Blurpee69

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I wish There was an option where if Ian saves enough, he could move to a different apartment of his own, so that he can bang Cindy behind Wade's back how much he want without fearing of getting caught by Perry.
That sounds like it's coming in a future update. He's mentioned it twice in the last few chapters that he'd like to save enough money to move out. Or if he has quite a bit of money, that he almost has enough to move out.

Was it actually said at any point this amateur tournament is supposed to come with any rewards, that aren't at best a trophy and an energetic handshake? Since EK said this whole subquest was purely optional, i feel doubt it's going to bring anything that'd considerably skew the balance of things in the long run -- if Ian had to participate and do well in order to afford things down the road then it'd make things quite far from optional. So i don't see this resulting in any big income spike.

The promotion is similarly not something i'd bank much on. It's still a relatively low level job, and it might come with something like +1 salary increase (or maybe slightly higher, but that's getting counter-balanced by high rents if Ian is serious about moving out and getting his own place) and nowhere near what one can get paid to prance around naked and stick vibrators in one's orifices for exclusive amusement of a rich old pervert.
I suppose it wasn't said outright in the game no. I was just applying real world logic to the game, that usually fight winners win money from their fights. So perhaps there is a chance the Ian walks away from the tournament with nothing more than an "Atta boy" and a pat on the back. I'd be curious though what Eva could add to the pot that would make winning the tournament worth the effort if a big money payout isn't involved in some way. Winning the Tournament seems like the easiest way to have enough money to afford the aforementioned move out it sounds like he is planning.
 
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I don't disagree with you all that Lena is given more customization options, but regarding who runs out of cash, I'm just not having that same experience. It's purely play preferences.

My Ian runs out of money constantly: Wins pool bets. Never takes cash from Dad, gets three of four outfits, buys presents/fireworks/wine. Goes halfsies with Perry on food for vacation.

My Lena's got cash to spare: Does OF. Works for Seymour until he forces the vibe. Donates to her parents each time. Buys 2/4 outfits (the Charisma and Sporty outfits look lame, so she avoids). Gets Ivy a shitty gift, cause fuck that bitch. Gets every damn sex toy. No tats or belly ring because they're trashy, or luxurious dress since I don't want her posh, though she could still afford several of them with excess cash in her bank.

Lena in my playthroughs still makes far more than Ian and buys far more items with it, mainly for herself, while having quite a lot of spare cash should something interesting pop up. And I never feel as if I have to watch my cash with her or that I'm limited. Where Ian is scraping lint for pocket change with his few purchases, having to use what little cash he has a bunch more for relationship maintenance and will points (gained from financial independence from Daddy), which he runs out of constantly too.
Something similar happens to me but I come to buy the necessary things that I need but I always have little money and the same thing happens to me with Lena if I don't accept Seymour's offer and don't steal at work, it's as if EvaKiss told you that being a whore would get you makes life easier than being an honest worker, if Agnes made Ian an offer would they accept and what would Lena think if she saw Ian doing the same thing as her? :unsure: :LOL: :LOL: :unsure:
 

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The only thing Ian has to do is to show interest (or in some cases accept the girl's advances, hi Alison and Holly) because that's what his "right answers" boil down to. Just like Lena, in fact.
I give you Lena, Holly and maybe Alison, the other 5 options aren't gotten automatically.

- Lena is the easiest since you control her as well (possible to screw up if you let Ian date several girls).
- Holly points require some wit or charisma, though it may be possible to be invited to the book fair just by meeting her as much as possible?
- Alison can be screwed up if you stay with Perry and Cherry, new players don't necessarily overcome the following charisma check.
- Cherry requires 2/3 points which requires remembering a line from her and wit/charisma. Also lust, though it was a bit decreased a while ago? Still, if you don't pull of the one-night-stand, her route is blocked. Also, you are blocked afterwards just by telling her that you are smitten with her.
- Emma requires a high lust check thats difficult to achieve if Ian isn't fucking multiple girls and/or hording the lust levels (which are slightly rarer than the charisma/wits ones).
- Minerva requires to antagonize her and a high charisma/wit check.
- Cindy requires high charisma/wit skills to appease her, its very easy to lose points or end a date with one wrong answer.
- Bad Jess can be very easily pissed multiple ways.
 

