VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[dolfe67]

I know the reason the patrons chose their vote. It is a viable opinion, but also a navelgazing one, since it in no way helps Eva gaining further players from the audience.
There is a difference between the inside PoV and the outside PoV, especially how you create and maintain interest in your game. The patrons have a lot of info and therefor knew that the chapter will one day be done. People from the wider audience looking in and NOT having such information will think again if they really want to try out ORS. Because from a distance this game is near death. Way overdue update, a rework which was even debatted among the fanbase if it was needed, the shortsighted decision to keep wanting a full chapter by the patrons (despite the Ian part alone being quite meaty)...

There are psychological steps, borderlines, however you want to name it, what you consider long or short, high or low, thick or thin. Having the Ian part out would have meant a psychological "update date" of about 4-6 months, depending if when it would have come out. For a majority of players that is absolutely okay.
But now we have a psychlogical update date of 8 months at best and considering the Lena part is still written it could become longer. Not to think about the people who go by new material, where the still pending update is by over a devastating full year.

That is nothing but burning bridges of interest!

Why do you care about her business? Are you her manager? She earns more than the average income of her players (especially the stingy pirates), she doesn't need more growth, it's only a bonus.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

L&P is the maker of AWAM. Great potential, but the dev was overcome by his greed and is a liar extraordinaire. At current speed the end chapter would come in somewhere in the 2050s, I kid you not! You can see how "realistic" it is that AWAM ever gets completed. But you have to give honour where it is due, L&P is like the Ratcatcher from Hameln, he is great at reeling in the stupid! Just take a look at the AWAM main thread, a veritable parallel universe.

Haha I remember, I tried it in 2018, and when I saw that nothing was happening there, I quit the game. It's funny, this game has been in development since the Ren'Py novels first came out. Real dinosaur. Around this time I met Eva Kiss and GGGB.

 

[BorgiaBou]

Haha I remember, I tried it in 2018

Haha i wonder which banned profile alt account you are...

 

[PurpleDude]

Why do you care about her business? Are you her manager?

Why do you care about what they care about? Are you their mom?
ORS buisness model could be tied to project future (somehow) and if someone cares about ORS i belive it is not illegal to be concerned with developer motivation.

 

[Turret]

Why do you care about her business? Are you her manager? She earns more than the average income of her players (especially the stingy pirates), she doesn't need more growth, it's only a bonus.

Counterquestion: Why are you generally opposed with your passive aggressiveness? Did I open your eyes to another view on the topic and are miffed at yourself for how you voted? I think a lot of those "I can wait" trumpeters are now regretting their vote, because they simply overlooked how long it would be going on. And that was easy to see! If the Ian part took this long and the Lena should be about the same length, it was absolutely clear that an update would come at year end at best!
It is not that they were not warned! And on the topic of money and interest generation, PurpleDude gave an answer which is nice, so I do not have to d so! Thanks!

 

[dolfe67]

ORS buisness model could be tied to project future (somehow) and if someone cares about ORS i belive it is not illegal to be concerned with developer motivation.

Sure but money don't buy motivation. You can be annoyed that she didn't release Ian's part first, but talking about the consequences on her business is futile, especially on a pirate forum.

 

[Turret]

but talking about the consequences on her business is futile, especially on a pirate forum.

When I read something like this or something in the same vein on other topics, I could start to retch! What happened to this world that so many people think that WHO says something is more important than WHAT is said????
How often today can one see the right and correct thing not done or screamed down because it came from what some idiots believe to be the "wrong" person! Far too often!

 

[boxeador23mg]

At this point shes just milking the game, and by the way things have been... early dec. my a**. Shes great at giving excuses and sometimes even repeats them. She will say the last lewd scene did not come out the way she liked it (or took longer then she expected), the last art touchups the same way ( 1 tone too dark and missing 1 pixel on the top bottom middle next to something). Oh and watch out for the end of the years classic excuses there's (thanksgiving, Christmas and new years)

 

[BloodyMares]

I usually just Unren for those skips in such a situation. Though I assume you're probably playing through full-text to check for errors not previously caught, too.

