Ravnen

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Well that's the bad thing about having two protagonists, for my part I'm not complaining about either of them, but I like to play more as Ian, it's more fun for me.:HideThePain:
I dont mind two MCs. I mean it would be better if we were to pick from the start if we wanted to play as either. But thats that. But letting one of em feel left out, is kinda a bummer..
 

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is chapter 13 going to be all about Ian again??
Chapter 13 will seemingly be an all Lena chapter. What jmshay512 was likely hinting at is that there are going to be players upset that chapter 13 will not include an Ian PoV.

Nobody was really expecting chapter 12 to be all Ian, until Eva just kind of said that Lena wasn't going to have a playable part while she was at the beach house. In retrospect it was probably the easiest solution to Lena potentially having to leave early, as it will cut down on scenes EK needs to work on. But it still is going to leave the question of what exactly will Lena be doing if she isn't associated with Seymour.
 

Jplays512

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is chapter 13 going to be all about Ian again??
No sorry it is Lena but it’s going to be focused on a LI a lot of people are not a fan of so limited content/ content people are going to want to skip through. (At least to start maybe later in the chapter it will open up more)
 
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thelostone69

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Is Cindy gonna get fucked by Alex now if you're not on her path? can anyone tell me the recent update spoiler..i don't mind hearing some
 

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Is Cindy gonna get fucked by Alex now if you're not on her path? can anyone tell me the recent update spoiler..i don't mind hearing some
The new "scene" is just Axel posting Cindy's modelling pics on social media. The pics are more artistic nudes, but the last that appears on most routes is a zoomed in ass pic of Cindy with Axels hand firmly grasping it. This upsets Wade obviously, but also Ian on the Cindy path and Lena on the Axel path. Ian can prevent the pic from happening if in earlier chapter he told Cindy that she was playing with him.
 

thelostone69

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I didnt understand the last part. what do u mean by "she was playing with him?''
is it related Ian's confession to Cindy or something else?
 

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I didnt understand the last part. what do u mean by "she was playing with him?''
is it related Ian's confession to Cindy or something else?
In their last scene together, before the beach event where he gives the necklace, Ian feels she is not being upfront with him and taking too long to break up with Wade. There are 3 options he can choose to say. One is saying he trusts her fully, the other is saying that she is playing with him, and the last is saying she has the hots for Axel.

The best option to prevent Axel from posting Cindy's ass pic with his hand on top is telling Cindy that she is playing with him. This makes Ian the one to expect Cindy to do her part in the relationship and at the beach it makes Cindy text Ian, instead of the other way around. It also makes Cindy seemingly not let Axel take that picture. Basically it makes Cindy respect Ian and his boundaries way more than just when Ian says he trusts her.
 

thelostone69

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Does that mean she is playing with him for real? not ready to break up with Wade and commit to Ian?
I wouldn't touch this Avn until I get a full romantic path with Cindy
 

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Does that mean she is playing with him for real? not ready to break up with Wade and commit to Ian?
I wouldn't touch this Avn until I get a full romantic path with Cindy
Depends on your definitions. She seems scared to break up with Wade, has guilt over what she's doing, and Axel does blatantly try flirting with her. Telling her that she is playing with Ian is more of a wake up call to her that she is supposed to take the relationship with Ian more seriously. Wade and Cindy do break up and at the beach Cindy seems more committed to Ian after she has that wake up call, though she's not present at the beach.

Next few releases will be Lena centered, so I doubt you'll see much Ian x Cindy content. But once the focus goes back I think it will be some time after the break up and Ian and Cindy might agree to finally go public.

The romantic path is already there, it's just currently facing challenges due to the circumstances.
 

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Depends on your definitions. She seems scared to break up with Wade, has guilt over what she's doing, and Axel does blatantly try flirting with her. Telling her that she is playing with Ian is more of a wake up call to her that she is supposed to take the relationship with Ian more seriously. Wade and Cindy do break up and at the beach Cindy seems more committed to Ian after she has that wake up call, though she's not present at the beach.

Next few releases will be Lena centered, so I doubt you'll see much Ian x Cindy content. But once the focus goes back I think it will be some time after the break up and Ian and Cindy might agree to finally go public.

