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I have to say I'll definitely miss the old pictures. Most of the reworked scenes so far covered Lena's photoshoot, which I've always thought were some of the better pictures that did not need changing.

I doubt there will be an option to keep the old scenes so I'll definitely keep my v0.9 final version.
 
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So the most important Q&A info storywise so far seems to be that "Ivy will have content with both Ian and/or Lena" and that Jeremy’s photo sharing soon "will be more than just photos".

Eva’s various comments about Ivy sounds like she’s got things planned, but is waiting for the right moment, similarly to how she’s previously talked about the first scene between Lena and Axel. The "both" and the "and/or" in her comment is a bit contradictory, but I choose to take that as "both will have scenes with her, maybe even both at once". The scenes she ends up saving for later are usually very good, so it sounds like Ivy fans will get their reward eventually.

I also assume "more than just photos" doesn’t just mean videos, as we’ve already seen that. Ian either stumbling upon Jeremy and Alison (or someone else) by chance, or Jeremy inviting him to come watch him in action with someone, maybe Emma? (I can’t remember the details of Ian’s texting with Jeremy/Emma in the previous chapter, but maybe it already hinted at something along those lines?)
 

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Cant wait for Jeremy and Ian to double team Alison and Emma. Question is: Who first? :unsure:

Alison's has been hinted throughout the game, whereas Emma's is a lot more recent. On the other hand, Emma doesn't need much convincing although Ian is able to outright ask Alison about it.
 
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Yes, it seems to mean that Ian and Jeremy will double team a girl
Wasn't that already hinted at in the last update, where you can ask Alison on the hotel vacation if she wants to have a threesome with him
You’re both right, it might just be a reference to the threesome I’m pretty sure we’ll see in the next chapter. But the threesome is only hinted at if Ian goes with Alison on the vacation (I think?); if not you’re left with Jeremy’s videos of him, Alison and Billy, which Ian finds great pleasure in until his post nut clarity makes him question what he’s doing.

In other words: Some of Jeremy’s picture sharing requires that Ian isn’t involved with Alison and Emma himself, and instead just watches as a voyeur. So the "more than just photos" could mean the threesome, but I think it could also mean something Ian isn’t directly involved in himself.
 

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So the most important Q&A info storywise so far seems to be that "Ivy will have content with both Ian and/or Lena"
That is interesting, I wonder if anyone has asked about Lena/Emma, I'll have to read through the Q&A when I have time.
Eva’s various comments about Ivy sounds like she’s got things planned, but is waiting for the right moment, similarly to how she’s previously talked about the first scene between Lena and Axel. The "both" and the "and/or" in her comment is a bit contradictory, but I choose to take that as "both will have scenes with her, maybe even both at once".
To me that quote just reads as her saying that Ivy will have both solo and moresome scenes with Ian and Lena, perhaps both together and by themselves.

Last chapter made me worried for Ivy/Holly so I am hoping there might be some balancing so it's about Holly being their little pet, rather than just Ivy's, but Lena need to become proactive dammit!
I also assume "more than just photos" doesn’t just mean videos, as we’ve already seen that. Ian either stumbling upon Jeremy and Alison (or someone else) by chance, or Jeremy inviting him to come watch him in action with someone, maybe Emma? (I can’t remember the details of Ian’s texting with Jeremy/Emma in the previous chapter, but maybe it already hinted at something along those lines?)
I assume the player will just be given the choice to escalate things between them and Alison, at least if they've both done her. The player would get to pick between being directly, physically, involved rather than just the voyeur?
 

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Not sure how I feel about yet another rework (which imo did Stan even need one considering everyone liked him as is? And I'm guessing there won't be any more voyeur scenes with him?) as there's already been other reworks and it feels like their isn't as much of a detailed plan about the game and what Eva wants it to be. It seems she'll work on advancing the storyline for a few chapters then in a spur of the moment decide she wants to do something else and goes back and overhauls things. A part of me thinks it'd be just fine to leave things as they are and continue forward. There's also the concern of having to start all over once again and another likely 6 month or so wait for chapter 10. Alas, if the end product is still good and of high quality like her work has always been then the hassle is worth it.
 

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Yes, I think a lot of people share those concerns. At this point, I think she should also be homing in on the "obvious scenes" that will define the game. Basically, I don't think she should wait another nine chapters to get Lena, Ian, and Holly in a threesome. Or Jeremy and Ian double teaming Allison.
 
