timoleont

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Dear comrade. And even though I am a convinced stay-at-home person and only my second wife convinced me for the first time, after the army, to move more than a hundred kilometers away from my hometown, but I discovered sex for myself eight years before Eva started releasing her first game. By the first chapter of OUR, I had under three dozen partners in a variety of combinations and poses, my first marriage and a child. I've been playing OUR since the very first chapter. Chapters up to 10 I was not too lazy to go through it with each update. But now I'm just tired). For some reason, my saves fly off every time, and even if you just drop everything without reading it, it will be two or three hours).
 
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lucadiadis

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Dear comrade. And even though I am a convinced stay-at-home person and only my second wife convinced me for the first time, after the army, to move more than a hundred kilometers away from my hometown, but I discovered sex for myself eight years before Eva started releasing her first game. By the first chapter of OUR, I had under three dozen partners in a variety of combinations and poses, my first marriage and a child. I've been playing OUR since the very first chapter. Chapters up to 10 I was not too lazy to go through it with each update. But now I'm just tired). For some reason, my saves fly off every time, and even if you just drop everything without reading it, it will be two or three hours).
Fair enough comrade.
 
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Akabakka

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So many western VN seem to fall into the trap of wanting to do tons of branches and paths and a bunch of LI which leads to each update taking longer and longer and feeling shorter and shorter even if there is still a lot of unique content if you follow every path, but the whole thing feels unsatisfying for everyone. Having both Ian and Lena to follow already creates a lot of branching by itself, but giving them so many options and different types of relationships to have with each other and with others creates a mountain of work that you can't possibly do in any reasonable timeframe. You end up spending years waiting for the story to advance much and could spend literally 1 or 2 maybe even 3 entire years waiting for meaningful content with your chosen LI. Authors really need to reign in the scope. Evakiss tried to make so many people happy, but I think more and more it leaves no one happy.
While i easily prefer their art-style , and overall the Japanese culture , and Anime subculture ... i just feel that most Japanese erotic VN are just worse . Their update schedule is likely shorter , release pace quicker , but it's not necessarily a matter of western games having too many choices and options . You can pick a few Japanese VN requiring built in timecharts , to keep track of choices and events . However they are drowning you instead in repetitive walls of text , while hiding that they have very few adult content , and some even got very little scene variations . And then the bulk of the regular JP VN are incredibly short . Some western VN you could skip the whole game and unlock the gallery , and still find stuff to enjoy ... (even if i find the idea ludicrous) . It's not rare to have a tiny gallery of pics and animated scenes , if you try the same in a Japanese VN . Some had barely one page worth .

Anyway the point is , it would be weird if , they took as long to develop , as they are usually shorter games with little content . And it would expose recycling experts like Atelier Sakura . I don't think the western VN genre need to take cues from them , outside of using occasionally their artstyle and themes . You can basically find the equivalent of a lot of JP VN , pace and content wise , in titles from western studios like Neverluckystudios (couple , a knight tales , triangle) , or short repetitive adventures from the likes of Dumb Koala Games
 
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"Too late to turn back now" came many chapters ago also. Scaling paths down now at the degree suggested would leave many more unhappy & years of work wasted with so many threads ending in an unsatisfying manner. Eva's making enough for a comfortable life & with some pressure off from chapters broken into 3's, I see her working on this till some satisfying-enough conclusions. Though I don't think it'll go the 20 chapters originally suggested. We'd all be geriatric. Best would be to wrap up in four, maybe five more chapters tops & move onto something much more simple. That's already a very long remaining development time.

Current situation does strike me like George RR Martin if he made fap games. "Goddammit, George. I've been waiting on this nut for 13 years."
At least we're getting the nuts with Eva, GRRM will leave me blue balled until the end of times :cry:
 

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Cheating path, what I did for Lena is to have sex with Jack and that was enough to trigger this scene. I also did a run where both Ian and Lena cheated on each other but then decided to commit to each other in ch 12, you'll still get this scene. For Ian to cheat I just did bimbo Alison after the painting gallery scene.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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I'm not an heroic fantasy lad, I'm more into classic literature, BUT each of Martin's update is like a hundred billion times more substantial than EK's updates, all paths included and that's a conservative estimation.
She's pulled off a masterstroke every now & again :KEK: , but in no way am I comparing EvaKiss' writing to George RR Martin's. I'm just joking about wait-time.
 

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I want to know who Mike's girlfriend is and who Gillian's boyfriend is. If one day Ian meets Gillian's boyfriend, I hope there will be a street fight
Getting into a fight with his ex's new boyfriend would make Ian be as pathetic as Alison's old boyfriend and just as deranged as Axel.

It's best for Lena and Ian to completely get over their exes.
 

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Lena/Ian relationship can blow up in like three possible ways, Ian/Holly gets its resolution one way or another, and Lena/Ian/Holly can become an actual thing. I wonder what's your idea of escalation if these are "holiday and chilling" in your eyes..?
By "holiday and chilling" I meant in the context that I don't think 4 more chapters is anywhere near enough to close out ORS because in the chapter 12 we've got, plot lines just started escalating. The escalation being the things you've wrote.
There are many other plot lines that are still ramping up and hasn't explode yet. 4 chapters of ramping up, climax and cooling off sounds like a rush to me.

I think 1 to 9 in general was good. But after 9, i think 10 to 12 the pacing is pretty slow. I think to wrap up everything, ORS at least would need at least to Ch 17 or 18, and that is if Ch 13 pick up the pace. So really, maybe even Ch 20 is more realistic
 
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