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I'm curious what is planned for Ian / Jessica. Both couldn't be more different. The story will probably only be about sex, maybe a kind of domination, BDSM & humiliation.
 

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In GGGB Jessica wasn't actually that kinky, she just liked sex. Now that Firraxa talked about route limits and concentrating on some, I would like to at least agree with that in regards to Jessica. I am sure there's a segment out there that's curious about her, but I'm not very interested in content with an old character, so I would be quite happy if Eva just dropped any scenes with her in favour of making more content to the route characters we already have.
 
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So I ignored Ian as best as I could, let him ignore Holly for the most part as well. Right now I'm at chapter 6 or something and all Lena did was to invite Holly to the park once (and masturbated to her). Holly still says she likes Ian and Lena does so too, for some reason. I also chose every music option, did the lyrics right and still she says "can't make any money with music, not even an option".

What am I doing wrong? :c Or is that just how the game was written?
 

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So I ignored Ian as best as I could, let him ignore Holly for the most part as well. Right now I'm at chapter 6 or something and all Lena did was to invite Holly to the park once (and masturbated to her). Holly still says she likes Ian and Lena does so too, for some reason. I also chose every music option, did the lyrics right and still she says "can't make any money with music, not even an option".

What am I doing wrong? :c Or is that just how the game was written?
How it is written, Holly has a crush on Ian no matter what up to this point, she might be starting to let go now (specially if she slept with Lena). And Lena is friends with Ian, even if the player has done nothing to pursue both of them romantically or kept their relationship points as low as possible, they are still at least decent company to each other and neither has done anything to make one hate the other.

It doesn't matter how good of a musician you are, if you are self-taught with no pedigree it is really hard to start making good money with it. There probably will be a path where Lena eventually gets there but it is not gonna be off her first time playing in public, and it is not gonna be easy if she keeps trying to do it solo.
 
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I would like to at least agree with that in regards to Jessica. I am sure there's a segment out there that's curious about her, but I'm not very interested in content with an old character, so I would be quite happy if Eva just dropped any scenes with her in favour of making more content to the route characters we already have.
At this point I would take Jessica scenes over other underdeveloped characters like Bobby, and Ed. Mainly because Lena doesn't need another low tier male, but also Jessica would be a nice partner in any FFF, MMF or FFM scenario. Thirdly making good Jessica cheat feels like an accomplishment (If im playing a trophy hunting Ian/Lena).
 

BlandChili

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So I ignored Ian as best as I could, let him ignore Holly for the most part as well. Right now I'm at chapter 6 or something and all Lena did was to invite Holly to the park once (and masturbated to her). Holly still says she likes Ian and Lena does so too, for some reason. I also chose every music option, did the lyrics right and still she says "can't make any money with music, not even an option".

What am I doing wrong? :c Or is that just how the game was written?
If you're in chapter 6 then you aren't doing anything wrong. Lena/Holly doesn't happen until ch. 8.
At this point I would take Jessica scenes over other underdeveloped characters like Bobby, and Ed. Mainly because Lena doesn't need another low tier male, but also Jessica would be a nice partner in any FFF, MMF or FFM scenario. Thirdly making good Jessica cheat feels like an accomplishment (If im playing a trophy hunting Ian/Lena).
Yeah, all that's fair I suppose. I don't really have a ticket to the Ed/Billy/Stan races so I'm mostly neutral about them. I would sure support dropping any of them in favour of giving Lena another nice option, but at that point we're getting into subjective territory of what character is a good option or not.
My disinterest in Jessica is mainly her status as an old character, I do not find it interesting to get involved with her, even though I quite enjoyed her in GGGB
 

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If you're in chapter 6 then you aren't doing anything wrong. Lena/Holly doesn't happen until ch. 8.

Yeah, all that's fair I suppose. I don't really have a ticket to the Ed/Billy/Stan races so I'm mostly neutral about them. I would sure support dropping any of them in favour of giving Lena another nice option, but at that point we're getting into subjective territory of what character is a good option or not.
My disinterest in Jessica is mainly her status as an old character, I do not find it interesting to get involved with her, even though I quite enjoyed her in GGGB
My sole interest in Jessica is curiosity for the Ian x bad girl Jessica content. I assume that there won't be much content with Jessica when it comes (compared to the main characters), but I'd be really interested to see how a dominant chad Ian x bad girl Jessica scene would play out.
Beyond that I don't find her that interesting as a character, especially in comparison to the other girls in this game. I agree she was good in GGGB, it's just in this game there's so much more variety of characters, including Ivy who is similar in personality (to a bad girl Jess, so far as I can see), that Jessica really doesn't stand out that much or feel unique like she did in GGGB. Even less so in her good girl persona.
In ORS she's the sort of character you can take or leave without any real impact, which is kinda a shame, but there it is.
 