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The argument that "Alison can be screwed up if you don't show interest in her and go for someone else" not only doesn't contradict my point (that all Ian need is to show actual interest) but isn't even true -- keep Alison at bay long enough and not only she will invite Ian and pretty much throw herself at him, but even forego any silly thoughts of condoms etc.

For the others, passing checks and "not ending date with wrong answer" is also something Lena is required to do at certain points. Not only that, but in some cases (Jeremy) she potentially has to spend will point to push things through. Or, let's put it this way -- at no point in the game i've felt Ian had it any harder to drown in pussies than Lena had to work for multiple dicks. And that was on a blind playthrough, with no cheats, walkthroughs or anything like that. The attribute checks are easy to meet, unless one is intentionally avoiding their development. So, no, i don't think this supposed difference of "Lena has it easy, Ian has to work for it" is really true.
 

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The argument that "Alison can be screwed up if you don't show interest in her and go for someone else" not only doesn't contradict my point (that all Ian need is to show actual interest) but isn't even true -- keep Alison at bay long enough and not only she will invite Ian and pretty much throw herself at him, but even forego any silly thoughts of condoms etc.

For the others, passing checks and "not ending date with wrong answer" is also something Lena is required to do at certain points. Not only that, but in some cases (Jeremy) she potentially has to spend will point to push things through. Or, let's put it this way -- at no point in the game i've felt Ian had it any harder to drown in pussies than Lena had to work for multiple dicks. And that was on a blind playthrough, with no cheats, walkthroughs or anything like that. The attribute checks are easy to meet, unless one is intentionally avoiding their development. So, no, i don't think this supposed difference of "Lena has it easy, Ian has to work for it" is really true.
Yeah it's more like the differences in male and female pov
 

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Yeah it's more like the differences in male and female pov
Yeah, i think this might be more of the player's projection of perception how things are in RL onto the game, that causes them to view what's very similar, if not the same, mechanically, as different and skewed towards one side.
 
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I want Ian to fuck Gillian and cuck Mike, make Gillian fall in love with Ian, and then throw her away like the used up cum rag that she is.
Cruel man, just cruel. Just cuck Mike. If Gillian falls for the MC, then okay, but I wouldn’t try to make it happen. Chucking Mike though? That’s practically mandatory.
 
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I heard this was not supposed to be possible
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This is after the latest update. I think it might be an Intentional choice.
 

Leongen43

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Cruel man, just cruel. Just cuck Mike. If Gillian falls for the MC, then okay, but I wouldn’t try to make it happen. Chucking Mike though? That’s practically mandatory.
You're right, you could have Ian seduce Gillian and then he would ask Ivy for drugs to give to Gillian and she would get excited and ready for sex, then he would call Jeremy to have a dirty threesome of hardcore sex and then have him end with a bukkake and at the end I would take several selfies and if I would send it to Mike when he is working, what music song will Mike choose when he sees the selfies? :unsure: :LOL:
 

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Don't see why not. The second round won't happen for a while, and whether he won or lost he's got now some extra incentive to train further.
 

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Something I don't understand is why we have the option of having anal sex with Allison if she's not ready, every time we choose that option she jumps in pain with Ian, if it were Jeremy and he didn't realize it and he puts it all the way in, Would you hear a noise like something broke? :unsure: :LOL: :LOL:
And Allison could tell him "what did you do to me, damn I can't feel my legs and now how do I explain this at the job that I hate so much " :unsure::LOL::LOL:
 

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Something I don't understand is why we have the option of having anal sex with Allison if she's not ready, every time we choose that option she jumps in pain with Ian, if it were Jeremy and he didn't realize it and he puts it all the way in, Would you hear a noise like something broke? :unsure: :LOL: :LOL:
And Allison could tell him "what did you do to me, damn I can't feel my legs and now how do I explain this at the job that I hate so much " :unsure::LOL::LOL:
Allison says she isn't ready, and doesn't enjoy anal sex. If Ian pushes for it and Allison relents, because she wants to make Ian happy. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
 
