VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Mr. Muscles]

It's a temporary deal-breaker. As long as you don't start dating Holly, Lena can forgive Ian in Chapter 9 if you don't make it worse by arguing and they can start dating again, but there won't be a relationship-defining talk.

Thanks for the answer, I guess I'll just have him not do anything with Holly then.

Also, are there "bad" consequences later on if Lena went ahead with Stalkfap and Seymour's photoshoot? At the start, it made sense to try those in order to get more cash (roleplay-wise), but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff and the same happened/is happening Seymour. If it's possible to ignore both things and not have a homeless Lena later on, I might ignore them on my next playthrough if a "positive" scenario eventually arrives for Lena instead, for example, her musical/model career takes off. I don't mind spoilers. Thanks again.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Thanks for the answer, I guess I'll just have him not do anything with Holly then.

Also, are there "bad" consequences later on if Lena went ahead with Stalkfap and Seymour's photoshoot? At the start, it made sense to try those in order to get more cash (roleplay-wise), but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff and the same happened/is happening Seymour. If it's possible to ignore both things and not have a homeless Lena later on, I might ignore them on my next playthrough if a "positive" scenario eventually arrives for Lena instead, for example, her musical/model career takes off. I don't mind spoilers. Thanks again.

You get railroaded into problems with Seymour no matter what choices you make. Along with some Ian/Lena/Holly trifecta weirdness on the book-fair route, it's one of a very few plot-points in the game where Eva forces the player's hand to a greater extent than usual. I assume these are several plot-points she planned as pivotal regardless of what route you're on.

So go ahead and score some cash from Seymour. Just don't slut it up too much at the shoots if you want Lena to retain some personal agency by the end of the current content.

Stalkerfap: Hard to say yet. I think mainly it just makes her more lewd and opens up more sex possibilities, so far at least. Probably also required for the obligitory future porn path and for the Ed path if that one ever happens. But there could be other consequences coming. The only other negative I can foresee so far is plenty more of that godawful horny/wicked tongue-bite expression that Eva seems to think communicates sexiness in lewd scenes. (It doesn't. Far worse than Ahegao face).

 

[Canto Forte]

Lena is a girl getting hit on everywhere she goes.
She does not need Axel, who is violent with her on a day by day basis
and the asshole, just like Jeremy is a whoremonger,
they work their assets right, the money or the natural trope of their complexion.
They are manipulative and gropey and molesting girls,
also the fact that players get to push Lena into the assholes and this game
makes her forget what they are because of their sex is a trope in itself.

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Replay Lena's dates with Ian where she tells him about their relationship, as well as the very prologue where she's crying in the alley. That scene takes place chronologically before Axel's shenanigans with Cherry. Relationships are built on more than sex.

I just replayed it... she didn't break up with him at that point, they just had a minor argument. According to Lena in this sequence she says "But it's nothing really serious", and then she leaves Ian and goes back to Axel who is waiting for her in a car. She broke up with Axel because of Cherry. Period. She says that she liked it rough with Axel. Period.

The point is, someone claimed that Axel was abusive to her, and that is quit simply not true. Yeah, they had minor relationship problems, who doesn't. but it wasn't enough for her to leave him and the rough sex was not a problem for her, SHE SAID SO!!! SHE SAID SHE LIKED THAT ABOUT HIM! What she didn't like was him FUCKING ANOTHER WOMAN, which makes sense, and that is why she left him. Period. She says so. I don't get how you totally ignore what the game actually says and insert your own ideas?!

She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false. Maybe they had other normal, minor (according to Lena) problems as most relationships do, but she liked the rough sex, so it wasn't abuse and she left him because he cheated... that's what the game clearly states.

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no,jill is not a slut, but a rich spoiled virgin who has never worked a day in her life while lena has 2 jobs to make ends and then again gives money to her parents for her father s cancer,and in connection with ian,he just can't get his ex girlfriend out his mind, what problems does DIK mc struggle with??

Lena has no problems, just stuff in her head about how to give into assholes left and right.
Just like Lena only meets Ian half way through and she would have to actively reject
a number of assholes up until then, Jill has not found anyone to bring to her friends with
marriage potential until the before last update where MC is introduced and they go bang.

