VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[bonerland]

Actually no! It's not for simplicity's sake. EK only use these variables as the name suggests. For casual sex/dating EK used dating variable, example: ian_lena_dating and ian_lena_love when the character confesses love.

If the variable is ian_lena_love it means Ian is in love with Lena, similarly if lena_ian_love is used it means Lena is in love with Ian.
In Jess's case ian_jess_love is used.

Irony is the person who is vary to fall in love with someone is now straight up in love. Nice joke EK, nice joke!

#R.I.P_Writing

The dating tag is also used in the case of Lena and Seymore and Lena and Stan when neither had even so much as kissed her yet.

Even if that is the case, it's a hidden event flag, not Ian himself saying it like you claimed several times.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Pegging is reserved for Perry.
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Will Perry finally get lucky in the beach house?
What if the Perry-Holly route starts there,will her fans be mad?

 

[SearingFive]

Will Perry finally get lucky in the beach house?
What if the Perry-Holly route starts there,will her fans be mad?

Bruh, with no similarities between them it would be redundant to even start a relationship. Since it's EK; who knows, we might even get a throuple made for Perry .

 

[varpep]

Oh wow! I didn't know you could still mess with Cherry while still seeing Lena after the art Gallery. Anyone know the conditions to get this outcome?

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Edit: Nvm. Lena dumped me on the spot when I brought her up lol

 

[Lord Bradley]

I re-did my Loyal Ian x Cheating Lena official couple playthrough and here are some details for those interested:

- Ian should still only choose friendly options with other girls, no flirting and no dates!
- Ian chose all intelligent options unless it tries to start a route with other girl than Lena.
- Ian scolded Jeremy about some moral choices, like asking "What about Louise?" or denying more details about his adventures with Allison.
- Ian chose "beta" options like prefering cozy bar not nightclub and not liking nightclub music etc. (there is bipolar stat for Ian, if he is alpha or not)
- When it came to sex with Lena my Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options, this turned into Lena liking to tease Ian and dirty talk in similar fashion.

- Lena flirts with all guys, even being friendly with Stan (even tho it won't go anywhere, she does some light teasing which can be hot if you like that).
- Lena CAN actually sleep with Robert and Mike before becoming official with Ian (my Lena even invited Mike over Ian in one event where she went home being sad, maybe after she met Cherry at Ian's appartment). Just don't choose romantic options, let Robert know it's just sex and don't ask Mike to stay the night.
- Lena CAN heavily flirt with Jeremy, but she must REFUSE to wake up Jeremy when he stays the night at Louise's room.
- Lena can fool around with girls (tho it seems you can't with Louise on this route, there was no options for me)
- Lena chose all the "spoiled" options, like running away from homeless guy, prefering nightclub, and loving shopping etc.
- Lena DENIED Seymour offer (I simply want her to use Stalkfap)

Obviously a lot of flavor options in between, but basically my Ian is now loyal boyfriend who wants to worship Lena and helps her with Stalkfap and is leaning into open relationship with Lena. Lena actually cheated way earlier than last episode at club on Ian, even tho she cut things off with Robert and Mike. Lena fantasizes heavily about other guys later tho and her inner thoughts suggest she wants to have Ian as a nice cuddly boyfriend who lets her sleep around, isn't that beautiful Previously I had Ian be more assertive and then Lena cheat, but it feels like that relationship is heading towards breakup so I remade it with better chance to last in future. I realize this is not what many are into, but please don't drop 50 facepalms on my post I know some would like to know the possibilities of this route and this was my experience I recommend mod that let's you see paths and choice stats, good luck!

 

[SearingFive]

Oh wow! I didn't know you could still mess with Cherry while still seeing Lena after the art Gallery. Anyone know the conditions to get this outcome?

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• Don't help Perry with Cherry.
• Dating path, not the couple path for Ian/Lena.
• Be in love with Cherry.
• Don't break up with Lena when she returns from her parent's home.
• You need at least 8 charisma or 1 will point.

