VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

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manscout

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ffive said:
Why, both sound like perfectly good fun times to me. :whistle::coffee:

What makes you think that the pictures were shared without Holly's consent?


"Corrupting" is such bullshit concept i don't think i can roll my eyes hard enough at it. :cautious:

Ivy is just teaching Holly how to have fun, in a way that Ivy herself views as fun and supposedly partakes regularly. It's not like Holly is 12 and can't choose not to hang out with Ivy, if she didn't like what Ivy lets her experience. I hardly think this makes Ivy in any way an asshole, or a bad influence, unless we're going to claim that being sexually open and having fun is something bad that no girl should have her hand in? It can be a pretty tall claim when in the meantime player-driven Lena potentially sucks all the dicks and fucks everything that moves.
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Pray tell how a lightweight like Holly would give informed consent while under the influence of party drugs? Also c'mon, it is plain obvious that Ivy sends private stuff to Lena without consulting with Holly. You really think she was like "Okay Mark you can take a picture of me sucking you off and then send that picture to Ivy and it is okay for her to then send it to Lena :)"

And no, the problem with Ivy is that she is very single-minded and thinks she knows what's best for everyone and never listens to how other people feel. It is very clear in any playthroughs where Lena is not going along with Ivy's advice regarding stalkfap or working for Billy, she repeatedly brings it up, flaunts how much money she is making, and acts condescending when Lena refuses to do the same as her for her own reasons.

Again I don't think Ivy is a villain or trying to harm Holly, but her idea of being friendly is to insist on other people doing things her way and going along with what her idea of fun is, and anyone that disagrees is either foolish or an inexperienced prude. That kind of attitude is what makes her a bit of an asshole.
 
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Hmm playing the update, it's kinda disappointing that for Lena who broke up with Ian in Ch.12 and has lena_go_holly at 5 there's apparently no way to get together with Holly. They just briefly mention the breakup and that's basically it, the visit is over.

PilotLara sorry to bother you, because it's technically not a bug, but is there a chance you could mention this idea to EK? Have a path on Saturday during Holly's visit, for Lena with v12_ian_lena_breakup and lena_go_holly at 5, to bring up their feelings for each other, with option to start dating and maybe linking to the sex scene they can have there? For Lena who has lena_axel_fuck active this could be good moment to spend willpoint to decide to end things with Axel in order to be with Holly, too. Well, just a thought. :whistle:

edit: found a bug while at it: on the throuple route, after the # HOLLY TRINITY sex scene ends, the game is likely to directly jump into # IAN DATE SECOND CHANCE because the conditions for it are fullfilled:
Python: 
    if v13_lena_ian_date == False and ian_lena_dating and ian_lena_crisis != "forgive":
the check should exclude cases where holly_trinity == 2
 
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Xupuzulla said:
I just replayed the scene,if you make Lena avoid to learn about the graduation no one finds out about Ivy crimeso_O
I hate Ivy so much is UNREAL!:mad:



Feynman is Ivy last name:KEK:
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Everyone needs an Ivy in their life.

Pushes you to enjoy what you find.

Still your choice, but more choices if you expand your horizon.

To be serious for just one moment, please: I credit EvaKiss for all these interactions (creating a deep social game), people coming together (no, not on each other, not meant that way), it is a shared experience. I am happy we can discuss and are invested in their game.
 
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boobthief said:
Everyone needs an Ivy in their life.

Pushes you to enjoy what you find.

Still your choice, but more choices if you expand your horizon.

To be serious for just one moment, please: I credit EvaKiss for all these interactions (creating a deep social game), people coming together (no, not on each other, not meant that way), it is a shared experience. I am happy we can discuss and are invested in their game.
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Im not happy,next update is Ivy central,more crimes from her,more backstabbing,more drugs,MORE EVIL!:mad:
Im going to laugh my ass off when Billy fucks that ass before Ian through:KEK:
 
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ffive

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manscout said:
Pray tell how a lightweight like Holly would give informed consent while under the influence of party drugs?
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You are presuming the suggestion was made after Holly was made to take the drugs, when it's perfectly possible it was the other way around -- Holly could've agreed to try the glory hole experience, and then agreed that taking some molly could make it even more fun.

Also c'mon, it is plain obvious that Ivy sends private stuff to Lena without consulting with Holly. You really think she was like "Okay Mark you can take a picture of me sucking you off and then send that picture to Ivy and it is okay for her to then send it to Lena :)"
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Sure, why not. (about Ivy sending the pictures to Lena, Mark is a questionable case but then that's Mark, not Ivy) You think that Holly is somehow naive enough to think that Ivy isn't telling and showing Lena what Holly has been up to, where the three of them have potentially fucked together in public shower? Or that Ivy would be hiding that from Holly, when it's pretty reasonable to think at this point Holly wouldn't give a fuck about Lena seeing those pictures?

And no, the problem with Ivy is that she is very single-minded and thinks she knows what's best for everyone and never listens to how other people feel.
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That's hardly a problem, given those people are perfectly capable of not going along with Ivy's suggestions. Yes, Ivy is one of these people who think they have everything figured out and their way is best, but then this is something that can be said about many characters in the game. Emma, Cindy, Alison, Minerva, Perry, Jeremy, heck even Robert, and of course people like Axel and Seymour. None of them are good at taking other people's view into account or change their minds about things. And then there's of course player driven characters, with the player thinking they know best and not caring how the NPCs might "feel" about it. :whistle:

Again I don't think Ivy is a villain or trying to harm Holly, but her idea of being friendly is to insist on other people doing things her way and going along with what her idea of fun is, and anyone that disagrees is either foolish or an inexperienced prude. That kind of attitude is what makes her a bit of an asshole.
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To be fair, she is not wrong in that assessment :sneaky:

And clearly, she's also not wrong in how things she offers Holly are something Holly actually enjoys, otherwise she'd hardly change her behavior the way she did, nor would she keep hanging out with Ivy.
 
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Xupuzulla said:
Feynman is Ivy last name
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In a stunning turn of events, the Scandinavian did what you would expect from a Scandinavian, he uncovered another Jewish conspiracy in the place where we least expected it. Ivy is a Mossad sleeper agent. Run an early life check on her, we're gonna pin this Zionist whore for her crimes against the Aryan race.

Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.
 
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ffive

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Ok, done with the play through. I kinda feel bad for EK: size-wise this update is nearly 3x the size of the one with Seymour... and meantime my game lasted something like 5 whole minutes, because my Lena sticked mostly with Ian and then broke up in Ch.12, so it was quite literally, "come from Rome, have 5 sentences exchange with Holly, drive away with Ivy to Billy's photoshoot" :hidethepain:
 
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Puggy Aiden said:
Eva made a post saying that she would never stray from the original plan for this game. Yet it really does seem like she's just following her top patreons wishes and polls.
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Wait, who is John and Clark? Are those the randoms who show up during the bartending night at the club?

Do they really get to fuck Lena/Ivy lmao? That's so stupid.

Giving the top incels/patrons an appearance/cameo in the game seems okay, if its only 2-3 random characters.
But bringing them into the story and letting them fuck the FMCs is just plain stupid. Can't even be counted as fanservice.
 
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metagrossrj said:
People said that EvaKiss doesn't really follow the polls, but ... eh... I doubt it. So you may be right
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If Eva actually followed patreon polls and demands for making her game like these people claim to, we'd be having BBC gangbangs, Arthur and Ed going town on all female cast, Ivy with a male cast and Lena cheating on Ian with Jeremy by now, not to forget Ian would've been dead already but considering we don't have any of it till now I doubt it.
These polls are just for patreon engagement.
 
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