Exactly. If I can skip through text, I'm confident it's proofread. I try to pay close attention to dialogue that is new for me. And I really don't like wasting double the time doing the same thing I've done before.

 

[BloodyMares]

At this point shes just milking the game, and by the way things have been... early dec. my a**. Shes great at giving excuses and sometimes even repeats them. She will say the last lewd scene did not come out the way she liked it (or took longer then she expected), the last art touchups the same way ( 1 tone too dark and missing 1 pixel on the top bottom middle next to something). Oh and watch out for the end of the years classic excuses there's (thanksgiving, Christmas and new years)

So you're saying I'm finally free to pursue my own goals instead of wasting who knows how many hours of my life writing the guide and managing the game's quality?

 

[balvenie1401]

So you're saying I'm finally free to pursue my own goals instead of wasting who knows how many hours of my life writing the guide and managing the game's quality?

Turns out you've had that freedom all along, you just choose to neglect it..

 

[Sasarko99]

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Hello everyone,
Chapter 10 is finally getting close to being finished. I'm almost done with the writing, all that's left are a couple of scenes and a final, big lewd scene. This one is complex and it can take place with 3 different characters, so it will be challenging to write, but once that's done the writing will be complete. Lena's part of the script has already caught up in length with Ian's, and will surpass it, so in total this update will have the most density of content to date.
Other tasks that need to be completed are editing the artwork and then revising the script, implementing a few technical things, play-testing and bug-solving. Hopefully I haven't made too many mistakes and we can complete that part quickly. I'm not giving a specific date for the release because I can't confidently predict when everything will be 100% ready, but if everything goes smoothly the Alpha could be out by the end of November/start of December. I'll give you more detailed info in the next weekly update, as the finishing steps come together.
In the meanwhile, I'll show you what some characters have been up to during this time. Who's the one you're hoping to spend some time with in Chapter 10?

 

[Jibmeister]

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Hello everyone,
Chapter 10 is finally getting close to being finished. I'm almost done with the writing, all that's left are a couple of scenes and a final, big lewd scene. This one is complex and it can take place with 3 different characters, so it will be challenging to write, but once that's done the writing will be complete. Lena's part of the script has already caught up in length with Ian's, and will surpass it, so in total this update will have the most density of content to date.
Other tasks that need to be completed are editing the artwork and then revising the script, implementing a few technical things, play-testing and bug-solving. Hopefully I haven't made too many mistakes and we can complete that part quickly. I'm not giving a specific date for the release because I can't confidently predict when everything will be 100% ready, but if everything goes smoothly the Alpha could be out by the end of November/start of December. I'll give you more detailed info in the next weekly update, as the finishing steps come together.
In the meanwhile, I'll show you what some characters have been up to during this time. Who's the one you're hoping to spend some time with in Chapter 10?

I have always wondered why most VN's dont incorporate Social media feeds. I feel its good that ORS has it.

 

[JoJoPool]

Chapter 10 is probably good... and a few days afterwards its waiting for another 9-18 months for chapter 11.

Just thinking about that gives me depression

 

[PurpleDude]

So you're saying ...

 

[PurpleDude]

Sure but money don't buy motivation...

I feel you. As Karl Marx stated in his "Critique of the Gotha Programme" (1875) that at the high phase of communist society "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" principle can be applied.
Oh wait...

 

[dundun]

Sounds like two major lewd scenes were done in the last week, so it’s getting closer. Promising.

Gotta wonder what that final scene will be. As the game’s progressing, the last scene tends to be some sort of “grand finale”, so just another one of those scenes where you choose between Ian, Mike and Robert feels a bit too … bland. And besides, would that be considered one scene—or three?

