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Corrected for you!
*Ivy toying with him for 12 chapters is already a feat on his own.*
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*Ivy toying with him for 12 chapters is already a feat on his own.*
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- Losing a faithful GF for a 10 secs BJ (man, what a loser). Ivy didn't even care for Jeremy's life, just wanted to spite and show Louise that her "BOYFRIEND" was a horndog.
- Yes, clearly the second choice and as an afterthought by a future bimbo.
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Python:
if ivy_jeremy == 2: v "..." v "You're both, but alright... I'll drive you home. Let's get going." j "Awesome!" elif ivy_jeremy == 1: v "..." v "Some other night, maybe." $ fjeremy = "n" else: v "You're delusional, that's what you are." $ fjeremy = "sad"
Agree with your last point, she is hard to get.
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That only will happen if the player is shitty friend to Louise, goes out of the way and not tell Louise about him, duh!.
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Damn, now even feeling a girl's body makes us gay.I don't care about Jeremy or Ivy but that choice definitely makes you gay
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Which Lena doesn't do by default. The default option is that she doesn't interfer.
Let's say Ian and Lena don't exist or don't live in Baluart. How would the plot normaly unfold? Wade would lose Cindy to Axel, Perry would stay shy and not make a move on Emma or Perry, Stan would be lonely, the cafe would be sold and so on. What is Jeremy doing on his own, without Ian and Lena helping or sabotaging him?
- Jeremy gets Alison.
- Jeremy gets blown by Ivy and her stance toward him is neutral.
The overall problem is that you drag him down on Stan and Perry level, when he isn't that bad. This doesn't mean he is on the other end of the spectrum and on Seymour/Axel level.
His performance overall is:
Seymour
Axel
Mike
Jeremy
Wade
Robert
Perry
Stan
Slightly above average.
Jeremy never cared about Louise being his girlfriend* but he did want to get it on with Ivy. I doubt he considers himself a loser for getting what he was after, if just for a moment, when it didn't cost him anything of real value (in his eyes)
*) if anything, he didn't want her to think she's his "girlfriend" but wouldn't tell her because he's in general averse to drama.
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Make your mind up...
If Lena is not there...they would never have gone back for that scene to happen in the first place and it's Lena's choices that lead to that scene.
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Also the fact that if Lena wasn't present, then Ivy would most likely have never found out about Louise and Jeremy would have scored with her.
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Dude, nobody is taking him to Stan's or Perry's level. We just pointed out that he is a horndog and thinking 10secs BJ is an achievement when getting used as a pawn in someone's game is a big W. Is disheartening.
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With neutral I refer to her in chapter 12. In chapter 7/8 she was all over Jeremy.
The scene happens without Lena.
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Exactly! none of them are default. It's player's choice if he wants to be a bad friend and not tell her or be a good friend. It's path with different things happening on them. Nothing is default in this choice.
That JeremyxIvy scene wouldn't happen if Lena is not there in first place. If MC's are not there than the Protagonist/s will be differ and still it will depend on player's choice.
But stick to this ORS. We are here discussing what is happening now or happened as of now, not what will happen.
And where did I compare him with Stan or Perry? Do mention pls. I would be happy to say sorry right now if I did say that but no I'm not saying sorry for stating the truth whether that hurts your feeling or not when I state the facts and nowhere I said that he is on Perry's or Stan's level He scored Louise so, he is clearly better than them at the very least.
This performance rating of yours is YOUR opinion as they vary from person to person. You putting him above Wade which I don't agree even if Wade is a slob now.
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-> https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-ch-12-prologue-full-eva-kiss.48813/post-12939711
https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-ch-12-prologue-full-eva-kiss.48813/post-12940742
If Jeremy, an average player is compared to an social awkward like Mr. Bean, the tendency is clear.
It does. Jeremy, Ivy and Louise do the bet on their own and Louise ends the relationship after Ivy blows Jeremy.
We can ascertain through various criterias which character is better than the other. It can urn out to be an opinion and a fact. I suppose you could have the opinion that Stan is a gigachad and Axel a virgin, but you would have nothing to back that up and get contradicted immediatly. My ratings should be close to what Eva and society as a whole agrees to be a standard.
Jeremy vs Wade is a close one. Currently, Wade can't control his temper and is unwilling to even go out. Jeremy is smarter than this and also able to give a girl a good time, he is partying, active and wants to meet people. Its far more valuable than what Wade brings. Jeremy is fitter, he has a job vs Wade being unemployed. These are criterias and not mere opinions.