Good things are worth the wait and pretty much like Lena is getting hit on hard everywhere,
by assholes no less, Jill has been living with the hitting asshole most of her life,
the water mellon guy.

 

[soprano31]

Lena is a girl getting hit on everywhere she goes.
She does not need Axel, who is violent with her on a day by day basis
and the asshole, just like Jeremy is a whoremonger,
they work their assets right, the money or the natural trope of their complexion.
They are manipulative and gropey and molesting girls,
also the fact that players get to push Lena into the assholes and this game
makes her forget what they are because of their sex is a trope in itself.




Lena has no problems, just stuff in her head about how to give into assholes left and right.
Just like Lena only meets Ian half way through and she would have to actively reject
a number of assholes up until then, Jill has not found anyone to bring to her friends with
marriage potential until the before last update where MC is introduced and they go bang.

Good things are worth the wait and pretty much like Lena is getting hit on hard everywhere,
by assholes no less, Jill has been living with the hitting asshole most of her life,
the water mellon guy.

no one says that jill has to live there with tybalt,that she is going to work or at least has the character to stand up for her own,look at josy!!and marriage potential??do you really think mc DIK thinks about that?

 

[Canto Forte]

IF you are a DIK you do not get any of that ... Jill shuts you down early.

DIK thinks about that

Nobody is making Lena sleep where she does,
with the girl Remy cheats on and the perv,
either. She got friends and her not moving in with any of the assholes
gamers can push her into is just bad form and another game trope.

 

[soprano31]

IF you are a DIK you do not get any of that ... Jill shuts you down early.



Nobody is making Lena sleep where she does,
with the girl Remy cheats on and the perv,
either. She got friends and her not moving in with any of the assholes
gamers can push her into is just bad form and another game trope.

that lena does it with jeremy,louisse,or whoever she chooses,what real decisions did jill ever have to make in her life?and what kind of REAL friends does lena have??

 

[Canto Forte]

You can play Ian into one for starters,
Keep it chill and not engage with Ivy, so she stays loyal but does not walk away,
Lena could be Hols friend if you play Ian loyal,
making this wholesome: Lena is happy with Ian exclusive, banging her guitar,
writing her poems and songs, Ian writing his novel,
while Eva kan keep piling on the hurt all she wants on top of them for drama and such.

REAL friends

Jill could have married the water mellon guy ages ago for one,
like Lena could go back to Axel, as he be the more socialite of the assholes,
is well connected and could slap seymour around or keep him at bay for least.

Lena is pushed into small sex return from her asshole connections,
but all she needs is to stay true to her wild immagination
and sticking to her songs and poems rather than the bangs.

 

[soprano31]

You can play Ian into one for starters,
Keep it chill and not engage with Ivy, so she stays loyal but does not walk away,
Lena could be Hols friend if you play Ian loyal,
making this wholesome: Lena is happy with Ian exclusive, banging her guitar,
writing her poems and songs, Ian writing his novel,
while Eva kan keep piling on the hurt all she wants on top of them for drama and such.


Jill could have married the water mellon guy ages ago for one,
like Lena could go back to Axel, as he be the more socialite of the assholes,
is well connected and could slap seymour around or keep him at bay for least.

Lena is pushed into small sex return from her asshole connections,
but all she needs is to stay true to her wild immagination
and sticking to her songs and poems rather than the bangs.

ok,that she stay true to the music and songs,instead of casual sex ,i agree with you!!but axell,the most social one and connected?that is also an example of being played by seymour,someone who thinks he can get away with anything!!

 

[EdinsonAckerman]

one of the best vn I've ever played. Looking forward to the new chapter

 

[Canto Forte]

That was the parallel of Lena and Jill having been with assholes and resisting them.
Like Alex, the water mellon guy is loaded and connected,
they are both in the ilk of Seymour and both can and would scheme/openly oppose
someone like Sey if he tried anything.

