VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Ir0n Ma1den]

I get the opinion that Cidny would cheat on Wade with or without Ian. I felt a little bit Guilty for Ian to cheat with his Friends GF, but after learning how shitty of person cidny is, I wouldn't doubt that either axel or some other guy would have banged her.

I prefer Alison to cidny, but CHAD Ian decided to break up with her insted having her as a fling( Big mistake), I only banged her because I love blondes. but every encounter between Ian and Cidny makes me cringe hard, they are soo diffrent from each other, literally pollar extreams, Wade as a man better looking then Ian(Though Ian is taking care of himself, goes to the gym, displays confidence and is winning both as a writer(Though I think he will lose if he is with Lena since Seymur defintly won't give him a pass).

Im in the opinion that this game deserves a better blonde thicc chick to replace Cidny.

 

[tchooi86]

Seems like Stan is going to hang with lena and holly

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Seems like Stan is going to hang with lena and holly

Seems like Stan is going to commit a mass shooting and turn Lena in to a lamp shade.

 

[negeb18]

y? no chapter 11 gallery

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

I get the opinion that Cidny would cheat on Wade with or without Ian. I felt a little bit Guilty for Ian to cheat with his Friends GF, but after learning how shitty of person cidny is, I wouldn't doubt that either axel or some other guy would have banged her.

I prefer Alison to cidny, but CHAD Ian decided to break up with her insted having her as a fling( Big mistake), I only banged her because I love blondes. but every encounter between Ian and Cidny makes me cringe hard, they are soo diffrent from each other, literally pollar extreams, Wade as a man better looking then Ian(Though Ian is taking care of himself, goes to the gym, displays confidence and is winning both as a writer(Though I think he will lose if he is with Lena since Seymur defintly won't give him a pass).

Im in the opinion that this game deserves a better blonde thicc chick to replace Cidny.

Bro hates Cindy so much he doesn't even bother to write her name properly lmao.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

First, thanks for making a list of all information. Second, some corrections
A year ago Gillian left for her hometown planning to finding a job here (in Baluart) and then return. She cheated on Ian after leaving, or at least he only found out then. He and Alison talk about it in chapter 5:
a "She went back to her hometown after finishing her master's degree, right?"
i "Yeah... She was supposed to find a job here and come back, but then, that happened..."

Hol up, I'm confused.

So Gillian left her hometown to find work at Baluart, then she returned to her hometown again. Presumably, Ian found out about her affair after she's already back at her hometown.

Is that correct?

 

[fishbrain]

When Lena says she needs time to Stan, she mentions hanging out next week. Is it reading into it too much to say that there won't be stan content in full chapter 11? Since this prologue is part of ch 11?

Not necessarily, I don't know the likelihood of a shoot in consecutive updates but they do live together so at least some good conversation hopefully. As I mentioned in my play she's hasn't been with any other guys and getting antsy.. I can envision her sneaking into Stan's room for a little nighttime fun. A little sleep sex role reversal compared to every other game here. LOL

No I don't expect that to happen.. Yet.

 

[kishanth1234]

Gonna quote myself, but:



To get this branch Lena also has to invite Stan to do the photoshoot for her, in Ch.10

i have done all that and nothing happens broski

 

[jollyjoker27]

Just a pity that the Goddess Cindy was missing in this episode.

True, but at least we got this little info re: Wildcat Models to look forward to. Haven`t seen it mentioned, yet.

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

I get the opinion that Cidny would cheat on Wade with or without Ian. I felt a little bit Guilty for Ian to cheat with his Friends GF, but after learning how shitty of person cidny is, I wouldn't doubt that either axel or some other guy would have banged her.

I prefer Alison to cidny, but CHAD Ian decided to break up with her insted having her as a fling( Big mistake), I only banged her because I love blondes. but every encounter between Ian and Cidny makes me cringe hard, they are soo diffrent from each other, literally pollar extreams, Wade as a man better looking then Ian(Though Ian is taking care of himself, goes to the gym, displays confidence and is winning both as a writer(Though I think he will lose if he is with Lena since Seymur defintly won't give him a pass).

Im in the opinion that this game deserves a better blonde thicc chick to replace Cidny.

Cindy seems to be having a mid-life crisis, despite her being only 25 or whatever she is. Unhappy with her job, disappointed by her live-in boyfriend, and looking for something in her life that can offer her excitement and an outlet for her creative "passion," she would probably be tempted to cheat on Wade with anyone who provided those things. Ian and Axel happen to be well-placed to deliver some thrills and their artistic/creative activities appeal to her. I don't think any of that makes Cindy a "shitty" person, or at least no shittier than Wade or Ian or Axel. Wade clearly has zero interest in sustaining a successful adult life and partnership with Cindy--witness his year-long jobless stint in which his only ambition is to compete in unpaid gaming tournaments, and he begrudgingly joins Cindy in nights out.

