Other than Stan Eva did say she was improving art and writing on some other scenes she wasn't satisfied with, so the photo shoot ith Seymour could very well be one of those.It's true that Lena wears the same lingerie as in her first photoshoot with Seymour, but I don't know why Eva would modify that photo session with Seymour, art and write are great, now, knowing that the next update will be about "improving" Stan's character and already having a couple of photo sessions with Stan, it makes me think that maybe now Lena can do that session with Seymour or with Stan, and maybe the drawing that she release is from the session with Stan. Just my thoughts
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Yeah i can easily see the next update coming after 6-7 months. Assuming that she is done with her holidays now, it will take around 2 months (best case scenario) to revamp the 9 chapters. Another 1 month of so for polishing the game for a steam release. After that, another 3-4 months for chapter 10.
I also agree with the story thing too, because as the game move forwards there will be a lot more branching. EK backed herself up in a corner with the dual protagonists, so she has to balance the branching for both characters equally. She was already on the ropes by the time GGGB ended due to multiple paths, and ORS will be even harder.
I can see all this affect her patron count as well, because a lot of people did not like the 3-4 month schedule EK has taken to release the recent chapters (mostly because each update has about 40 minutes of content for all paths combined). Stretching that time even longer will not help her at all
Counterpoint: Getting the game polished for a Steam preview release is high priority because it could start making a lot more cash for her if executed correctly. With more money flowing in, the long-haul of the game can run much more smoothly... and quickly. (Remember, we're only half-way through & this game will take 3+ years more dev time at the current rate). Extra income source means extra staff and much more time to focus on branching storylines - the most challenging part of this sort of undertaking. Seems like a calculated risk to me & a much safer bet if she puts current efforts into great promo vids/marketing & a dazzling new-and-improved Steam build to wow/hook an entirely new market of players.
Should she map those paths more solidly now though, instead of designing more on a whim? Yes. Not doing so is a big development bottleneck no matter how much potential payroll she has to boost development speed.
Should she map those paths more solidly now though, instead of designing more on a whim? Yes. Not doing so is a big development bottleneck no matter how much potential payroll she has to boost development speed.
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My personal opinion is that Eva Kiss wants to squaring the circle with ORS. On one hand side it should be something new a story about life, decisions and moral on the other side there is still this flavor GGGB.
And here I see the main issue, ORS is not GGGB 2.0. The corruption part is not really working, some content seems to be there just to satisfy some “fantasies” (Lena/Jeremy) or it’s written inconsistently, for example the Lena/Mike story, which makes Lena a complete hypocrite person.
Personally, I have no problem with all this content, as long you can avoid it. My problem is, will I be waiting 6 – 7 months for my two/three scenes which I really like only because all the other stuff has also to be satisfied?
Now we have a Stan rewriting, so that we have the check box for the story of the creepy guy with nice sexy girl. And with the last news it seems, that we also have a Seymour rewriting, so again spending time in the corruption part and not forwarding the story, maybe because there is no idea for the story.
That’s all fine, I’m not blaming anyone, but I’m thinking that I was maybe having a wrong impression of the game.
And here I see the main issue, ORS is not GGGB 2.0. The corruption part is not really working, some content seems to be there just to satisfy some “fantasies” (Lena/Jeremy) or it’s written inconsistently, for example the Lena/Mike story, which makes Lena a complete hypocrite person.
Personally, I have no problem with all this content, as long you can avoid it. My problem is, will I be waiting 6 – 7 months for my two/three scenes which I really like only because all the other stuff has also to be satisfied?
Now we have a Stan rewriting, so that we have the check box for the story of the creepy guy with nice sexy girl. And with the last news it seems, that we also have a Seymour rewriting, so again spending time in the corruption part and not forwarding the story, maybe because there is no idea for the story.
That’s all fine, I’m not blaming anyone, but I’m thinking that I was maybe having a wrong impression of the game.
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I really enjoyed Good Girl Gone Bad. A good thing about it was that you had a lot of control, you could hang out with several different people and it would be possible to end the game and maintain several love interests at the same time (like Jack, Eva and the Boss, for instance. Probably more).
Is that possible here? I feel like the story is a lot more convoluted then GGGB, since all the characters know each other and are trying to get into each others pants. Is it possible for our boy to be with more than one girl without being executed? Or are girls the only ones allowed to have multiple partners?
Is that possible here? I feel like the story is a lot more convoluted then GGGB, since all the characters know each other and are trying to get into each others pants. Is it possible for our boy to be with more than one girl without being executed? Or are girls the only ones allowed to have multiple partners?
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In terms of corruption, GGGB has pretty much eveything. A "good" girl corrupted to become a cam girl/porn actress/brainless bimbo/gang member/junkie. Hard not to do a repeat. That's why there is a male MC in ORS, but then the paths are more than doubled and are intertwined between the 2 MCs
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So far he is looking to get executed. Draw-back of the only reason people wanting to be with you is that you are a good person. The characters interested in Ian are mostly interested in him from a Romantic standpoint and if they don't get that romance- he doesn't satisfy them enough for them not to be also looking to play the field. (Alison with Jeremy, Axel with Cindy.)