The romantic path is already there, it's just currently facing challenges due to the circumstances.
A lot is left to interpretation and open to imagination. You say she seems more commited to Ian after that wake up call, but it's also the only path where there is no sexting and at the same time it's also the only path where Cindy messages Ian when he didn't message her before. It's also open to discussion whether the stuff with Axel's hand in Cindy's ass happens also in that path or if Cindy and Wade's relationship is not awful and is just not publically revealed. It's not even clear what that photo with Axel means or if it means the same in all circunstances where it happens.

Regarding going public with their relationship, I don't think it will happen until endgame unless they are forced out before. They could privately commit to their relationship and clear up things but it would be too soon after the break up with Wade to go public with their friends without arousing suspicion. Having to keep it on the low adds tension and offers easy drama with possibly being discovered by any of the cast. It seems too useful for Eva to let it go before the end.
 
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Tomamax19

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Hello, do you know if there is a lot of game left or if there is less left until the end?
I hope to be able to play it when it's finally complete.
 

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I bet Cindy fucking Axel is gonna be inevitable in the game regardless of your choices, something like Mike/Ivy situation and both are morally dark routes, so kinda similar.
I guess choices will only determine how it'll impact Ian(Dating or not) and how he knows and deals with it (IF) and the only way to avoid getting cucked will be to avoid the route altogether, cause there's no way Ian is coming out of it unscathed after betraying his bestfriend. Plus from what I've seen so far after playing Gggb and ORS, Eva doesn't hesitate in giving big L to her MCs sometimes.
 
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Hello, do you know if there is a lot of game left or if there is less left until the end?
I hope to be able to play it when it's finally complete.
If I remember correctly, originally the game was supposed to have something like 20 chapters, however a bit in I think Eva said she could fit it all in about 16, so if that holds true (and I'm not misremembering) then there should be something like 4 chapters remaining
 

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I bet Cindy fucking Axel is gonna be inevitable in the game regardless of your choices, something like Mike/Ivy situation and both are morally dark routes, so kinda similar.
I guess choices will only determine how it'll impact Ian(Dating or not) and how he knows and deals with it (IF) and the only way to avoid getting cucked will be to avoid the route altogether, cause there's no way Ian is coming out of it unscathed after betraying his bestfriend. Plus from what I've seen so far after playing Gggb and ORS, Eva doesn't hesitate in giving big L to her MCs sometimes.
Difference is Cindy actually shows romantic interest in Ian. Mike it's entirely one-sided. Lena never even goes on a date with Mike and expect him to reciprocate her feelings. Cindy actually shows romantic interest in Ian, goes on a dates with him, and expects him not to sleep around.

If Cindy was fucking Axel regardless of her relationship with Ian it would be different from Mike and contradict her prior behavior. Mike has been upfront about being a fuckboy from the start.
 

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A lot is left to interpretation and open to imagination. You say she seems more commited to Ian after that wake up call, but it's also the only path where there is no sexting and at the same time it's also the only path where Cindy messages Ian when he didn't message her before. It's also open to discussion whether the stuff with Axel's hand in Cindy's ass happens also in that path or if Cindy and Wade's relationship is not awful and is just not publically revealed. It's not even clear what that photo with Axel means or if it means the same in all circunstances where it happens.

Regarding going public with their relationship, I don't think it will happen until endgame unless they are forced out before. They could privately commit to their relationship and clear up things but it would be too soon after the break up with Wade to go public with their friends without arousing suspicion. Having to keep it on the low adds tension and offers easy drama with possibly being discovered by any of the cast. It seems too useful for Eva to let it go before the end.
The sexting not happening is indicative of how both parties are reevaluating how to proceed on their relationship. Cindy wants to appeal to Ian and make him happy, seen by her initiating the texts and sending a nude. Ian expects Cindy to commit to him and doesn't want to indulge Cindy until their relationship is on a stronger foundation, observe how he doesn't initiate the actual sexting like he does when he thinks everything is sunshine and rainbows on the other Cindy paths. Cindy because she is clearly thinking more about Ian and their relationship does not post the ass pic she posts in other paths.
 

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Difference is Cindy actually shows romantic interest in Ian. Mike it's entirely one-sided. Lena never even goes on a date with Mike and expect him to reciprocate her feelings. Cindy actually shows romantic interest in Ian, goes on a dates with him, and expects him not to sleep around.