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It doesn't if Lena tells Louise about his desperate attempts. You need that choice for it to get work.
If you believe so. Rating is subjective and I won't rate Jeremy higher for his character among other things.
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Which would be player interference. The default option is that Lena is silent. Telling Louise also requires points, so it can't be a default option. And again, we can ignore Lenas interference and consider what Jeremy, Louise and Ivy are doing on their own to properly judge them.
4>3 isn't really a matter of believe or opinion. If you take everything for subjective and don't formulate and use criterias to form something that we can all agree on and apply in many areas, then you have no rules, no standards, nothing to rank either high or low. Nothing would matter.
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Than let me shed some light on why I rate Jeremy lower than Wade bcz of his character.
Jeremy doesn't stop going after Alison even when Ian directly tells him not to go after Alison in front of Wade and Perry (What a bro he is
!). Dude is fucking his best friend's girlfriend (What a bro he is!). How he handled Louise matter. These are the main reasons I can't rate him higher than Wade. Wade is trying to do something for himself(not the best thing) at least he ain't two-faced like Jeremy.What is character development of Jeremy again?
"Jeremy ain't friend of no one"! Period
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- Aug 1, 2022
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You all are wrong btw.
Is not thanks to the player that Jeremy gets a "10 seconds" blowjob.
Is thanks to the player Ivy the viper gets to hunt her prey.
Look at her face
I think we can all agree the real winner of that "party" is Ivy not matter your choices.
Is not thanks to the player that Jeremy gets a "10 seconds" blowjob.
Is thanks to the player Ivy the viper gets to hunt her prey.
Look at her face
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- Feb 18, 2018
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In terms of personality, I agree. In that case, I would make an entirely different ranking. Seymour and Axel at the bottom, obviously.Than let me shed some light on why I rate Jeremy lower than Wade bcz of his character.
Jeremy doesn't stop going after Alison even when Ian directly tells him not to go after Alison in front of Wade and Perry (What a bro he is
I gathered most recent criticism towards him were about his allegedly poor sexual performance and how he fails to get women.
Not sure if serious, but this scene happens by default off-screen. Its only avoided if Lena decides to interfer in Louise private life and tell her about Jeremy.
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He just need Kegels
! I don't consider this on his rating as this is not what he can control, it's natural some men don't last longer but it will be a bonus if a character is lasting longer. Again it is subjective on which criteria's you're rating on them and they may differ person to person. Some will give more weight to one thing, personality, etc.
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Even though I'm not into her myself I'd actually respect the hell out of Eva if she decided to make the #1 Cockbait character only be available for the female main character.Furthermore, we'll get a curve ball from EK that Ivy is only for Lena.
You're sort of opening up a whole other (but also much more interesting) discussion here about what then constitutes "player interference"
For example why did you pick for Lena to not tell Louise that her "boyfriend" is cheating on her? I'd argue that picking the less friendly option of keeping it secret for no reason is player interference rather than making the choice a real friend would make.
I'd also argue that he gets Alison only if Ian deliberately makes the choices that disfavour him. If we say that "player interference" is getting the less likely outcome, based on what the game tells us about the characters, then Jeremy getting with Alison has to be seen as player interference, given how directly she shows her interest in Ian. Why is it "player interference" to make the choices that gets "main character" with "hot girl," when you could argue that, that's the task the game sets before you at its most basic?
Your last example I won't really judge since we as the player are given the very unsubtle option of deciding if and by whose word Jeremy gets with Ivy. Since I don't really find Ivy to be a prize worth pursuing myself I guess we could explore it for arguments own sake:
Why is neutral seen as "least interference" in this case? If we went by my argumentation that "player interference" is making choices that either disfavour the main character directly or contradicts their presented personalities, like telling Louise that Jeremy is cheating on her makes sense because she's Lena's friend, would Lena as this same friend also not disapprove of this same guy and therefore tell her other friend off for wasting her time on him?
That specific choice though would probably not matter anyway as if you play Ian as a generally good bloke (which is what I think the game tries to portray) he'd probably be a good wingman, unless he himself of course specifically wants Ivy and doesn't want anyone else with her. I think I saw someone else on here comment that if Ian is positive about Jeremy then what Lena has to say doesn't change Ivy's decision, correct me if I'm wrong here.
Can you explain why you see this as "interference" or why it shouldn't be the default? It's a choice so like I wrote above you could argue that either is the more given choice.
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