Xupuzulla

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Eva is evidently pulling it off* so i'd argue this is far from the case.

*) in a way i personally find satisfactory, ymmv ofc
Yeah i dont understand how people cant say shes not pulling it off.
Ok maybe chapter 11 was a bit weaker compared to the great chapter 10 but is still better content than most games in this site.
 
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Daken9

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I think what someone said a few pages back is the main reason, Eva's main audience came from GGGB and that game is a female protagonist game all about corruption, so Lena is favoured with her supporters.

Personally I really like both, but if I had to pick it'd be Ian
Which is weird to me, since some of my dislike for Lena comes from the other game's protagonist being way better. Like, apart from all the characters in her route boiling down to either dickheads or porn tropes (as opposed to the first game and Ian's route), her pre-established personality just complicates everything for no good reason. You either do what she would do, which is just boring because she's a boring nextdoor kinda girl, or you fight against it and just go with where the porn takes you, which turns her into a massive hypocritic who will take one second to think one thing and another to think the opposite.

A bit more of a blank slate like for Ian and the girl from the 1st game might have done the trick for me, but honestly what i really would've liked is if she'd started with a baseline personality more similar to that of her stripper friend. Would've been a proper shaking of the boat on the author's part, and if nothing else would've made for a way more interesting dynamic with Ian (since let's be real, game's ultimately about those two coming together but their relationship is just about the most sleeper in the game).
 

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Like, apart from all the characters in her route boiling down to either dickheads or porn tropes (as opposed to the first game and Ian's route)
Wait, what? How are Ashley's routes in the first game not boiling down to either dickheads or porn tropes (and sometimes both)? When if anything it's the first game that's recognized for going whole hog on porn tropes?
 

Canto Forte

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This game, as the previous, lets the victimizing hoe choose her next men to eat.

Lena has morals enough to leave cheating Axxel, but you will have to choose
if she will become a blow up doll cock sleeve back into his arms or not.

You can build Lena up as a badass who tells the macho men who wanna conquer her off,
or you can make a literal slave of her for Axxel and/or Seymour.

You have the option of turning her into a headless whore
with all kinds of controlling freaks hitting on her
and her giving into being their blow up doll ... or not.

Already Lena is a harem collector like that other cheating hoe in the GGG game:
She can whore herself to everyone male or female and loose any sort of believability.

You can only play Lena as a human being if you make some barriers into her psyche:
no ex, no sey, no work place harassment and no fkking the boss.

Once you can build up those deffenses into her, you can have a human being.

Otherwise, she is just a cock sleeve like the hoe in GGG.
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We can have a more ambitious and better GGGB without Ian. Having 2 MC is clearly too ambitious for a solo dev
It seems you just dont like the character of Ian. I dont like him and Lena as a couple, but the other routes are interesting enough. I think most can agree that Eva's writting here is much better than in GGGB. And Ian is a big part of the game... Take him out and you would downgrade the game for sure.
 

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For your next game please consider giving the main character (if he's male) a larger d*ck instead of a small weenie like Ian's...
Ohh shut it micro p . Ian is stated to be big multiple time , is he bigger than Jeremy ,no but he isn't small either.he is pretty much very well above avrg. (6-7inches) maybe?? And if u really want a horse cock go watch some beastality prn or something :) .
 

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Going by real world standards he is actually big, not average. Is just in porn that dick sizes are exaggerated.
Well yeah, Stan, Perry, and Robert are well hung studs compared to real life. Mike, Axel, and Jeremy would put a horse to shame. And Marcel might as well be an alien. Within the realm of the game though Ian is perfectly average.
 

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Going by real world standards he is actually big, not average. Is just in porn that dick sizes are exaggerated.
Actually it's all in the camera angle in porn like Johnny sins is like 6something inches but he appears to be bigger in porn videos . U would be surprised how big your Weiner would look from the right angle
 

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Which is weird to me, since some of my dislike for Lena comes from the other game's protagonist being way better. Like, apart from all the characters in her route boiling down to either dickheads or porn tropes (as opposed to the first game and Ian's route), her pre-established personality just complicates everything for no good reason. You either do what she would do, which is just boring because she's a boring nextdoor kinda girl, or you fight against it and just go with where the porn takes you, which turns her into a massive hypocritic who will take one second to think one thing and another to think the opposite.