Jill and Lena both have choices of assholes who are rich and connected,
if they wanted a secure carefree life only catering to them being taken care of
and their boys getting their rocks off, money no object and protection from other asssholes.

axell,the most social one and connected

The girls could have a good life, Jill keeping her status quo, her water mellon guy
just a whack couple of dates guy who prances around as her BF, while she and Bells mock him,
MC can still just be a date or two for her if you do not want her,
while Lena you could essentially make her drop into any lap you want her to fall onto.

one of the best vn I've ever played. Looking forward to the new chapter

Gaming for the dual MC thrill? Wishing for more Lena good girl or bad girl paths?
Played Ian a good catch? Ian the Remy apprentice crass asshole bang and forget guy?
Trying to cater to the MCs as a couple and making their lives the best you can?
What is the deffining attraction in this?

 

[BloodyMares]

She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false.

That's why I said "depending on your definition of abuse". Who ever said he was physically abusing her? He was abusing her mentally with his dickish attitude caused by jealousy and the need to be in control of everything. Just because Lena says "It's not a big deal" doesn't mean it's the truth if she's actually crying alone in some dark corner and vents about it to a complete stranger. When Cindy goes to cry due to her argument with Wade, then he's a terrible boyfriend, but it's okay that Axel did the same thing to Lena, more than once, making her feel miserable? Axel is a controlling, manipulative asshole, and Lena was facing that side of him constantly, only temporarily ignoring it when he was fucking her good, sending her in a better mood. Cheating is bad, but that alone is not enough to cut all ties to the point of closing all communication and moving away. Cheating was the final nail ON TOP of his controlling, manipulative, asshole, and sometimes even scary behavior in front of other people. The way he attacked Robert and almost attacked Ian, the way he tried to learn Lena's location from her parents, it's not something new to him that Lena's breakup did to him. That's simply who he is, who he was even while being together with Lena. And she was not blind to this, she just thought that positives could outweigh the negatives, that she could make it work. Same way Cindy is always trying to think that her relationship with Wade is not doomed, that she can do something to reignite the spark.

But then that story with Cherry happened and all that false hope vanished in an instant. The relationship with him was simply not worth fighting for, and that was the final push that Lena needed to finally free herself from that toxic dysfunctional relationship. His cheating with Cherry is not the reason behind the break up with him. It was an excuse.

 

[CoalPhelps]

I just replayed it... she didn't break up with him at that point, they just had a minor argument. According to Lena in this sequence she says "But it's nothing really serious", and then she leaves Ian and goes back to Axel who is waiting for her in a car. She broke up with Axel because of Cherry. Period. She says that she liked it rough with Axel. Period.

The point is, someone claimed that Axel was abusive to her, and that is quit simply not true. Yeah, they had minor relationship problems, who doesn't. but it wasn't enough for her to leave him and the rough sex was not a problem for her, SHE SAID SO!!! SHE SAID SHE LIKED THAT ABOUT HIM! What she didn't like was him FUCKING ANOTHER WOMAN, which makes sense, and that is why she left him. Period. She says so. I don't get how you totally ignore what the game actually says and insert your own ideas?!

She absolutely didn't leave Axel because he was physically abusive, which was what someone else implied and it blatently false. Maybe they had other normal, minor (according to Lena) problems as most relationships do, but she liked the rough sex, so it wasn't abuse and she left him because he cheated... that's what the game clearly states.

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With all due respect, this is complete bullshit. At the end of Chapter 5, if Lena confides in Ian, she talks about her relationship with Axel: "Jealousy, insecurities, unfair demands and expectations... At the beginning things were great, but as our relationship progressed they get more turbulent and, well... Toxic. And then I learned he had been cheating on me... That was the final nail in the coffin. It was horrible. Especially considering all he was demanding from me. All his trust issues... And it turned out he was the one not to be trusted."

You're referring to the Prologue, where Lena is still under abusive and still afraid of Axel (saying she doesn't know what she wants anymore). And most importantly, in the same scene in Chapter 5, she says that... broke up shortly after talking to Ian. Ta-dah! So much for a nothing serious, huh?

Lena was not physically but mentally abused because Axel suspected her of cheating at every turn and apparently forbade her much out of mistrust, quite possibly spying on her. These are not normal relationship problems at all, unless you consider it the norm because so many girls get into relationships with abusers. So obviously she was unhappy with the relationship even before the cheating and that was just the last straw, not the catalyst for the breakup. Lena was under tremendous pressure, but thought he would at least be true to his words. And when that turned out not to be the case, she realized that he was not the image she had fallen in love with.

