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You are neither of these characters. Just like any author of a story isn't any of the characters, even though they explicitly control their actions and how the plot shapes out.
Ian can cheat on Lena, and Lena can cheat on Ian. Whether you personally self-insert in either of them is irrelevant.
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Lena be a MC doesn't disqualifie her storylines with Axel and also Seymour as NTR when she is in love and in a relationship with Ian since he is a MC too. Same way, Ian/Cindy and Ian/Alison while he is also in love and in a relationship with Lena also counts as NTR to Lena (and yes, female MC's can also be the "victims" of NTR).
I'd say that Ian/Cindy maybe isn't so much NTR as regular cheating, since it's not Cindy but Ian who plays the active role in this pairing and insists for it to continue, even if Cindy would rather stop it. It's similar to Lena/Mike in this regard, where it's Lena who pursues the relationship instead of Mike seducing her.
Ian/Alison, Lena/Axel and Lena/Seymour would definitely count, though.
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nahhh at this point you are cucking yourself thats not really ntr
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It is and the fact you self insert in the characters doesn't change that. The game not even was designed to make the players self insert in tha characters in the first place.
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its a fact that if you jerk off yourself YOU ARE NOT having sex mate
lena the main protagonist cheating is not ntrGoing with this logic the flagship relationship in this game, Lena/Ian pairing "isn't a relationship because you're a couple with yourself". And yet half of the game content is about it.its a fact that if you jerk off yourself YOU ARE NOT having sex mate
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technicly you are dating yourself
I mean if we take the point that self insert and mc role is not that important most harem game have cheating so all big games would have ntr because self insert is not that important so almost all games are ntr with that logic because they almost all have mc cheating on someone that would mean that all big harem game guys are into ntr
I... don't really understand this point. Yes, generally the harem games have what you'd consider cheating, that is the MC character sleeping with multiple partners while in relationship with each of these people. These games either ignore this aspect, or have the characters actually aware of such polygamy and okay with it.
But it's not considered NTR because MC character is the one who cheats, not the one being cheated on. In ORS you have a situation that MC is being cheated on, which falls under NTR. The fact that the character who cheats on them is (also) MC character is secondary here.
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WOAH WOAH WOAH... Thats plenty of reason for a copyright claim brother Vee... Because thats my meme manYou forgot my friend that this thread is on F95.
Let me remind you:
When it comes to NTR we want it avoidable not optional!
.Unfortunately it got deleted on a purge about NTR so... Its our meme now
. Lets hope it survives this time PS: I was going to post proof but I just figured out that you can change everything about a file (yes, even its date of creation
)Well... What you said isnt completely correct. In the F95 tags, theres no distinction between the different NTR types. So Netori (MC is the one who cheats) is still NTR
. Netorare is the generally called NTR though. Theres even Netorase too The Netory tag however is in the new tags post the mods put out not so long ago but its still not in use by my understanding (or devs/posters simply dont want to use it). So, soon the tag "NTR" isnt going to create these stupid differences
It's NTR and cheating (or netori in Ian/Cindy, Lena/Mike or Lena/Jeremy cases) at the same time, depending on which MC pov you choose.
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so you admit that its more like jerk off yourself than having sex?? because lena is the mc and she cheats on the mc but you are THE MC so you are cheating on yourself
I cant take lena/ian as ntr sorry
sure if it would be holly/ian , ian/cindy, alison/ian....... but we dont have this at the moment and maybe never will have unless they are single in this case it would also not be ntr if they can only be corruptet if they are single
I have no idea what would make you think this. I've already said what my personal view on this is -- i don't self-insert into the characters, so there's no distinction between these for me personally if any/all of them are player-controlled. It's characters having sex in any of these combinations.
I've mentioned the NTR/cheating in the context of how it's defined/perceived on this forum and the tag system it uses. For what's worth this system also doesn't appear to make any special rule if the character who cheats on MC is another MC. It certainly didn't stop this particular game from having
netorare tag, whether you consider it justified or not.
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So, by your (very weird) take, it's in fact impossible be NTR even in those other paths like ian/holly or cindy or alison or any other girl beside Lena. Because once NTR is a optional/avoidable route in this game, you the player have to actively pick the choices to make MC get NTR and be cheated on by those girls. But since you're the MC as you said, this also mean you're NTRing yourself and this is not true NTR in your book as you already said.
So, in conclusion, seems like optional/avoidable NTR is not NTR for you
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That's already answered by many of the user's in last page.
Did I say Alison's case is NTR? nope! I DIDN't EVEN MENTIONED NTR.
Anyway It all depends on whether how Ian and Alison feel about each other If in one playthrough both are emotionally involved(Alison is always involved so in this case Ian would be the factor to consider) than yes! that would fall into NTR category and NTR covers
That's why girl's in a Harem are called CUCKQUEENS!
Than it mean's you have a cheating kink!
(Either doing cheating or being cheated on)(That's why I play only MMC games and usually avoid FMC ones until FMC and MMC both are affecting each other's choices/consequences and NTR is avoidable) now this kink may be limited to VN's or fictional material only or you may subconsciously desire it. Now keep in mind here I referred as you not to point out you(mommysboiii) but all those who have this scenario going on!Your opinion's are subjective and mine too, we don't have to be on same page.
Now consider this scenario:
They are in relationship
- John and Mariah
- Mark and Daisy
- Liam and Kate
John and Mariah love eachother but John with Daisy whose boyfriend is Mark and Mariah with Liam whose girlfriend is Kate are cheating on eachother. Now remember Both John and Mariah are cheating on eachother. In John's case Liam is cucking John and Mariah is cucking Kate. On the other hand John is cucking Mark and Daisy is cucking Mariah. In this scenario both Daisy and Liam are also cheating on their partners but Daisy and Liam are not being cheated on they are doing cheating. From Daisy and Liam's perspective it would be netori.
If they all don't give shit about eachother(means not emotionally, mentally are involved with eachother) are are not in any sort of relationship/commitment than no one is getting cheating on or be cucked.
It's all about perspective and how emotionally invested you are in that person.
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