Leongen43

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Do you really think that Wade would immediately fuck his friend's girlfriend as soon as she offered, literally next door to his friend's room, despite being in relationship himself?

Lena tells Ian after she returns that she has talked with Wade about possible threesome, and that Wade said he would be up for it if he was single. There's little reason to think she'd be lying -- if Ian is on cuck path then Lena would have no reason to keep from him sexual stuff she's doing with other guys.
Depending on how much drugs they are consuming, something could happen. I even had the suspicion that it could happen to Perry. :whistle: :unsure: :HideThePain:
 
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Depending on how much drugs they are consuming, something could happen. I even had the suspicion that it could happen to Perry. :whistle: :unsure: :HideThePain:
Well, if something did happen then you could realistically expect Lena mention that in the later part of her side of the story. But when she comments/thinks about all her relationships and other events there's no mention about doing anything with Wade. So there's really no reason to insist there was anything.
 

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Technically, Lena is only a cheater if you as the player make her act this way. She can be fully faithful in exclusive relationship if you so choose. But as far as the others go, yeah.
Of the three he listed, only Cherry is a cheater, and it's... Kind of vague.

Lena is only a cheater I'd the player chooses for her to be a cheater.

Cindy is a cheater only if the player (as Ian) chooses to cheat with her, or doesn't do anything to help Wade and Cindy's relationship. Even if Ian doesn't get involved in the Cindy/Wade drama it's still unclear that she is cheating on Wade. All we have is a picture of a hand on a butt. Which isn't great optics, but not confirmed she's cheating.

And Cherry admits to ruining Lena and Axel's relationship. But it sounds like their threesome might have happened first and then there is some ambiguity on if Cherry actually knew how much damage that caused to Lena. Like she knew they were in a relationship, but maybe didn't know what kind of a relationship it was or if Lena was OK with Cherry and Axel getting together without Lena involved. That part of their past is still somewhat shrouded in mystery.
 
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And Cherry admits to ruining Lena and Axel's relationship. But it sounds like their threesome might have happened first and then there is some ambiguity on if Cherry actually knew how much damage that caused to Lena. Like she knew they were in a relationship, but maybe didn't know what kind of a relationship it was or if Lena was OK with Cherry and Axel getting together without Lena involved. That part of their past is still somewhat shrouded in mystery.
Lena mentions that Cherry was being friends with her while she fucked Axel behind her back, before the threesome. I really don't think Cherry was somehow unaware about the nature of relationship Lena and Axel had. When Cherry talks with Ian she makes it clear she understand and regrets she was doing shit thing to Lena. None of that "i didn't know their relationship was like that" apologism. :sneaky:
 
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Lena mentions that Cherry was being friends with her while she fucked Axel behind her back, before the threesome. I really don't think Cherry was somehow unaware about the nature of relationship Lena and Axel had. When Cherry talks with Ian she makes it clear she understand and regrets she was doing shit thing to Lena. None of that "i didn't know their relationship was like that" apologism. :sneaky:
Yes, but we're not really certain of the exact timeline. And that does sort of matter here in this instance. We don't know when Cherry realized what she was doing was hurting Lena, we don't know when Lena found out, or when her and Cherry became friends, when the threesome happened.

That's not me making a definitive statement that Cherry isn't a cheater, because she likely is. But there is enough ambiguity to make the argument she might not be.
 

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That's not me making a definitive statement that Cherry isn't a cheater, because she likely is. But there is enough ambiguity to make the argument she might not be.
There honestly isn't any ambiguity about it, Cherry explicitly admits she was doing shitty thing to Lena and she was doing it knowingly, because she prioritized her own feelings for Axel. She was willingly the girl Axel cheated on Lena with.

When Ian tries to run the same line by her, that she maybe didn't quite know what she was doing, she tells him point blank to stop huffing copium. :sneaky:
 

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Any info about when this game will be finished? I would love to play it but i don't like to wait every update
No. Currently on chapter 13. 16-20 chapters are planned. A chapter can take at least half a year. So at least 2 years, but 4 and more are quite likely, if the development speed doesn't change.
 
