VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Doppelgang]

It is obvious that chapter 11 will be the only one released this year, so one chapter per year.

That's not obvious yet—it's possible, but way too early to say for certain. What is obvious, is that it's just dumb to claim that it would mean it's "one chapter per year". It would be one chapter in 2023, not per year. If it's released in June/July, which seems likely at this point, it's one chapter per seven months (with one mini chapter during that time as well), just like it was with the last update. But for some reason I suspect you'll find a way to disagree, and I don't have high hopes for the logic behind it.

 

[ArcherHades46]

A little more patience friends, it's nice that Eva understands the full extent of the pressure, be reasonable, obviously, she tries to make the game as comfortable as possible for us, both sexually and in other different paths. I think there will be dp, progress with Axel, Evie, Stan, Perry (hinted when Lera was in the shower) Maybe Billy's modeling agency. By the way, has anyone ever wondered? Where is a small repetition in the form of a gang, Wilson, for example, with drugs, Lera already has experience thanks to Ivy. I think there will be time to think about it and wonder if Eva wants to create a similar situation.

 

[ArcherHades46]

Summary:

- April 6 Update: 6 lewd scenes left to write
- April 29 Update: writer's block about writing two particular scenes
- May 16 Update: 3 lewd scenes left to write

It looks like a July/August release.

July maybe?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

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Hi guys,
This week has been rather rough and I've been having trouble progressing with the writing. It's been hard to focus and sort out all the complex variations in any given scene but, most of all, it's the pressure of development that's being hard to handle. I would've liked to be done with the update by now, and the longer I take to release it, the harder the pressure gets; dealing with long development cycles can really wear you down, especially when there's so much moving pieces and interconnected tasks to take care of. Thankfully I have help with the art and coding, but managing and coordinating people is not that easy and it's not something I have a knack for.

Not everything is bad news though; I've continued to work in the art and that's almost done. We've been also working in implementing a text messaging screen, since the display method that I had been using so far felt really lackluster. We have the screen working, now we have to implement it. I think it will add a lot to the immersion and overall presentation of the game.

Also, the 3 new backgrounds are done, and I'll add a fourth one, so quite a few new places to visit in this chapter. Any guesses?

Regarding the writing, I have left 3 major lewd scenes to write. Once I manage to push through those, I'll need to ensamble the chapter together, make sure everything works and then it'll be ready, so hopefully the release isn't far away. I really need to get this chapter out.
I understand if some of you are disappointed, and I thank the ones who keep supporting the development patiently. Status reports aren't coming out as consistently as they should, but I struggle to write them when I can't share good news, and I'm trying to save my mental energy to focus on the game itself. However, I'm happy that I can start showing some of the work that's been going on for the past few months. Again, thank you so much for your backing of this project, and I'll try to publish a chapter that keeps elevating the experience, even if I'm struggling more than I'd like to do it. My promise is to not disappoint you, and that's what I'm working towards.

Of course, this is not good news, we are unlikely to see an update in June, given the written release window, it is likely to be shifted to July, but at least the work is moving and there is not much left to complete.

But of course the comments that I often see here are not healthy behavior. Constant accusations of milking, and other mortal sins, desire to rush the developer, hysteria of some personalities - this doesn't lead to anything good. If the developer sees such posts, especially with hate it creates additional stress and can make development even more difficult, it just kills motivation. It becomes clear why many developers leave F95 and prefer their own Discord server for feedback, where they can better control the audience, and can avoid the toxic part of the fans.

Based on what was written, Eva herself doesn't like the delay in updating and she pushes herself and honestly writes about problems she faces in development. I myself hope to see an update as soon as possible.

As for the background, it's definitely Cherry's room. As we remember Cherry - the artist and canvases for paintings make this clear, but you can go even simpler, in the last status report this background was a monochrome contour sketch and the file was called "Cherry_room"

 

[Blurpee69]

I don't understand the accusations of "milking" on this site. This site is largely a pirate site, only a handful of developers post their work here for free. So there is no ground to stand on to accuse a developer of milking if you're not putting money towards the development process. And if you are a Patreon, why would you complain of milking here? Nothing is going to come of it on this site, make your irritation known on Patreon or their Discord or somewhere actually official from the developer so there is a proper channel of communication. And if for some reason that still doesn't net results pull the funding, and then the developer isn't milking you anymore, right? So we're back to where we started, no need to complain about milking.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

If someone looks too young to enter an adult establishment, checking their ID is just a logical thing to do. It's not like this hasn't happened in real life.

Better be safe than sorry.

I mean, yeah, but there are multiple choices in that scene which leads me to believe there will be a big reveal surrounding it. Or at least something that comes out of it. Why give the option for Lena to choose how old she think Holly is if it's just a one and done scene.

 

[fatpussy123]

I don't understand the accusations of "milking" on this site. This site is largely a pirate site, only a handful of developers post their work here for free. So there is no ground to stand on to accuse a developer of milking if you're not putting money towards the development process. And if you are a Patreon, why would you complain of milking here? Nothing is going to come of it on this site, make your irritation known on Patreon or their Discord or somewhere actually official from the developer so there is a proper channel of communication. And if for some reason that still doesn't net results pull the funding, and then the developer isn't milking you anymore, right? So we're back to where we started, no need to complain about milking.