Ian's affair with Cindy is particularly sad because if discovered, it will not only destroy Wade and Cindy's relationship, it threatens to torpedo the whole friend group. But Wade and Cindy are sabotaging their own relationship, which appears doomed regardless of what Ian does. Given how young Wade and Cindy are and the fact that they've only been together a few years, the fact that they are struggling so much signifies that they are a bad match and that a breakup would be best for both of them.

 

[Doppelgang]

What other earlier comments of EvaKiss about Gillian are you referring? In the 3 Q&As all she wrote was that 'Gilllian has a role to play'.

i just have a memory that she at one point suggested that Gillian was unlikely to turn up in person, but I can't say if that was in another Patreon post, on Discord, or if it was just some vague quote that I and/or someone else might have misinterpreted. So maybe I'm wrong. Anyway I guess that existing or non-existing comment is of less importance now.

I don't see it being narratively interesting. Yes, Lena getting Mike to cheat as she has been cheated on is interesting but for that it doesn't matter that his girlfriend is Ian's ex. Why would she care about that? Ian would be cuckolded twice by Mike, but he doesn't know Mike at all so why would he care who his girlfriends cheat with? There are no emotions connected to it, it makes no difference to Lena or Ian if Mike's girlfriend is Gillian or not. It would just be a weird coincidence.

I don't think Lena cares about Ian's girlfriend or Mike's ex, regardless of whether they're the same person or not. But with the strong emotions both Ian and Lena have about the cheating they've experienced, I definitely think Gillian being Mike's girlfriend would add another layer to it all, which Eva could use in a number of ways.

Lena is good at justifying it to herself when she does something she knows she shouldn't do, like cheating on Ian with Mike. But if Gillian turns out to be Mike's girlfriend, it would make it impossible to ignore that what Lena's doing is comically identical to what Gillian did. And she knows how much and how long he has struggled because of that. If she still continues the affair with Mike, how would it play out? Lena's already thashtalking Mike's girlfriend to spice things up in the bedroom—would Ian get the same role? After all, they now have "proof" that he's so inferior to Mike that no less than two of his girlfriends have cheated with him.

And maybe Ian wouldn't care about who his girlfriends cheat with if he was completely rational and confident in himself, but he's not. Let's say Gillian is Mike's girlfriend; that Lena and Ian are in a relationship; that Lena gave Mike a blowjob at Ivy's birthday party; and that Ian and Gillian have a talk in chapter 11 about what happened between them. In that scenario Ian is bound to find out who Mike is sooner or later … and maybe also remember him as the same guy Lena came out from the club with, after Ian had left her horny on the dance floor. I think that's more than enough to make Ian's mind start to wander. (Does Lena know him too? If so, how? Did she dance with him like she did with me moments before? Has she ever had sex with him, now or in the past? Should I ask her about all of this the next time she's giving me a handjob?)

Ian's already stressing himself out (or turning himself on) by comparing himself to other guys and worrying about falling short. Jeremy is easy-going and doesn't make a big deal about anything relating to women, and he's also got a monster cock. Axel is the übermensch ex-boyfriend he for obvious reasons feels inferior to. There's also the "threat" that the Stalkfap horndogs represent. Hell, he's even worried about the useless piece of shit that is Robert. It could be similar with Mike even if Gillian isn't his girlfriend, but it would add significantly more fuel to it if it was the case.

Also, sorry about going on about this, but in the last Q&A EvaKiss wrote about Mike's girlfriend:
I'd like to develop that side of Mike's story more, but right now the focus is elsewhere.
But she wrote about Gillian:
Gillian still has a role to play in all of this
That doesn't sound like she is talking about the same girl. Ten days later she announced the prologue with the writing 75% done. I doubt she decided that Gillian should appear now in this 10 days, after all having a cliffhanger was the whole idea.

Well, this we agree on, because I still don't think Gillian is Mike's girlfriend, I was just writing about it as a "what if". And you're right that it doesn't sound like she's talking about the same girl here.

 

[bauman]

I hope Eva plans to give the option for Ian to beat up Wade and tell Perry that he fucked Emma in the ass. It would be perfect for an asshole run. PERFECT.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

I don't think any of that makes Cindy a "shitty" person, or at least no shittier than Wade or Ian or Axel.

Many call her shitty because she's selfish and unbelievably petty when things don't go her way. This has been discussed several times on why Cindy is in the wrong more than Wade. You can look it up if you want, but it'll take some digging.

Given how young Wade and Cindy are and the fact that they've only been together a few years, the fact that they are struggling so much signifies that they are a bad match and that a breakup would be best for both of them.

I think they're just separated if wade_cindy is 2 points, but yeah, it'll be hard for them to patch things up when both are unwilling to meet halfway.

 

[ffive]

I don't see it being narratively interesting. Yes, Lena getting Mike to cheat as she has been cheated on is interesting but for that it doesn't matter that his girlfriend is Ian's ex. Why would she care about that?