 

[SearingFive]

I re-did my Loyal Ian x Cheating Lena official couple playthrough and here are some details for those interested:

- Ian should still only choose friendly options with other girls, no flirting and no dates!
- Ian chose all intelligent options unless it tries to start a route with other girl than Lena.
- Ian scolded Jeremy about some moral choices, like asking "What about Louise?" or denying more details about his adventures with Allison.
- Ian chose "beta" options like prefering cozy bar not nightclub and not liking nightclub music etc. (there is bipolar stat for Ian, if he is alpha or not)
- When it came to sex with Lena my Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options, this turned into Lena liking to tease Ian and dirty talk in similar fashion.

- Lena flirts with all guys, even being friendly with Stan (even tho it won't go anywhere, she does some light teasing which can be hot if you like that).
- Lena CAN actually sleep with Robert and Mike before becoming official with Ian (my Lena even invited Mike over Ian in one event where she went home being sad, maybe after she met Cherry at Ian's appartment). Just don't choose romantic options, let Robert know it's just sex and don't ask Mike to stay the night.
- Lena CAN heavily flirt with Jeremy, but she must REFUSE to wake up Jeremy when he stays the night at Louise's room.
- Lena can fool around with girls (tho it seems you can't with Louise on this route, there was no options for me)
- Lena chose all the "spoiled" options, like running away from homeless guy, prefering nightclub, and loving shopping etc.
- Lena DENIED Seymour offer (I simply want her to use Stalkfap)

Obviously a lot of flavor options in between, but basically my Ian is now loyal boyfriend who wants to worship Lena and helps her with Stalkfap and is leaning into open relationship with Lena. Lena actually cheated way earlier than last episode at club on Ian, even tho she cut things off with Robert and Mike. Lena fantasizes heavily about other guys later tho and her inner thoughts suggest she wants to have Ian as a nice cuddly boyfriend who lets her sleep around, isn't that beautiful Previously I had Ian be more assertive and then Lena cheat, but it feels like that relationship is heading towards breakup so I remade it with better chance to last in future. I realize this is not what many are into, but please don't drop 50 facepalms on my post I know some would like to know the possibilities of this route and this was my experience I recommend mod that let's you see paths and choice stats, good luck!

It's a shy bf with an open flirty extrovert gf. It's a good path to have, maybe I'll do it in the future. But this path will slowly nudge you to cuckoldry. If you need a more brutal path try playing sexless Ian + cheating Lena. It's hilarious and so evil LMAO.
"My Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options" - Wait isn't this cuck path? with a face
"Ian is now a loyal boyfriend who wants to worship Lena". - If it's all about worshipping your mistress then let me introduce to you sexless Ian.

Sexless Cuck Ian
l "You're really enjoying this, you perv... Are you gonna cum between my feet? Do you wanna know why your cock is special to me?"
                                i "Yes... Yes! Tell me!"
                                l "Because yours is the only one I won't fuck."
                                i "Ahhhh!

brutal and hilarious.

 

[mommysboiii]

Will Perry finally get lucky in the beach house?
What if the Perry-Holly route starts there,will her fans be mad?

Bruh, with no similarities between them it would be redundant to even start a relationship. Since it's EK; who knows, we might even get a throuple made for Perry .

the asshole ian enjoyers probably lick their fingers first stealing emma and than holly from him and than not pay rent give perry a break

 

[mommysboiii]

Oh wow! I didn't know you could still mess with Cherry while still seeing Lena after the art Gallery. Anyone know the conditions to get this outcome?