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No. Currently on chapter 13. 16-20 chapters are planned. A chapter can take at least half a year. So at least 2 years, but 4 and more are quite likely, if the development speed doesn't change.
Still so so much better than A Wife and Mother. I'm probably looking at another 2-4 years just for the next major Sam scene.
 
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So, just tested the beta, and on the Trinity path it is still possible for the Holly gloryhole scene to happen. Is anyone familiar with the discussions on Patreon or discord to know if this will be left in for the final?

Also, are there more than one path to reach the Holly Trinity? I thought it was date Lena, go on trip with Holly, kiss, but stop there, tell Lena, let Lena and Holly kiss, and then finalise it or something on the beach. But it seems on that old playthrough, because Ian and Holly weren't together, Holly hung out with Ivy? It's honestly hard to recall one particular playthroughs choices when there are multiple ones over the years.
 

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So, just tested the beta, and on the Trinity path it is still possible for the Holly gloryhole scene to happen. Is anyone familiar with the discussions on Patreon or discord to know if this will be left in for the final?

Also, are there more than one path to reach the Holly Trinity? I thought it was date Lena, go on trip with Holly, kiss, but stop there, tell Lena, let Lena and Holly kiss, and then finalise it or something on the beach. But it seems on that old playthrough, because Ian and Holly weren't together, Holly hung out with Ivy? It's honestly hard to recall one particular playthroughs choices when there are multiple ones over the years.
You can also get the trinity by dating Lena, fucking Holly and Lena leaving Ian because of this, but Ian still being on good terms with Lena and Lena wanting Holly as well. So later on, Ian and Holly decide to include Lena. Your route was Ian and Lena deciding to include Holly.
 

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You can also get the trinity by dating Lena, fucking Holly and Lena leaving Ian because of this, but Ian still being on good terms with Lena and Lena wanting Holly as well. So later on, Ian and Holly decide to include Lena. Your route was Ian and Lena deciding to include Holly.
Ah, that's good to know. I didn't manage to get Perry and Emma together on that playthrough, so it deserves a restart anyways (though I still think any Trinity Holly wouldn't get that caught up in Ivy's recent shenanigans).

Do you happen to know if Lena can unintentionally ruin her chances on being invited into the Trinity? Since she'll be single for a stretch.
 

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Hmm looking at the script of the beta build, looks like the newly added meeting with Emma may get an extension down the road, if Lena and Emma had their shopping "date" in Ch.11. :whistle::coffee:
 

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Hmm playing the update, it's kinda disappointing that for Lena who broke up with Ian in Ch.12 and has lena_go_holly at 5 there's apparently no way to get together with Holly. They just briefly mention the breakup and that's basically it, the visit is over.

PilotLara sorry to bother you, because it's technically not a bug, but is there a chance you could mention this idea to EK? Have a path on Saturday during Holly's visit, for Lena with v12_ian_lena_breakup and lena_go_holly at 5, to bring up their feelings for each other, with option to start dating and maybe linking to the sex scene they can have there? For Lena who has lena_axel_fuck active this could be good moment to spend willpoint to decide to end things with Axel in order to be with Holly, too. Well, just a thought. :whistle:

edit: found a bug while at it: on the throuple route, after the # HOLLY TRINITY sex scene ends, the game is likely to directly jump into # IAN DATE SECOND CHANCE because the conditions for it are fullfilled:
Python:
    if v13_lena_ian_date == False and ian_lena_dating and ian_lena_crisis != "forgive":
the check should exclude cases where holly_trinity == 2
Yeah I'll pass those along. Thanks, ffive.
 
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No, selling Holly to Ivy and relationship with Ian are mutually exclusive. Just like Lena's romantic relationship with Holly is mutually exclusive with Ivy's "guidance".
I called that bull... day one

But who knows maybe eva has corruption plans foe sweet holly in relationship like good girl gone bad with cute one at porn shoot
 
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