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Im curious as to what Eva meant when she said the infamous Alison x Ian scene will be reworked :unsure:? Afaik there were no pictures which look terribly out of place.

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Still, Im really excited to replay the game to see which scenes have been rewritten and more importantly redrawn. Also the enhancements to existing photos is always welcomed. Fingers crossed it wont just be Lena's photos which get retouched.
 
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News on Eva's Patreon. Stan's getting body mass moved from his belly to his cock

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That's pretty awesome! Lena desperately needs some better options, and Stan was a character who was unique and had potential. Like others have said his personality doesn't need a huge overhaul as he was basically a socially awkward introvert who was perceptive and could carry a conversation if the person like Lena easy to talk to, so pretty "normal for the most part. The main issue is his voyeurism, the scene where he's caught masterbating needs to be cut, because it just doesn't make sense for Lena to want to work with him again(maybe have that implied instead, with Lena and Louise going into his room when he's not there, and Lena can choose to simply "not think about it", maybe it comes up again later if they engage in a relationship), along with his peeping on her as that's just fuckin' creepy(maybe he accidently peeps on her, on his way to ask her something, and gets caught up in it, no "rubin' on out" though, and having him come forward with an apology could make it work, so much like most ppl he's got "creepy desires" but tries not to be a creep). He also seemed to be motivated to pursue his photography more through his interactions with Lena, could be a good arc for him, in which she motivates him to actively go for what he wants more, and this cascading into a huge change for his character(something like Senpai's arc from "Don't Toy with me Nagatoro-san" S1). Think the dynamic between the 2 should be different as well, maybe do a more wholesome/playful version of the "stalkfalp" approach Eva had going, where Lena weilds the power in the relationship but relegates it to playful teasing/ assertiveness, largely moving things on her terms but in a wholesome way(something like Maya from BaD) rather than malicious like Ivy, could appeal to a different kink while bringing out a different side to Lena's character. Would love to see this reflect on Lena's own arc as well, as i feel she really only gets something wholesome from Holly or Ian, but that would probably be to much to change so it could be changed for after the timeskip. Jaysus I've thought about this way too much, am i......... am i a Stan-stan?

Excited for the "re-drawn" scenes, some of the initial ones looked as bad as GGGB. Hope Eva does get this on Steam soon and realizes that it's already good enough, wouldn't mind having this on my "main" account :sneaky:.
 

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Im curious as to what Eva meant when she said the infamous Alison x Ian scene will be reworked :unsure:? Afaik there were no pictures which look terribly out of place.

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Still, Im really excited to replay the game to see which scenes have been rewritten and more importantly redrawn. Also the enhancements to existing photos is always welcomed. Fingers crossed it wont just be Lena's photos which get retouched.
Yes, this is really interesting because I have no Idea which the "Infamous" Alison Scene was. I think the Boobjob Scene you mentioned Looks fine. But for me the New Chapter had one Alison Scene where she kind of looked weird but this can't be an Infamous Scene since it's New.
 

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Im curious as to what Eva meant when she said the infamous Alison x Ian scene will be reworked :unsure:? Afaik there were no pictures which look terribly out of place.

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Still, Im really excited to replay the game to see which scenes have been rewritten and more importantly redrawn. Also the enhancements to existing photos is always welcomed. Fingers crossed it wont just be Lena's photos which get retouched.
I hope not this because i fucking love Alison's expression in this draw.
 

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Yes, this is really interesting because I have no Idea which the "Infamous" Alison Scene was. I think the Boobjob Scene you mentioned Looks fine. But for me the New Chapter had one Alison Scene where she kind of looked weird but this can't be an Infamous Scene since it's New.
Could it be the one Ian telling Alison to bark like a dog, that sex scene?
 

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Could it be the one Ian telling Alison to bark like a dog, that sex scene?
yeaaa even if Eva doesn't like that scene I dont see why she would call it "infamous". Like what, does it have a reputation among her patrons who complain about that scene? I always thought no one gave a hoot about Alison :ROFLMAO:.

Overall I have not seen any complains about Alison's sex scene. What I have seen is complains about her character but that's a different topic.
 

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I'm on board with changing Stan as a character, maybe not an entire overhaul that makes him into something he is not but a bit more depth on him so it's easier for me to choose him over the other characters available. In the first chapters, when Lena meets Axel in the restaurant and goes home, I always pick Louise over Stan because why would I pick him to talk about it? Not saying you can't choose him, just that I don't think Lena would do that.