Minerva exists as an isolated option for Ian. Emma may as well.
Everything else conflicts with each-other on some level or someone else in the story wants a piece of the action.
Pray for the Holly trinity I guess
Currently Lena doesn't really have to compete with anyone for her LI (outside of Ian). Maybe Ivy will be problematic to her on the Axel route? Lena's relationship problems tend to be inverse of Ian's- namely that people are not interested in her romantically and only want claim to her body- whereas in Ian's relationships people want Romance/Attention but are like w/e about his appearance.
I agree with JohnnySolo that a lot of Lena's corruption content feels "shoehorned" in / out of character. It is pretty disapointing stuff to be honest. Game is rocking too many different vibes to be worth funding to be candid. There are parts of the game I LOVE- but 50% of a pledge going into time to develop content for a bunch arcs with weird shitty perverts like Stan / Seymour is definitely not money well spent.
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You have a lot of opinions the same as me. Its so sad how the game seems to force the female MC into various different relationships and corruption, but it won't do the same for Ian. I'm really sad to hear that.So far he is looking to get executed. Draw-back of the only reason people wanting to be with you is that you are a good person. The characters interested in Ian are mostly interested in him from a Romantic standpoint and if they don't get that romance- he doesn't satisfy them enough for them not to be also looking to play the field. (Alison with Jeremy, Axel with Cindy.)
Minerva exists as an isolated option for Ian. Emma may as well.
Everything else conflicts with each-other on some level or someone else in the story wants a piece of the action.
Pray of the Holly trinity I guess
Currently Lena doesn't really have to compete with anyone for her LI (outside of Ian). Maybe Ivy will be problematic to her on the Axel route? Lena's relationship problems tend to be inverse of Ian's- namely that people are not interested in her romantically and only want claim to her body- whereas in Ian's relationships people want Romance/Attention but are like w/e about his appearance.
I agree with JohnnySolo that a lot of Lena's corruption content feels "shoehorned" in / out of character. It is pretty disapointing stuff to be honest. Game is rocking too many different vibes to be worth funding to be candid. There are parts of the game I LOVE- but 50% of a pledge going into time to develop content for a bunch arcs with weird shitty perverts like Stan / Seymour is definitely not money well spent.
So it's impossible to have fun with Cindy or Ivy without repercussions? But Lena can fuck 10 guys at the same time and it's okay?
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Mmmm. It seems like it might be headed in that direction but it is hard to tell. Cindy's route is currently in its early stages and Ian cannot even touch Ivy.
Lena's corruption route definitely seems to be headed in the direction of her just hyper-slutting everything and everyone, but there will definitely be repercussions. I don't think there will be much romance in it for instance.
The open relationship with Lena might open things up for Ian a bit- so I don't want to make any assumptions. I can definitely see this being a path for Ian to be able to be with Emma, Lena, Holly, Louise, and Minerva at the same time. Maybe Ivy too. If Ian doesn't lose Alison and Cindy on this pathing though- I'd be very surprised.
Maybe Ian's book will be a big hit and he can become a sugar daddy? Who knows. He is going to need to win over gals with Charisma or Money though b/c his body isn't cutting it
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Oh, so Cindy's Path is still in development? That's interesting to know, I shouldn't devote much effort into her then (pretty sad, she's my second favorite after Lena).Mmmm. It seems like it might be headed in that direction but it is hard to tell. Cindy's route is currently in its early stages and Ian cannot even touch Ivy.
Lena's corruption route definitely seems to be headed in the direction of her just hyper-slutting everything and everyone, but there will definitely be repercussions. I don't think there will be much romance in it for instance.
The open relationship with Lena might open things up for Ian a bit- so I don't want to make any assumptions. I can definitely see this being a path for Ian to be able to be with Emma, Lena, Holly, Louise, and Minerva at the same time. Maybe Ivy too. If Ian doesn't lose Alison and Cindy on this pathing though- I'd be very surprised.
Maybe Ian's book will be a big hit and he can become a sugar daddy? Who knows. He is going to need to win over gals with Charisma or Money though b/c his body isn't cutting it
So you think it's pretty difficult to hold onto Alison and Cindy? Because Jeremy and Axel will "attack" immediately? Should I just ignore both to avoid getting hurt?
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I'd try their routes and see how you feel about them. The Alison romance in particular is nice. Also, Cindy is a fan favorite- so you should definitely try that route as well. Who knows how things will develop over time.
I preferred going for Emma / Cherry over the Alison route and going for Holly instead of Cindy; but the other routes were nice too- just not sure how they will end up.