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Leongen43

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Allison says she isn't ready, and doesn't enjoy anal sex. If Ian pushes for it and Allison relents, because she wants to make Ian happy. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
First lesson from an adult to a boy: never do something that could hurt you physically or emotionally to please someone, if that person really loves you, he or she will never ask you or do something to you that hurts you intentionally.
Also, if you didn't realize it, it was a joke with a little reflection on decisions that can be bad and that it is better not to make, like asking Allison for anal sex, I hope you understand, my child. :cool: :LOL:
 
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I am a Cindy fan, I believe she is the most interesting character in the game. She is much more appealing than any other character and I really wanted to see her, at least as one of the MCs. I think she is the most real one among them and her struggles make her the deepest character in the game but I don't see any reasonable way her relationship would work with Ian. Every relation has power dynamic within and in the love path, Ian has zero power in the relationship. He has to sacrifice too much also. He will lose Wade and Perry as a friend, has to miss to have deeper relationship either as a friend or a lover of Holly, he will probably lose Emma and most likely lose Alison too. He has to give up Lena and even if he drags it has to break up with Cherry eventually. He has to jeopardise his dream to become an author too because he cannot go to book fair. I think he will probably miss any chance to get closer to Ivy, because looks like even though she try to not show it she finds loyalty important. What he gets in return, becoming second choice at best. He always has to agree with her if not their relationship gets huge hit. Also she is ready to switch other options. She holds Ian as a safety net. Also Ian cannot give the glamorous life she is wanting and always has to keep up at his best. Relationships always have ups and downs, even if Ian overcomes everything Cindy throws at him when he eventually stumbles she won't hesitate to seek for better options. I noticed Ian can collect relationship points with Cindy and I can see dev gonna use that for Cindy's decision between Axel and Ian but even that should be huge red flag for Ian. Cindy's options are reciprocate Ian's feeling whom sacrificing everything he has or becoming a play thing of Axel for a while. All in all, I think Ian should stay clear of Cindy but I'll probably dedicate one maybe more saves for Cindy path because I find her journey highly interesting. :unsure::giggle::whistle:
 

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I am a Cindy fan, I believe she is the most interesting character in the game. She is much more appealing than any other character and I really wanted to see her, at least as one of the MCs. I think she is the most real one among them and her struggles make her the deepest character in the game but I don't see any reasonable way her relationship would work with Ian. Every relation has power dynamic within and in the love path, Ian has zero power in the relationship. He has to sacrifice too much also. He will lose Wade and Perry as a friend, has to miss to have deeper relationship either as a friend or a lover of Holly, he will probably lose Emma and most likely lose Alison too. He has to give up Lena and even if he drags it has to break up with Cherry eventually. He has to jeopardise his dream to become an author too because he cannot go to book fair. I think he will probably miss any chance to get closer to Ivy, because looks like even though she try to not show it she finds loyalty important. What he gets in return, becoming second choice at best. He always has to agree with her if not their relationship gets huge hit. Also she is ready to switch other options. She holds Ian as a safety net. Also Ian cannot give the glamorous life she is wanting and always has to keep up at his best. Relationships always have ups and downs, even if Ian overcomes everything Cindy throws at him when he eventually stumbles she won't hesitate to seek for better options. I noticed Ian can collect relationship points with Cindy and I can see dev gonna use that for Cindy's decision between Axel and Ian but even that should be huge red flag for Ian. Cindy's options are reciprocate Ian's feeling whom sacrificing everything he has or becoming a play thing of Axel for a while. All in all, I think Ian should stay clear of Cindy but I'll probably dedicate one maybe more saves for Cindy path because I find her journey highly interesting.:unsure::giggle::whistle:
The best thing is to have many open routes with different games to see how far each relationship goes with either Ian or Lena. If Cindy doesn't decide, could we share her with Axel as if it were shared custody as if Cindy were our daughter? :unsure: :LOL: :LOL:
 
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