It's much worse when a woman do it, because another woman don't expect that one of her own can do something like that. Women has always taught that in a patriarchal world where men dominate, only women have one another for support and can protect each other. So, when a woman break that trust, it's much worse coming from her, because that's expected from a man.
People were grasping at the same straws when Holly went with Mark and blew him in the car. "Oh no, poor sweet Holly is too pure and would never do that on her own. Look, Ivy gave her a drink at the club, she must've put drugs in it!" Give it a chapter or two of Holly fucking around, and no one thinks Holly is "too pure for a hookup" and must be getting drugged to act like that, or bat an eye when she sneaks into Ian's room to fuck him or blows a co-worker.
Nah, Lena fucks Billy and Ivy remains a virgin.Is going to be funny when in the next update even Billy taps that Ivy ass before Ian
So are John and Clark 250€ patreons that got in the game and are allowed to fuck Lena and Holly as a reward?It's totally on EK then. Imagine allowing any degenerate real life Stan to be part of the creative process.
I agree with you on most part but I don't think Ivy needs a reason to be who she is, It's evident to me that she simply enjoys manipulating people in fact i'm glad she's like that because it makes things more interesting and creates more drama.
She could also be just drunk on cocks.
Except this time it is true. Just as I posted in the beginning, Lena said, while watching holly's clips, that "Holly had a strange expression, dazed, with dilated pupils and flushed cheeks." and if Lena's wit is high enough (wits>7), she also added "It felt like she was under the influence of something, or at least that's how it seemed to me..."
Funnily enough the members on her discord does call us whiner's and talks about how great of an update it was .I'll bet the conversation over on Eva's Discord is just about the exact opposite of ours. "Eva, you're awesome, go Stanny go, I love him so much and he finally scored! Best update ever!" Also it's hilarious to me that during and after the sex, there's nothing from Stan about "offering his sword" and all his weird clingy love talk, he's just completely exhausted.
Let's say that's true. But why manipulate people? Why does she behave like that? What led to this? We need a personal background. If we have Ivy villian arc, then why not write her as a controversial character, and not boringly bad, just because.
An introverted and very weak willed Holly is peer pressured into doing drugs. There is a power disparity here. It's pretty coercive compared to homegirls passing each other drugs. But whether it be drugs or cocks that she is high on, Ivy and Lena are real fucked up people in this route, for real lol. Because let's face it, Eva took the dive into the corruption spiral. It's no longer a nuanced look of perhaps a shy girl breaking out of her shell with some sex positive message from her close friends. It's two horrible sluts corrupting a girl who had a bright future ahead of her.
I know there's that line but like i said, it could be just as well emotional high from sucking bunch of cocks at a glory hole. Something that's a bit of a trope. Flushed checks, dilated pupils and dazed expression are common symptoms of basic, high arousal, too. Remember Lena's "crazy eyes" people are making fun of in this thread? It's similar thing.
Eva made a post saying that she would never stray from the original plan for this game. Yet it really does seem like she's just following her top patreons wishes and polls.
"I really hope that Holly went and blew seven strangers on her own, this is just girls having fun, unless her agency was compromised by the influence of drugs, that's yucky."
Of course is true,you literally have to turn off your brain and look to the other side in that scene to no understand what is happening.
You don't need to feel bad about defending Eva back then because you had every reason to, the only issue we felt frustrated by was the long wait between updates.
I feel like whole episodes would have been better despite the long wait.
What's confusing? Doing something on your own volition and doing something that's caused by influence/coercion/blackmail etc. is different."I really hope that Holly went and blew seven strangers on her own, this is just girls having fun, unless her agency was compromised by the influence of drugs, that's yucky."
The difference is that one puts all the blame in poor Holly while the other puts the blame on the real villain of ORS:Ivy fucking Feynman
