VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[russelld]

My favorite sequence is when Lena kisses Ian for the first time at the record store and then she turns the corner and kisses Robert passionately and they go to her place for sex. Amazing turnaround.

 

[Geigi]

To be fair, i think that some of the sex scenes actually add a lot to the narrative at certain points. Like that scene with Ian punishing Lena, e.g.? Not only it's fire, but it also shows very well how the whole cheating thing has affected their relationship going forward, as well as Ian's (and Lena's) feelings at the moment. Same for the trinity scene and some others, early in the game.

So i don't think it's jarring or that EK's games would necessarily be better if they're made purely sfw. There are some sex scenes which wouldn't make difference if they're removed, but overall i think EK's games would do better as equivalent of those romance novels, which do include some sex at the end of the day. It's just not main focus.

That Ian-Lena sex scene was one of the best written sex scenes in FMC games.

Sex sells much better in this industry.

However, Eva succeeded because their work was a healthy mix of romance and porn. Characters and stereotypes, plot and porn.


Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Haven't you seen other games here?
Cocky alpha assholes like Axel and Mike are great to have in the game, the corruption aspect is one of the core aspects of these games. But if these types are balanced with some nice, comforting, reasonable nice guys, its a much better end product, just how in GGGB you had some wholesome routes. And even their alpha Jack had some depth and possible redemption, while in ORS, Axels content got cut and he is an irredeemable villain.

I couldn't stand Jack in the beginning but he grew on me and I was positively surprised by his wedding ending.

 

[Nifferman]

I do believe Eva can turn a stereotype characters into good ones, an example is Jack from GGGB, he starts out as just a privileged man-whore but once u start to know him on a deeper level he doesn't as bad as he was painted out to be.

 

[russelld]

My favorite sequence is when Lena kisses Ian for the first time at the record store and then she turns the corner and kisses Robert passionately and they go to her place for sex. Amazing turnaround.

That scene is a classic. It's like she's saying to herself "Enough of this serious lovey dovey/dating/relationship/feelings bullshit, let's get back to plain old fucking".

 

[AndreDA]

There are 2 core problems, really -

1 - all other romances are written to either complement or sabotage/kink up the Ian-Lena dynamic. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be fully developed love stories on their own, even in the "love paths".

2 - all male characters are written to either make Ian look better in comparison (all the loser friends) or like a beta cuck (all the "alpha" fuckboys), depending on what you're into. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be three-dimensional characters or compelling love interests on their own.

 

[MisterX_]

Hi ! Does anyone has a save for the slutty Holy scene ?

 

[fatpussy123]

There are 2 core problems, really -

1 - all other romances are written to either complement or sabotage/kink up the Ian-Lena dynamic. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be fully developed love stories on their own, even in the "love paths".

2 - all male characters are written to either make Ian look better in comparison (all the loser friends) or like a beta cuck (all the "alpha" fuckboys), depending on what you're into. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be three-dimensional characters or compelling love interests on their own.

I agree with the second point. But I don't see it with the first. Yes Ian x Lena are pushed the the hardest by the game. But the other romances aren't all geared to enhance Ian x Lena. You can play Ian x Holly or Ian x Cindy straight and not have any real interference from Lena. Unless you meant Lena's romances which I wouldn't even call that. They're all corruption/lust based and not romance, with very few exceptions.

 

[Jplays512]

So I was wondering do you guys think Alison would be sleeping with Jeremy if he wasn't one of Ian's good friends? This is based on if you are not sleeping with or dating Alison. To me it always seemed like she was mainly sleeping with him because she hoped it would make Ian jealous/ to get back at him in a "If you won't sleep with me I will just sleep with your friend" kind of way. I can't tell if that is just a duh that is super obvious or if I am looking to deep into that whole thing.

 

[Gicoo]

So I was wondering do you guys think Alison would be sleeping with Jeremy if he wasn't one of Ian's good friends? This is based on if you are not sleeping with or dating Alison. To me it always seemed like she was mainly sleeping with him because she hoped it would make Ian jealous/ to get back at him in a "If you won't sleep with me I will just sleep with your friend" kind of way. I can't tell if that is just a duh that is super obvious or if I am looking to deep into that whole thing.

It's both. Jeremy is an old friend, available and willing to fuck her, but also connected to Ian, so she tries to make Ian jealous through his friend. Its just a very convenient timing for her: She just broke off with her partner, so she is looking through her small social circle, and both Ian (who was taken for years by Gillian beforehand) and Jeremy are available and not named Perry.