You can point out that a dev is milking their supporters without you yourself being subject to the milking. A wrong is wrong even if it's not done to you.

I don't think Eva Kiss is milking, I think she genuinely is struggling to juggle the scope of the game, but that is a different from maliciously stalling a game's development. But just because it's not happening with ORS, doesn't mean it doesn't happen with other games.

It's true complaining doesn't do much, even though technically Eva Kiss does run this thread, I doubt she checks what we say. Sometimes people just want to voice their frustration or have discussions with like-minded folk, no reason to want to suppress that. Only problem is sometimes these topics can get a toxic.

 

[Mr. Muscles]

Mfs have been playing AVNs for free, for years, and still haven't gotten used to the cycles of waiting that comes with the genre

 

[IDoAThing]

Hi guys. Anyone can share a link to join Eva Kiss discord chat? I can't use the link in the main page. Thanks

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let me know if this works

 

[JohnnyKiss]

I like the changes done to Lena's face. Her eyes became more "anime-like".

 

[manscout]

I mean, yeah, but there are multiple choices in that scene which leads me to believe there will be a big reveal surrounding it. Or at least something that comes out of it. Why give the option for Lena to choose how old she think Holly is if it's just a one and done scene.

Holly had already told Lena how old she was before, if you choose the right age your Lena gains +1 wits, pick the wrong one and you don't. It is just gameplay.

 

[Blurpee69]

You can point out that a dev is milking their supporters without you yourself being subject to the milking. A wrong is wrong even if it's not done to you.

Yes, and it's fair to point out something that is inherently wrong. But, and hear me out here, what some might consider milking, is different from what others might. A site in which the vast majority of the user base does not put money towards a project, doesn't seem like a productive place to have a conversation about a dev milking their supporters.

 

[Turret]

You can point out that a dev is milking their supporters without you yourself being subject to the milking. A wrong is wrong even if it's not done to you.

I don't think Eva Kiss is milking, I think she genuinely is struggling to juggle the scope of the game, but that is a different from maliciously stalling a game's development. But just because it's not happening with ORS, doesn't mean it doesn't happen with other games.

Very much this! I estimate the member you answered with your post is one of those people popping up in (unfortunately) ever greater numbers who only go by who say/does something, not listening what is said or done!

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Even without someone pointing out the file name of the background I think we could all agree that it was Cherry's place more than likely. I saw someone mention Jess, but tbh, is she even a character big enough in the story to warrant a totally new background for? I just can't imagine going through the work and effort to only see it once or twice.

 

[SerHawkes]

The thing is, while some will naturally suspect Eva of 'milking', the reality is is that she continually is trying to push herself with progressing theses chapters and is setting her expected releases on deadlines that she puts on herself and tends to overwork herself trying to meet thoses deadlines. If she would just slow down her writing and not put a deadline she places on herself, take the time to fully branch out the characters and chapters without pressure on herself, we may see a better product of writing and storytelling.

BUT... that likely won't happen and Eva will more than likely go on a two month cocaine bender vacation after this update is releases, only to then start working on it and say 'how complex the story and branching is' or something form of complaint...

 

[BloodyMares]

I mean, yeah, but there are multiple choices in that scene which leads me to believe there will be a big reveal surrounding it. Or at least something that comes out of it. Why give the option for Lena to choose how old she think Holly is if it's just a one and done scene.

Here's some detail: Not all dialogue options lead to big consequences. Some of them are there just to help you farm stats. If your Lena remembers Holly's age, she is rewarded a Wits point. It is totally arbitrary (especially since you can simply look at her Agenda screen) but at least it has a purpose. And some options exist only for roleplaying purposes and don't have any consequences at all. It's not like it's a deadly sin to have those, all RPG games have occasional "Pick how you want to say the same thing" dialogues. And it's comparing Eva's game to AAA giants.

 

[Asmodean2]

Eva would save a lot of time if she would just focus on best girl Minerva, just saying....

 

[SerHawkes]

Eva would save a lot of time if she would just focus on best girl Ivy, just saying....

Your not wrong. Ivy is clearly the best girl. Deserves alone time with Ian though. Much love there.

 

[jimul18]

I have said it before and I will say it again, since this issue of writers block/overwork, inconsistent communication and an update cycle that can only be described tectonic drift like (and the response here is always the same; same accusations, same defense, same build up of frustration till the update followed by praise and an erasing of memories).

The real problem is the approach to the game, both in writing (gardening style) as well as task of juggling two narrative perspectives with overlapping choices. I am not saying that another approach will definitely be better, but it should be tried at least. Maybe have one of the characters go on vaction or fall into a coma (telenovella style) and release two updates one for each character to test if this is more feasible.

 

[ffive]

I am not saying that another approach will definitely be better, but it should be tried at least.

The previous game of the author (Good Girl Gone Bad) has used this approach. For this one the whole point was Eva Kiss wanted something different.