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Get rid of the keychain (who the hell wears keychains in 2021 lol, I used to wear that in high school, like 10 years ago) and the charisma outfit would actually be quite ~nice~. It has a nice jacket and nice chinos. I know people are complaining about drab colors but in my experience drab colors on men (gray, silver, shades of black) look best.
 
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Get rid of the keychain (who the hell wears keychains in 2021 lol, I used to wear that in high school, like 10 years ago) and the charisma outfit would actually be quite ~nice~. It has a nice jacket and nice chinos. I know people are complaining about drab colors but in my experience drab colors on men (gray, silver, shades of black) look best.
Not saying that isn't a fair oppinion, but I think you can overdo it and when the point is to express charisma hues of gray and blue seems like a boring choice to me personally.
Of course you could make the argument that a charismatic individual can wear anything and be an interesting person, but I think for clothing options in a video game it's smart to design each choice a teeny tiny bit more direct in conveying the intention.

Also it'd just be nice to have varied choices. The wits outfit was already black/gray and according to Eva so will the rest of the sets. That makes them all boring to me overall, so it's not so much that I mind black/blue/gray hues, it's more that I think they become boring in reference to each other. What's the point of giving us four options of only the clothing articles themselves change? Clothing colour as a choice is supposed to be about displaying our impression of the character, having all sets in the same colour scheme completely removes my interest in choosing anything.

If I want Ian to look more colourful so far, my only option is the red shirt he already has. The games design fails if none of them appeal to the player and streamlining the colour choice makes that more likely with more people, I would argue.
 
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Looks like a work outfit. Actually looks more fitting than his shirt and jeans when working at the magazine.
 

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Of course you could make the argument that a charismatic individual can wear anything and be an interesting person, but I think for clothing options in a video game it's smart to design each choice a teeny tiny bit more direct in conveying the intention.
I agree that a charismatic person could wear pretty much anything and still be interesting, but that's in the flesh, with all their body language and mannerisms and way of talking that convinces you. In a game with a static sprite the most we have to go on is dialogue and the suggested effect of talk and actions on other characters. It's different to directly convincing the player that the character is charismatic, in which case the style and color of clothes can go a way to cover that difference.
 

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I REALLY Like and Enjoy ORS.
But I would like to SEE a More stronger relationship between Holly & Ian. Is This possible?
(Yes, I played the "route" where Ian went to the Book Fair w/ Holly and they had sex then Ian confessed his feelings for Lena; causing him to Lose both of them,... which I think was kinda stupid.)
His 'dismissal' of Holly had NOTHING to do with His Feelings for Her, but more for his guilt and feelings for Lena.

* Was Not FAIR to Make Ian a Douche for having a "one-Night" Romp w/ Holly - He admitted His Mistake, and KNEW how unfair it was to Be with Holly,...

** Ian Is NOT Jeremy!! Jeremy IS the Only Douche in This Game,...well, MAYBE Not The ONLY Douche.
Robert & Axel Rank Pretty High on The Douche-bag Meter as well.

- Jeremy IS definitely a Piece of Shit and a Lousy Friend!!
He had Louise (yeah, yeah."Louise Is Not My Girlfriend"), but he didn't bother to correct her; fear of No longer being able to Fuck her.So, He Was her Boyfriend by Default.
And He was trying for Ivy too, but THAT was Not Good Enough;
He Had to Try and 'under-cut' Ian to fuck Alison too; KNOWING how Ian felt about her.
- Despite what Jeremy says, If He had the opportunity; He would Fuck Emma (just to Piss Perry off),
& Cindy (just because She Is Hott) too!