And I find it interesting that you think Wade is a horrible sexist who mistreats Cindy by not wanting to go to a posh bar or club, and Axel is a good boy who only made innocent relationship mistakes, and that he was suspicious and controlling of her, well, that's just minor Potterian pranks.

Axel is a deeply insecure sociopathic boy who is always needing to assert himself, to be the center of attention and to know that he is loved and appreciated, but who himself is hardly capable of loving in the normal sense of the word. For him "love" consists in complete control over the actions of his partner, whom he believes he fully possesses.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Holy Shit, there are the wildest arguments going on in this comment section. That one guy is right. I guess it is what happens when there is no new content in about a year.

 

[CoalPhelps]

...but then Lena automatically began posting some crazier stuff...

What do you mean by "automatically?" You can choose the degree of Lena's devotion to Stalkfap. You can take Ivy's advice and post more and more lewd content, or you can keep posting tasteful nudes. Same with Seymour, by the way, the degree to which Lena is "devoted" to him and how she behaves on his shoots depends on the choises.

 

[CoalPhelps]

 

[Doppelgang]

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Also art

 

[RoboticCatDogHybrid]

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I see your a man of culture...

 

[Mr. Muscles]

What do you mean by "automatically?" You can choose the degree of Lena's devotion to Stalkfap. You can take Ivy's advice and post more and more lewd content, or you can keep posting tasteful nudes. Same with Seymour, by the way, the degree to which Lena is "devoted" to him and how she behaves on his shoots depends on the choises.

Regarding Stalkfap, she automatically picks the photos she wants to post at one point, at least that's what happened to me. It's one thing to have X and Y picture, it's another to post them. But I guess that's the way Eva decided to pull off these scenes. Now I know what I can change and how in my next playthrough. Kind of the same thing with Seymour, there's moments when the game just takes your hand off it based on previous choices in a particular moment, once again, it's how Eva chose to go ahead with things. I was already surprised at the start with the amount of agency this game has when compared to others, so I was even more surprised when the game assumed things for you. It's fine tho, it's how it is built. Now that I have a larger understanding of how the game works, I'll do what I intend the most in the future.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Only real debate that matters is if your a Tits or Ass guy? bros. Am i right, or am i right.

It's best when it's both, but I'm definitely an assman, haha.

 

[_Zebra_]

Regarding Stalkfap, she automatically picks the photos she wants to post at one point, at least that's what happened to me. It's one thing to have X and Y picture, it's another to post them. But I guess that's the way Eva decided to pull off these scenes. Now I know what I can change and how in my next playthrough. Kind of the same thing with Seymour, there's moments when the game just takes your hand off it based on previous choices in a particular moment, once again, it's how Eva chose to go ahead with things. I was already surprised at the start with the amount of agency this game has when compared to others, so I was even more surprised when the game assumed things for you. It's fine tho, it's how it is built. Now that I have a larger understanding of how the game works, I'll do what I intend the most in the future.

Using the butplug is another similar situation. You never get to pick if you want to explore things further or not. Also, you can't create a scenario in which Lena is more vanilla, she sees Ian as a potential long term partner so she refrains from showing a kinkier side until they are in a relationship. Sometimes girls do that, they don't want to put themself in a potential bad light. Oh, I barely met her and she already let's me sleep with her without a condom and I can also have her ass. She probably did this with a lot of guys. I will have my fun with her, but certainly she's not "wife material".

I have a play through where Ian was shy and Lena didn't push things in any way. They went on a few dates, they kissed, Ian got a bj from Lena when she visited his room and in ch7 (i think) they had sex for the first time ... without a condom. Another date and Lena goes: hey, do you want to try my ass. Now imagine how this scenario would play out if each sex scene would be placed in a separate file. You could just pick to show the scene from ch 3 or 4, sometime in chapter 7. The art would fit the scene better and probably the text would too. Of course, you will have to hide some things that maybe were already discussed. But in the same time, you would work less when you write the scenes found in ch5,6,7. There is no need to think, what if this is their first time, let me write a few lines for that in order to cover that scenario.