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Yeah, it seems nice it's just a problem I have. I hate commiting to a girl and then she fucks another dude in the story. If I never mess with her I dont care, she can fuck whoever she wants. But if I invest time and "feelings" in her just for her to go for another guy... It makes me feel like shit, to be honest.
It's the one thing I find super-discomfortable in this game, opposed to GGGB. You have no control here, while in GGGB you can pretty much think of a route before starting the game and get it. In this game... Axel and Jeremy are like fucking velociraptors, the second you drop the ball they will pounce on your girl. It's really annoying.
I wanted to give Emma try, but it in the Walktrough it says if I do it immediatly means Jeremy fucks Alison...
It's really annoying and stressful.
I wanted to have some fun with Lena and Cindy. If Alison weren't a problem, maybe her too. If Ivy is off-limits it's a shame, but I guess I'll just forget about her.
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I wouldn't mind another GGGB tbh. With a different girl and a different setting, the possibilities are endless.
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Yeah, GGGB was great. The big thing it did right was putting the readers focus on the female protagonist. It makes you feel more freedom of choice, you can pick anything you desire and test out everything.
When there are two MCs, it's really hard not to take the male MCs point of view as the main one (if you are male, of course). It makes you feel weird about choosing certain things for the female MC, considereing she's your own main love interest.
More games should follow GGGB's blueprint.
Buddy this is not the being a dik thread, you are lost
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I was thinking the same thing, ahahah! Dude took a wrong turn!
I guess he's right that getting the player invested in characters that are then stolen away by plot device is a really shitty move from a dev (that's why I dropped that game and never touched it again), but move on man xD
I think you may have done a Bugs Bunny and taken the wrong turn at Albuquerque, friend. You're in the wrong thread.
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The main difference between GGGB and ORS is that most of the characters have lives and interact with each other when you don't look. Perry gets close to Cherry, Cindy seems to lose her guard around Axel the longer they work together, Ivy still talks to Axel, Alison and Jeremy have this mutual attraction that constantly threatens and tests Ian's relationship with her, and then liberated Holly getting very close to Ivy. All of those are consequences for the choices players make. The only character in GGGB who had as many consequences was Eva. If Ash acts slutty early on, thus getting Jack's attention, then she will stay good. Otherwise, she can spiral out of control, having similarly shocking outcomes, like hooking up with Jack on the second day, deciding it's okay to cheat on her loving boyfriend, then she can get hooked up with the gang, or she can remain the good girlfriend, or she can become a BBC slut, etc. All outcomes first come as surprises and seemingly out of nowhere, but all of that was decided by the butterfly effect that us set in motion by making particular choices. If you're not understanding of Eva, you can lose her as a friend. She had her own feelings. Similarly, ORS characters all have their own personalities and expectations of Ian/Lena. It's up to you if you want to satisfy those expectations and invest fully in the relationships, or if you want to lead everyone on and naturally end up in trouble.
Ian has so many negative consequences early on because all of the girls he messes with know each other in some capacity. It's not the same for Lena. Ian has a better chance to hook up with several girls and them being understanding of it (like Emma and Cherry). Lena on the other hand was so lucky because none of the guys knew each other. It changed in Chapter 7 when Ian and Robert were properly introduced. By messing with Jeremy, she compromised her chances to become Ian's girlfriend. Who knows what other conflicts might await her further. They will come, just when she expands her friend group with people who also know each other. Axel says he's over her, but I suspect if they get back together, he would demand that she cuts all ties with other guys because he wants to own her completely. To become HIS slut, not everyone else's behind his back. If he's to share her, it would be on his terms with the person of his choice at the place and time of his choice.
Ian has so many negative consequences early on because all of the girls he messes with know each other in some capacity. It's not the same for Lena. Ian has a better chance to hook up with several girls and them being understanding of it (like Emma and Cherry). Lena on the other hand was so lucky because none of the guys knew each other. It changed in Chapter 7 when Ian and Robert were properly introduced. By messing with Jeremy, she compromised her chances to become Ian's girlfriend. Who knows what other conflicts might await her further. They will come, just when she expands her friend group with people who also know each other. Axel says he's over her, but I suspect if they get back together, he would demand that she cuts all ties with other guys because he wants to own her completely. To become HIS slut, not everyone else's behind his back. If he's to share her, it would be on his terms with the person of his choice at the place and time of his choice.
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Yeah, but it's a lot more tense in ORS. In GGGB sure, Eva can go Bad or stay Good, but that's pretty easy to manipulate and you can always end the game with her being your sexfriend while maintaining a relationship with someone else.
In ORS it feels that if you drop the ball for a single second every guy will fuck the girls you are interested in IMMEDIATELY, with no chance of stopping it. It creates a much more stressful gameplay, I feel like I need to read the Walkthrough for 20 minutes before every choice.
It's pretty unfair how you are supposed to basically ignore 90% of the content if you want to have a loving relationship with someone. Why can Lena fuck around but Ian can't? I think the game would be much more enjoyable if people weren't so hateful on Harem/Polyamory paths.