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holly gigachad stats my ian always has low stats HOLLYYY

that ian is maxed out almost more than axel stats or the same

 

[Xupuzulla]

It's a shy bf with an open flirty extrovert gf. It's a good path to have, maybe I'll do it in the future. But this path will slowly nudge you to cuckoldry. If you need a more brutal path try playing sexless Ian + cheating Lena. It's hilarious and so evil LMAO.
"My Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options" - Wait isn't this cuck path? with a face

Sexless Cuck Ian
l "You're really enjoying this, you perv... Are you gonna cum between my feet? Do you wanna know why your cock is special to me?"
                                i "Yes... Yes! Tell me!"
                                l "Because yours is the only one I won't fuck."
                                i "Ahhhh!

brutal and hilarious.

The Ian sexless cuck route is unintentionally hilarious,so many funny moments

 

[Lord Bradley]

It's a shy bf with an open flirty extrovert gf. It's a good path to have, maybe I'll do it in the future. But this path will slowly nudge you to cuckoldry. If you need a more brutal path try playing sexless Ian + cheating Lena. It's hilarious and so evil LMAO.
"My Ian chose submissive and curious about Lena's past options" - Wait isn't this cuck path? with a face
"Ian is now a loyal boyfriend who wants to worship Lena". - If it's all about worshipping your mistress then let me introduce to you sexless Ian.

Sexless Cuck Ian
l "You're really enjoying this, you perv... Are you gonna cum between my feet? Do you wanna know why your cock is special to me?"
                                i "Yes... Yes! Tell me!"
                                l "Because yours is the only one I won't fuck."
                                i "Ahhhh!

brutal and hilarious.

Interesting... that's a bit too much for me personally. Ideally I would like Ian to stuff a nice foreign creampie deeper into Lena after a long day at work. I don't really aim to have Ian be abused and made fun of, just light teasing where both parties enjoy themselves. Will see how detailed these paths get in future, but thanks for info I was not aware it can go even deeper than what I already had haha.

 

[Slick Bean]

These games have porn tropes devoid of all porn. Porn is tedious 24/7 edging with picture start/stop photography done mid action where the actors and the actresses are sore by the third hour of their long work days ordeal. The BDSM in this game is supposed to come natural but nobody ever studies or goes to clubs or go work for BDSM establishments to actually learn the skill to be a dom, learn the skill to be a sub - otherwise we get these freakish scenes we have now, because in all porn there are many people directing the actors and the actresses through their ”ordeal”, there is no ”unscripted” hard violence in porn, there is slo-mo abuse that they rehearse tirelessly until it gives the impression, to the viewer, that some strong emotion is there. Remember - the pleasure from sex receptors are in the exact places on your body where sex is supposed to happen, not on your back, certainly not on your thigh or your neck or where have you.

Deb acts as a sub and is very vulnerable at the moment because she went through a breakup. Most of these games don't even depict a good Dom/Sub relationship realistically. It's either borderline torture or degen-level humiliation.

That's one of the worst attempts att a dom/sub interaction in any VN, the supposed dom comes off as just as much or more of a sub then the intended sub, terrible..

 

[| Vee |]

The dating tag is also used in the case of Lena and Seymore and Lena and Stan when neither had even so much as kissed her yet.

Even if that is the case, it's a hidden event flag, not Ian himself saying it like you claimed several times.

Than dating variable should be used, instead love variable is used for Jess.
As I said before dating variable is for casual theme and love variable is for potential relationship.

If Ian refused to be couple with Lena and tries to continue dating Lena and Ian opens up with Lena when she came back from her parents after Cherry's exhibition ("Open up" about Gillian(Chameleon) option) the that open is also marked as ian_lena_love and there is no expressing of love in that option but Ian chose to share a personal matter to Lena.
It is the same case with Jess but instead Ian admits to be give it a try with Jess.

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Even jess called this "weird".
I would bury this conversation here if you don't want to understand it, that's on you.

Seriously, what the hell is EK smoking at this point? SMH.
It makes no sense to make Ian in love with Jess without build especially when Ian is vary to fall in love with someone.
It just raises questions on EK's writing with all this Jess, Marcel, Jack. Is she still in writer's block?

Appeasing her patron's is one thing but this level of writing from EK...I simply don't know what to say.