I guess it could be something in the same genre as the after party at Ivy’s apartment, just taken a step further. As in not choosing in advance if you want to go on a date with character A, B, or C; but just one big event with large variations in the outcome. Like the model event with Billy, where also Ivy and Jeremy might be present.

Or it could be the former alternative, just with someone slightly more important for the bigger story than Robert. Like Ian, Axel or Seymour. Or something completely different. I’m mostly just guessing here.

Promising, indeed. Of course there is the specter of Ian's last scene which took her more than a month to complete.... But if this is indeed just another Ian/Mike/Robert scene that won't happen because they are straightforward and nothing meaningful happens. She just has to write it 3 times.
Axel and especially Seymour are unlikely because the uniqueness of their relationship. Axel is dominant and Seymour won't touch her. That wouldn't fit with other characters.
So this is probably the most likely but it that is too bland for you, yes, after the shot with Billy they might hang out in Blazer and meet Jeremy and Mike there. Then Lena could decide whom to take home.
But lets dream big. What about Lena and Ian are on the experimenting path and decide to experiment together. Sure happened a lot in GGGB. They could choose between Robert, Mike and Jeremy? Or, who knows, Ivy, Louise and Emma?
OK, Lena would have to somehow get over her trauma of being cheated on but at some time she has to loosen up.

 

[Doppelgang]

Promising, indeed. Of course there is the specter of Ian's last scene which took her more than a month to complete.... But if this is indeed just another Ian/Mike/Robert scene that won't happen because they are straightforward and nothing meaningful happens. She just has to write it 3 times.
Axel and especially Seymour are unlikely because the uniqueness of their relationship. Axel is dominant and Seymour won't toucher her. That wouldn't fit with other characters.
So this is probably the most likely but it that is too bland for you, yes, after the shot with Billy they might hang out in Blazer and meet Jeremy and Mike there. Then Lena could decide whom to take home.
But lets dream big. What about Lena and Ian are on the experimenting path and decide to experiment together. Sure happened a lot in GGGB. They could choose between Robert, Mike and Jeremy? Or, who knows, Ivy, Louise and Emma?
OK, Lena would have to somehow get over her trauma of being cheated on but at some time she has to loosen up.

Yeah, my idea of an Ian/Axel/Seymour alternative was more a scenario where all of them want to meet her, alone, and are unaware about the others. And then she'll have to choose one of them. It was first and foremost an example of a choice with broader consequences than if Robert (and Mike) was among them.

But the experimenting relationship is actually a good guess. *Speculation mode* If they’re exclusive, it’s just Ian and Lena. But if they’re experimenting, it could involve a choice to bring in either a guy—let’s say Jeremy—or a girl—let’s say Emma or Ivy. It would make sense to have a scene like that after the events of the last chapter.

*Turns the speculation mode to 10* And then chapter 11 will cover the moment when Alison finds out that NOT ONLY did Ian ditch her for THE MODEL, but JEREMY did too, for A GODDAMN THREESOME, when it was HER they were supposed to have a threesome with. It will be a bloodbath. Chapter 12 to 20 will just be the post-apocalyptic aftermaths.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Just thinking about that gives me depression

Honestly, I just want to play the damn thing even if it is disappointing or whatnot. I'll be sure to try out all the different routes and whatnot. Then, I'll be fine for the next 2 years before Chapter 11 is out.

 

[PervySageKem]

So you're saying I'm finally free to pursue my own goals instead of wasting who knows how many hours of my life writing the guide and managing the game's quality?

The walkthrough is actually the most important thing in this thread (excluding the links xD).

It's what allows us to view the content we want at our own leisure. You are a Saint for doing it.

I usually try out most of the routes either way, but without good Walkthroughs doing that is a pain in the ass. I don't like the game aspect of these stories, I'm in it for the plot and the """action""". I just want to experience my prefered story without having to think, and guys like you are the ones that allow that.

Thanks, man.