If Cindy was fucking Axel regardless of her relationship with Ian it would be different from Mike and contradict her prior behavior. Mike has been upfront about being a fuckboy from the start.
Reason why I said something like Mike/Ivy situation and not exactly and why Cindy having romantic interest in Ian would even matter here? As if people in love or serious relationships never cheat? She was in long term relationship with Wade yet it didn't stop her from cheating on him with Ian his best friend, so why would it stop her doing same to Ian with Axel?
Not to forget Axel is considered to be a master manipulator, so even if she doesn't intend to cheat, Axel can very well manipulate her and by looking at her conversation and response she gives when Lena warns her, Cindy doesn't seem very bright in that regard.
 
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Socrambus

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Difference is Cindy actually shows romantic interest in Ian. Mike it's entirely one-sided. Lena never even goes on a date with Mike and expect him to reciprocate her feelings. Cindy actually shows romantic interest in Ian, goes on a dates with him, and expects him not to sleep around.

If Cindy was fucking Axel regardless of her relationship with Ian it would be different from Mike and contradict her prior behavior. Mike has been upfront about being a fuckboy from the start.
What do you mean Cindy goes on dates with Ian?, the closest thing to a date would be the museum and that's before they enter into a romantic/sexual relationship. All the other scenes happen at their homes if I'm not misremembering. Also, Cindy doesn't show a clear romantic interest in Ian, that's the issue in that path, she's not being straight with him and thus the "You're playing with me" arguement. Although is true that she's more posessive of Ian than Mike of Lena.

And regarding Mike being upfront about being a fuckboy:

Python:
    l "If she was that important to you, you wouldn't be here tonight, don't you think?"
    $ fmike = "sad"
    mk "It's not like that..."
    l "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that, it's just..."
    "I was frustrated, but didn't want to admit it to him."
    "Mike looked at me in silence for a second before sighing and sitting on the bed next to me."
    $ fmike = "n"
    mk "You probably think I do this all the time, but I don't. Not since I am with her..."
    mk "You're the only other girl I've slept with since I started dating her."
    "I wasn't sure how that made me feel."
    l "She must be pretty special."
    mk "She is. But so are you."
    mk "I mean... It's not like we've had that much time to get to know each other, but it's easy to see..."
    mk "There aren't many girls like you, Lena. You're off the charts in so many ways."
    $ flena = "smile"
    "Now, that was something I liked hearing."
    l "You really think so?"
    mk "I wouldn't be here otherwise, wouldn't I? You're the hottest girl I've ever met. You're not only hot, but you're also beautiful, and you have charm, too much, even."
    mk "And well, being noticed by a girl like you... I just couldn't say no to you, even if I wanted to."
    l "I'm glad you didn't... At first, I was afraid you'd ignore me, but I'm happy a guy like you noticed me, too."
    $ fmike = "smile"
    mk "There was no way I couldn't notice you, you know that. When I saw you with Louise, I thought she could be Jeremy's girlfriend, so I used her as an excuse to talk to you."
    l "Oh, so that's the real reason you said hi?"
    $ fmike = "happy"
    mk "Yeah, well... You won't blame me now, will you?"
    $ flena = "happy"
    l "Not at all."
    $ fmike = "smile"
    mk "So there you have it. If I had met you a year ago, well... Things might've been different, who knows."
Which we all know it was bullshit but it's not exactly like Lena's expectations come from nowhere and is all in her head. I'm not saying that Cindy and Mike paths are identical, but there are enough similarities to at least suspect "cheating"might also happen on Cindy's path no matter what.

The sexting not happening is indicative of how both parties are reevaluating how to proceed on their relationship. Cindy wants to appeal to Ian and make him happy, seen by her initiating the texts and sending a nude. Ian expects Cindy to commit to him and doesn't want to indulge Cindy until their relationship is on a stronger foundation, observe how he doesn't initiate the actual sexting like he does when he thinks everything is sunshine and rainbows on the other Cindy paths. Cindy because she is clearly thinking more about Ian and their relationship does not post the ass pic she posts in other paths.
Yes, but ass pic happens if Ian and Cindy are in a loving relationship and Ian chooses to trust her instead of calling her out. That's what makes things unclear about the meaning of the ass pic being the same in that case as in Ian just fucking Cindy casually. And also it's not impossible she would tell Axel not to post the pic but it happens all the same without being made public when it's not published.
 
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