A bit more of a blank slate like for Ian and the girl from the 1st game might have done the trick for me, but honestly what i really would've liked is if she'd started with a baseline personality more similar to that of her stripper friend. Would've been a proper shaking of the boat on the author's part, and if nothing else would've made for a way more interesting dynamic with Ian (since let's be real, game's ultimately about those two coming together but their relationship is just about the most sleeper in the game).
1. I honestly, feel Lena somewhat more interesting because she have more drama going on, and she's trying to survive thru it.
2. I agree on her route selection, The only people I liked her was with Ian and Holly.
3. Ashley had a bunch of dickheads but they shockingly has depth to them.
4. Ian is pretty much drama free unless you put him in it with banging most of the girls in your friend circle especially Cindy because that shit won't end well.
 

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For your next game please consider giving the main character (if he's male) a larger d*ck instead of a small weenie like Ian's...
On the threesome with Alison and Jeremy. He said Jeremy is bigger than me but Jeremy lack stamina while he didn't ended finishing Alison off.
 
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Seymour seems to come on good terms with Ian without evil smile even if Lena is not dancing to Seymour's finger:
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As I said before the alpha release of CH11, Lena satisfies her guilt of fucking Louise by bringing Louise to Ian's table and as expected Ian won't do shit cause he is getting what he desired and the price was Lena cheating on him with her GIRLDFRIENDS WHY? "bcz it can't be cheating if I'm fucking my GIRLDFRIENDS" and apparently another dick is not involved so he can tolerate this shit. Irony at it's peak when both are fucking cheated on and done breakups:
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Lena wouldn't have come clean if Ian didn't catch Mistress word from Louise's mouth So apparently Lena was CAUGHT she didn't come clean by her own will.
Now Lena has free pass to go rage mode on Ian if she learns that Ian has been fucking around with Cindy and others WHY? bcz Ian didn't satisfied his guilt by coming clean in front of her.:(
Ian should've more back bone to him. So much for "Our Red String" and it's consequences.

At least it served the purpose that Lena is bringing her GIRLDFRIENDS(IVY :love:) to Ian's Table:
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Going by real world standards he is actually big, not average. Is just in porn that dick sizes are exaggerated.
It's not even that. It's big in the games context as well. Just that Jeremy and Axel are bigger. Literally only two dudes are packing more.
 

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Just off the top of my head, the best friend, her boyfriend, and the party girl from the 1st all take a dump on Lena's cast in terms of not existing solely for the porn.
The best friend is, from what i remember, basically a device for a number of porn tropes and her entire presence boils down to who she's fucking at given moment -- her boyfriend, the MC, random assholes, black dudes, etc. Her boyfriend is similarly reduced to being cheated on by his gf, cheating on his gf along with MC, being cheated on by MC and/or being put in a hospital. The "party girl" i don't even know who that is referring to, that's how unique and memorable character she is. Do you mean younger sister of MC's bf who spends the entire game thirsting after a black dick, or the "here's a drug-addicted slutty college alpha bitch with a deep hidden heart of gold", absolutely not a done to death trope by any stretch?

Then there's the boss dude, who although a character introduced later on wasn't just some creepy fuck ala Seymour, and could arguably include even the tattoo guy in there, since altough a dickhead at the very least he was more well rounded and had more of an arc than blond creep or Mike.
Boss is, again, someone who doesn't ring any bells. The tattoo guy has a most basic arc that takes pretty much whole game to happen. While what we've got here is at half point. So comparing him to Axel or Mike is a bit too quick, they have lot of time to show similar level of development.

Hell, sleeziest bastard you can get with in the 1st is some cartel dude you need to get out of your way to even encounter
That's the sleeziest? Arthur sighs with naked relief.
 
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