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That is interesting, I wonder if anyone has asked about Lena/Emma, I'll have to read through the Q&A when I have time.
I haven't seen it among the questions already answered, but there's a big backlog of unanswered questions. And there's always the chance to chip in with a question yourself if you're a patreon! (Edit: Skipped through the Q&A, and there's already unanswered questions waiting both directly about Lena and Emma, and about Emma more in general.)

Last chapter made me worried for Ivy/Holly so I am hoping there might be some balancing so it's about Holly being their little pet, rather than just Ivy's, but Lena need to become proactive dammit!
Yeah, Ivy definitely seems to have spent the weeks without Lena by making Holly her own pet, leaving Lena more as a spectator. Personally I prefer the romance route between Lena and Holly anyway, but it definitely would've be nice if Lena could get involved more herself (and make sure it's done on Holly's terms, which I don't trust Ivy's doing).

I assume the player will just be given the choice to escalate things between them and Alison, at least if they've both done her. The player would get to pick between being directly, physically, involved rather than just the voyeur?
Sounds like a plausible way for it to play out. The three of them meeting up in several scenarios, but Ian's involvement heavily depending on his previous preferences and what he decides during the scene.

It seems she'll work on advancing the storyline for a few chapters then in a spur of the moment decide she wants to do something else and goes back and overhauls things. A part of me thinks it'd be just fine to leave things as they are and continue forward. There's also the concern of having to start all over once again and another likely 6 month or so wait for chapter 10.
I'm not going to argue with your general feelings about the rework, because there's completely valid reasons to be skeptical about it. But from what Eva's written on Patreon earlier, I think it seems far from a "spur of the moment" decision. She's mentioned that she'd decided Stan needed a rewrite way before chapter 9 came out, and it seems like she's using the occasion to implement some other changes she's already thought through, but hasn't prioritized until now. I hope it's the last time a rework will be necessary, though.

And I'm guessing there won't be any more voyeur scenes with him?
Maybe, maybe not? He's still likely to keep some of his old traits, and if Lena doesn't encourage him to change into more of a relationship option, it wouldn't surprise me if we'll see some voyeur scenes with him. I doubt he'll have many other love interests besides Lena (Holly or Louise as long shots?), so if Lena isn't interested in him, I assume he'll still be a nerdy, sexless guy sitting in his room a lot of the time (just a less one-dimensional and slightly less creepy version of it).

Is there any idea about the next release? And TY
She's currently working on a reworked version of chapter 9, and from the way she's talking about it, it sounds like she'll release that first before continuing work on chapter 10. We don't have any estimated release date for any of them, but at least I think it's safe to say that it'll be several more months before chapter 10 is ready.
 
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I for one has no problem with Eva deciding every 3-4 updates to do a rehaul of the game instead of a full update and rework the narrative to make it more fluid. As she likes to leave things mostly unplanned, and it's a WiP game anyway.

I think it allows for more flexibility but also to not only fix some small mistakes but also regulary improve the overall quality and feel of the game. And as dear BloodyMares pointed out, better to do that once in a while and before the game is done, than after. Cause the task would just be too huge, and she'd probably opt for leaving the game as is instead.

So as far as I'm concerned, all good with "0.9 remake" and "0.13 remake" and "0.17 remake" if she so needs it.
EVEN when that means replaying the game from scratch, which I do anyway with each updates.
 

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I for one has no problem with Eva deciding every 3-4 updates to do a rehaul of the game instead of a full update and rework the narrative to make it more fluid. As she likes to leave things mostly unplanned, and it's a WiP game anyway.
That could be problematic. New narratives would mean to replay the game every 3 or 4 update, which is not a good idea.

In the end it's all about what brings more business value. The story is good as is, the art is excellent and there is nothing to improve code wise. I would like to think that this is the last rework until the end of the game, with the sole purpose of improving things in order to get it on Steam. Good reviews = More customers. Steam brings Eva another source of income and I think this is why she decided is worth doing sooner, rather then later.
 

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The story is good as is, the art is excellent and there is nothing to improve code wise.
100%. The only thing that needs changing is to have actual guitar sounds playing in the background instead of piano. Also bring back the old music for Fortress, that was heaps better.
 
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Writers move their chapters and even tweak characters all the fucking time. It's a WIP. The reason why this story is so gripping is the characters have depth and there are many, many routes. It's a choose your own adventure style.

Also, they've graced you with GGGB before this. They know what they're doing. And in the end it's all about what the values of Eva Kiss have. Some it's business value. Others it may be doing this because they're passionate about it.
 
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