After the photoshoot where you can decide between Stan or Danny, you don't really interact with him other than for sexy stuff relating to "onlyfans", yes he can attend the music performance but he stops being a complete person with personality, and is mostly there for the role of creep.
 

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yeaaa even if Eva doesn't like that scene I dont see why she would call it "infamous". Like what, does it have a reputation among her patrons who complain about that scene? I always thought no one gave a hoot about Alison :ROFLMAO:.

Overall I have not seen any complains about Alison's sex scene. What I have seen is complains about her character but that's a different topic.
Yes the dislike of Alison has many other Reasons but not her Sex Scenes. Actually even if I for once imagine not being an Alison Fan I think her Scenes with Ian would be among the best for me.
 

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I avoid Stan in my PT and I don't think it'll change despite an overhaul. There is Ian for the "good guy", Stan being not a good "villain" (creepy incel guy) unlike Seymour and somewhat Axel. If it's not intended it's a failure indeed. Perhaps he could be used for the femdom kink (with a male, not counting with Louise)
 

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I got booted as a patron for complaining about the next one once again requiring a restart. I didn't choose to drop, it wasn't Eva Kiss, it was Patreon. I mean Jesus Fuck, it's happened enough and too far along. That's HOURS of time per save, even with skipping. Remember the 7 Ps - Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
 

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Dude. If it takes you HOURS while skipping to create new saves on a run through, you’re doing it wrong. You either have way too many unnecessary saves or you’re uh, just not skipping everything? Even if you’re creating saves for the different paths and relationships, all you need to do is key off of the relevant choices and it breaks off from there.

Second, this is still an unfinished game. There’s nothing anywhere that says the developer can’t go back and fix something to make the game better. If you want to complain when the game is done, cool. But this isn’t the finished product and I fully expect there to be overhauls and changes as she goes through it.

I got booted as a patron for complaining about the next one once again requiring a restart. I didn't choose to drop, it wasn't Eva Kiss, it was Patreon. I mean Jesus Fuck, it's happened enough and too far along. That's HOURS of time per save, even with skipping. Remember the 7 Ps - Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
 

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Dude. If it takes you HOURS while skipping to create new saves on a run through, you’re doing it wrong. You either have way too many unnecessary saves or you’re uh, just not skipping everything? Even if you’re creating saves for the different paths and relationships, all you need to do is key off of the relevant choices and it breaks off from there.

Second, this is still an unfinished game. There’s nothing anywhere that says the developer can’t go back and fix something to make the game better. If you want to complain when the game is done, cool. But this isn’t the finished product and I fully expect there to be overhauls and changes as she goes through it.
Exactly, but people here don't seem to understand the concept of ongoing. It's not just with ORS, it's with most games around here. People have become jaded with this concept of the patreon regular updates and for some reason they come to think that an update on a product that's still being developped should be treated as a finished one.

To all these whiners circling around I can only say this: I hate to spoil it for you, but the patreons who support the developpers are paying for them to develop a game, not for a finished product. It would be really nice if people stopped all this childish behaviour where they feel entitled to bitch about something that they either don't understand how it works or that they have maladjusted expectations and just start growing the f*ck up, because way too many times it's just sad to come around this forum and read these ridiculous rants of people who are just sitting on their ass, never worked a single day of their lifes on a creative process, but nonetheless they just feel the need to come to a forum to rant and take out their frustrations on the work of others, jumping in on every opportunity they see to take a shot and criticize them, because things aren't working out the way they wanted it... I guess some people simply never got the memo that says that the world doesn't move around them...
 

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Stan's problem is that there is really not much interesting that can happen in his path. What future scenes could there be? Spying on Lena having sex, again? Maybe Lena choosing to leave her door open for him? But then what? There could be a femdom path, but we already got Louise for that. Lena could sell more 'services' to him, but right now she is swimming in money. Apparently EvaKiss never had a real plan for him, just wanted to make up scenes as the game went on. But she couldn't come up with anything interesting, either.
I do hope he doesn't get redesigned. We already have too much bland good looking guys (hi there, Robert/Mike/Jeremy). That would make it really hard to sell Lena falling for him, though. They would need to talk a lot more. Right now there is just after she met Axel, where he comes off as pretty helpless and their first photo shoot where Lena sounds annoyed all the time.
Maybe he could manage her stalkfap account, that way they could look at her photos together, choose which ones to upload and talk about how hot they are. There would be a reason for more shoots and they could also talk about stalkfap while shooting :unsure: Then Lena can either go for a real relationship or just use him for free labor/her exhibitionist kink.
 
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