Lena might potentially care that her dream guy turns out to be someone who has harmed her friend. Much like she can potentially care that Jeremy is being a shit "boyfriend" to her friend Louise. The identity of Mike's girlfriend isn't the focus here, but discovering new aspect of Mike's personality is.

Ian would be cuckolded twice by Mike, but he doesn't know Mike at all so why would he care who his girlfriends cheat with? There are no emotions connected to it, it makes no difference to Lena or Ian if Mike's girlfriend is Gillian or not. It would just be a weird coincidence.

I disagree; it's in human nature to look for patterns and find significance in them, so learning that not one but two of his girlfriends both cheated on him and/or left him for the same guy can compound already high emotions of learning the person you've trusted betrayed this trust.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

I hope Eva plans to give the option for Ian to beat up Wade and tell Perry that he fucked Emma in the ass. It would be perfect for an asshole run. PERFECT.

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Yes please!

 

[Doppelgang]

I disagree; it's in human nature to look for patterns and find significance in them, so learning that not one but two of his girlfriends both cheated on him and/or left him for the same guy can compound already high emotions of learning the person you've trusted betrayed this trust.

This is the tl;dr version of my unnecessary detailed argument posted right before

 

[ffive]

i have done all that and nothing happens broski

"Nothing happens" doesn't tell me anything. Is the option to "talk about it" disabled, or what? Maybe you've messed up and are getting completely different dialogue branch altogether.

 

[Triactus]

Cindy seems to be having a mid-life crisis, despite her being only 25 or whatever she is. Unhappy with her job, disappointed by her live-in boyfriend, and looking for something in her life that can offer her excitement and an outlet for her creative "passion," she would probably be tempted to cheat on Wade with anyone who provided those things. Ian and Axel happen to be well-placed to deliver some thrills and their artistic/creative activities appeal to her. I don't think any of that makes Cindy a "shitty" person, or at least no shittier than Wade or Ian or Axel. Wade clearly has zero interest in sustaining a successful adult life and partnership with Cindy--witness his year-long jobless stint in which his only ambition is to compete in unpaid gaming tournaments, and he begrudgingly joins Cindy in nights out.

Ian's affair with Cindy is particularly sad because if discovered, it will not only destroy Wade and Cindy's relationship, it threatens to torpedo the whole friend group. But Wade and Cindy are sabotaging their own relationship, which appears doomed regardless of what Ian does. Given how young Wade and Cindy are and the fact that they've only been together a few years, the fact that they are struggling so much signifies that they are a bad match and that a breakup would be best for both of them.

I completely agree with this. I wouldn't call it a ''mid-life'' crisis per se, more of an identity crisis. I get the feeling she rushed into the life she wanted, or what she thought was expected of her (steady job, boyfriend, appartment), but is starting to realize she never really asked herself what she truly wanted. The same thing basically happened to me when I finished college and all those things I wanted to do ''when I will be older'', well I was in it and had no clue how to go about it. I certainly empatize with her helplessness.

As for Cindy and Wade's relationship, there's nothing to destroy. It's already dead, they just don't realize it. They've drifted apart, and Wade has shown no indication that he wants to save the relationship or even work for it. He doesn't care about Cindy, and only focuses on his needs. That imaturity has doomed their relationship. I completly get that Cindy feels caged in the sense that she wants to explore, do things, but she's being held back. Their break-up will probably be a reality check for Wade and hopefully, will push him to grow up. Though I agree, lines will be drawn in the group of friends if Ian's affair with Cindy is discovered. But in the long run, it will be better for everyone.

Would Cindy cheat with Wade with anyone? I don't know, but it's probable. She's in a fragile state and will embrace anyone that shows her how her life could be different. Manipulative assholes like Axel are also a danger for her, in her current state.

 

[Xupuzulla]

I hope Eva plans to give the option for Ian to beat up Wade and tell Perry that he fucked Emma in the ass. It would be perfect for an asshole run. PERFECT.

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Accepting the Perry call when Emma is sucking Ian off is one best part of the game.

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Many call her shitty because she's selfish and unbelievably petty when things don't go her way. This has been discussed several times on why Cindy is in the wrong more than Wade. You can look it up if you want, but it'll take some digging.

I've seen most of those posts, I think. Cindy does come across as spoiled and petty, but I think our (this forum's) take is due more to the fact that we are dudes (most of us, anyway) and so more likely to side with Wade. I've played ORS through many times, as I'm sure many of you have, and so with a more dispassionate perspective now, I think Cindy is just more fed up so loses her temper more quickly, but we obviously aren't seeing any of the scenes of her and Wade at home that would show more of their dysfunction. Wade's response to their problems is just total boredom and lack of interest. Having been married for close to 30 years myself, I know that if I acted like I didn't give a shit that my wife was upset, that would only result in more upset, petty or otherwise. Wade already lost Cindy, is what I'm saying.