- Lena's Reaction to "dump Ian" was a bit over-board
It was an agreement NOT to be in an Exclusive Relationship, or At Least NOT in a Hurry to become one.
* So, He was Not Really cheating on Lena (well, maybe from his feelings for Lena & his POV he had).
I CAN understand Lena being Upset & Disappointed with Ian, but Not enough to "break-up" with him, or "friend-zone" him.
(They had an Intimate & somewhat Emotional relationship, YES. But Ian was Not Her Boyfriend, By her Own admission.)

And It Is kinda Hypocritical of Lena To Have Sex with Mike (which I did NOT Do), and to Punish Ian for fucking Holly.
by Her Own admission, Lena KNEW that Holly was "HOTT" for Ian (Crush), and she did NOTHING about it.
Lena should Have Informed Ian about it, or Confronted Holly about Her feelings for Ian.
* Had Ian known about Holly's "crush" on him, would he still of had sex with her?? - IDK
I would LIKE to Think No. He liked and cared about Holly; having sex with her would have been taking advantage of her.
 

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It was hard coming up with a Charisma outfit for Ian. I had some ideas but they could also fit the Wits and Lust category, and I wanted each to have a distinct flair.
I finally decided on making a reworked version of Ian's open blue shirt outfit, making it more sleek and "urban" and adding some cool details, like the necklace and the chain. If the Wits outfit was something close to what a young Seymour could wear, this goes more in the Jeremy direction.
Another thing you might've noticed is the color palette, very similar to the Wits outfit. I decided to use the same color palette for all four new designs, tying them together. This is something I wish I had done more with Lena's four outfits, and I might go back and rework them a bit (especially the athletics outfit, I'm not too happy with that one).
Do you think Ian looks cool in these clothes?
Why does the Wits outfit make him look like a waiter? Charisma outfit looks like he writes bad romantic goth poetry. I still prefer it over the Wits outfit though.
 

BlandChili

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I REALLY Like and Enjoy ORS.
But I would like to SEE a More stronger relationship between Holly & Ian. Is This possible?
(Yes, I played the "route" where Ian went to the Book Fair w/ Holly and they had sex then Ian confessed his feelings for Lena; causing him to Lose both of them,... which I think was kinda stupid.)
His 'dismissal' of Holly had NOTHING to do with His Feelings for Her, but more for his guilt and feelings for Lena.
How's that stupid? Ian and Lena can get together again if Ian just doesn't fuck Holly, seems perfectly in line with Lena's character.
* Was Not FAIR to Make Ian a Douche for having a "one-Night" Romp w/ Holly - He admitted His Mistake, and KNEW how unfair it was to Be with Holly,...
That's your choice. Ian knows that Lena and Holly are good friends, you have to be an asshole to sleep with both of a pair of friends.
- Lena's Reaction to "dump Ian" was a bit over-board
It was an agreement NOT to be in an Exclusive Relationship, or At Least NOT in a Hurry to become one.
* So, He was Not Really cheating on Lena (well, maybe from his feelings for Lena & his POV he had).
I CAN understand Lena being Upset & Disappointed with Ian, but Not enough to "break-up" with him, or "friend-zone" him.
(They had an Intimate & somewhat Emotional relationship, YES. But Ian was Not Her Boyfriend, By her Own admission.)
He chose to have sex with someone important to her. Lena explains perfectly well why she's opposed to it. It's not that Ian slept with someone else, it's that he slept with Holly, someone that is dear to Lena and that Lena wants to protect.
And It Is kinda Hypocritical of Lena To Have Sex with Mike (which I did NOT Do), and to Punish Ian for fucking Holly.
Irrelevant if you don't choose it yourself.
by Her Own admission, Lena KNEW that Holly was "HOTT" for Ian (Crush), and she did NOTHING about it.
She shouldn't have to. Your Ian was a douchebag for sleeping with her friend, you should just have played a better person.
Lena should Have Informed Ian about it, or Confronted Holly about Her feelings for Ian.
Perhaps, but more importantly, Ian should have. Lena is not responsible for Ian choosing to ignore their friendship.
* Had Ian known about Holly's "crush" on him, would he still of had sex with her?? - IDK
I would LIKE to Think No. He liked and cared about Holly; having sex with her would have been taking advantage of her.
Well, yes. Because her crush on him is completely clear as day. Even if you think Ian is oblivious to it, by the time he can sleep with Holly she's spelled it out quite clearly.

You played Ian as a prick, try replaying the game with him as a good friend and a good lover.
 
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