 

[| Vee |]

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I believe it is bcz Male brain instinctively goes on to lean more on aggressive side and bcz males are visual and they only consumed it from... exactly, "porn". While, female are more emotional and imaginary that's why they give thoughts to even little details.

I think this can be a factor.

 

[| Vee |]

I ask this: Whom do you all here prefer to play? Ian or Lena? And for each as sub or dom?

Ian(or any Male MC) as dom.

 

[SearingFive]

I believe this entirely. In my view, it is because the sub can lose all inhibitions regarding what she envisions the dom to do while most doms cannot bring themselves to completely let loose due to an inner core of goodness. I would guess that gender may not be work at here; just the dom/sub roles.
The writer, if a female dom, should have written the MC as a female dom. Perhaps she felt the audience would be too narrow?
I ask this: Whom do you all here prefer to play? Ian or Lena? And for each as sub or dom?

Depends on the mood though. I wouldn't mind Ian being a good switch. Yes, there is no hardline in BDSM that a dom stays dom always hence we have a term called 'switch'. If I want to take it easy some days I switch. It's generally the sub's job to control the flow and set boundaries.
I prefer Ian but Lena as a dom is pretty hot too.

 

[Leongen43]

I believe it is bcz Male brain instinctively goes on to lean more on aggressive side and bcz males are visual and they only consumed it from... exactly, "porn". While, female are more emotional and imaginary that's why they give thoughts to even little details.

I think this can be a factor.

Say that in front of my wife and for protection I would stand a few meters away from you.
Seriously speaking, today gender does not have as much weight because women can be equal and in some cases more competitive than men and the same thing happens with tastes, each individual is a world to discover if you can.

 

[| Vee |]

While yes, men are more visually stimulated, and as such the writing probably takes a hit, but I don't think that's all there's to it in this case, I simply believe that male devs who produce fetish content are more likely to be of a sub variety.

Than a sub man could've written the Male MC as Female dom? no? See there is contradiction with your statement. But that also depends whether a sub dev is even capable of writing Male MC as Dom by keeping female dom in mind.

Say that in front of my wife and for protection I would stand a few meters away from you.
Seriously speaking, today gender does not have as much weight because women can be equal and in some cases more competitive than men and the same thing happens with tastes, each individual is a world to discover if you can.

The biology still stays the same. Yes, over the time you can condition ones mind and tastes but that requires finesse.

 

[GokutheG]

I ask this: Whom do you all here prefer to play? Ian or Lena? And for each as sub or dom?

Lena 100%. I like to play her as dominant (Louise) but l'm not opposed to her being submissive if there were any dominant women in the game.

The reason I like this dev's games is because the mc actually has agency in the game and is not just there to be abused by every guy in the world. High quality lady led games are rare especially if you enjoy the buildup leading up to the relationship. Eventho it's obvious that the dev's mcs leans towards guys it's nice that I can avoid sexual situations with them and focus on the other girl lis. (Even tho there are way less to pick from and fewer scenarios with them.)

 

[Andrea9999]

Depends on the mood though. I wouldn't mind Ian being a good switch. Yes, there is no hardline in BDSM that a dom stays dom always hence we have a term called 'switch'. If I want to take it easy some days I switch. It's generally the sub's job to control the flow and set boundaries.
I prefer Ian but Lena as a dom is pretty hot too.

I think you are making good sense. By now you know, I prefer Seymour's "brand" of dom with Lena as sub. However, because Ian cannot, in my view, be a convincing dom, I would like to see the scenario of loving, loyal, sub Ian to manipulative, cheating, dom Lena. I haven't done a game like that but LordBradley, |Vee|, and yourself have given me pointers to that end. (I have not yet tried it.) It would conflict, and therefore be separate, from a puppeteer Seymour with Lena and Ian as puppets that I hope EK will later provide. Axel's brand of dom to me is a bore since it lacks the erotic mental aspect.