VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Zara Scarlet]

Considering all the recent Holly discussions I wanna add my 2 cents and hope that something develops between Holly and Stan when Holly is dating Ian. Yeah it's far from good option, but she rejected Mark and Lena didn't help introduce her to Robert on this route unfortunately. Romance and loyalty is cool and Holly can be pretty cute when innocent, but I just find it so hot when you can corrupt someone like that and if Ian isn't dating Holly there is a connection missing so the emotions aren't as strong.

Holly is intended to be mostly loyal to Ian, and only remotely cheats by kissing with Lena, which will eventually lead to the 'throuple'.

If you want to corrupt Holly, you need to get her, on her 'slut' route. And therefore no relationship with Ian or Lena. On that route she's slowly becoming another version of Ivy, to the point she may one day possibly give up writing, and become a model/ dancer herself. When you have Ian, noticing that she's now more interested in looking at social media on her phone, than sitting reading a book. You know she's changing radically. And now her ambition is to be just like Ivy and Lena.

And nothing demonstrates how much she's now over Ian, than seeing her having sex with Robert, and sending pictures of it on the phone to Ivy. Because surely she knows, that Ian hates Robert, and her having sex with him and knowing that, is the ultimate insult. Even Lena didn't know about Ian and Robert's emnity, when she started fucking him. So her recent flirting with Ian on the beach holiday, needs to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. If she's still really attracted to him, as a potential boyfriend, would she seriously be fucking the one guy he loathes more than any other? I think she's toying with him, to prove she's now the equal of Lena, and get him to be interested in her. Because that is what Ivy would do.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

One thing I don't get is why you don't get a second chance with Emma. We know from her interactions with Ian and Jeremy she only needs a little flirting from them to let them fuck yet you can flirt with her heavily during the beach scenes and be in her room yet no options pop up? I don't really get this from a story perspective.

If you're in a relationship with Lena, it can't happen, because Emma is her friend as well. And EK has made it, so that Ian and Lena can't cheat with each others friends. If you're not in a relationship with Lena, it might be a lead-in to future content with Emma? Plus, if Ian is already sleeping with Emma, well that content has a completely different meaning and does lead to sex scenes during the beach holiday

 

[Turret]

Holly is intended to be mostly loyal to Ian, and only remotely cheats by kissing with Lena, which will eventually lead to the 'throuple'.

If you want to corrupt Holly, you need to get her, on her 'slut' route. And therefore no relationship with Ian or Lena. On that route she's slowly becoming another version of Ivy, to the point she may one day possibly give up writing, and become a model/ dancer herself. When you have Ian, noticing that she's now more interested in looking at social media on her phone, than sitting reading a book. You know she's changing radically. And now her ambition is to be just like Ivy and Lena.

And nothing demonstrates how much she's now over Ian, than seeing her having sex with Robert, and sending pictures of it on the phone to Ivy. Because surely she knows, that Ian hates Robert, and her having sex with him and knowing that, is the ultimate insult. Even Lena didn't know about Ian and Robert's emnity, when she started fucking him. So her recent flirting with Ian on the beach holiday, needs to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. If she's still really attracted to him, as a potential boyfriend, would she seriously be fucking the one guy he loathes more than any other? I think she's toying with him, to prove she's now the equal of Lena, and get him to be interested in her. Because that is what Ivy would do.

Since when does Ian hate Robert? I think that is a rather path specific thing, I did not encounter this so far, since Robert is very much a side character in my main playthroughs. In addition, wild Holly only goes for Robert if Lena gives her his number at the urging of Ivy. (Unless this changes in the ch 12 full version)
Personally I think wild Holly still wants Ian (at least on some path variants), during the earlier chapters every now and then there was information that Holly looks at Lena and Ivy as role models for her to become visible to Ian. If she is more like them then in her thinking Ian will take notice of her. If Ian now starts to pursue her, I doubt Holly becomes "full slutty". But she will stay "wild Holly" with some fun on the side, because that is the Holly Ian wants. (at least on this possible path)

 

[Chemish]

Do we have this version in here ?

I do not know.

 

[NiXxXoN]

Why i can't play chapter 12 beach event.Chapter 12 finish when perry poop out can someone explain why.

 

[DatGuy20]

If you're in a relationship with Lena, it can't happen, because Emma is her friend as well. And EK has made it, so that Ian and Lena can't cheat with each others friends. If you're not in a relationship with Lena, it might be a lead-in to future content with Emma? Plus, if Ian is already sleeping with Emma, well that content has a completely different meaning and does lead to sex scenes during the beach holiday

Well yes i'm talking about outside of a relationship with Emma as you can't be in Emma's room and in a relationship with Lena

 

[SearingFive]

Holly is intended to be mostly loyal to Ian, and only remotely cheats by kissing with Lena, which will eventually lead to the 'throuple'.

If you want to corrupt Holly, you need to get her, on her 'slut' route. And therefore no relationship with Ian or Lena. On that route she's slowly becoming another version of Ivy, to the point she may one day possibly give up writing, and become a model/ dancer herself. When you have Ian, noticing that she's now more interested in looking at social media on her phone, than sitting reading a book. You know she's changing radically. And now her ambition is to be just like Ivy and Lena.

And nothing demonstrates how much she's now over Ian, than seeing her having sex with Robert, and sending pictures of it on the phone to Ivy. Because surely she knows, that Ian hates Robert, and her having sex with him and knowing that, is the ultimate insult. Even Lena didn't know about Ian and Robert's emnity, when she started fucking him. So her recent flirting with Ian on the beach holiday, needs to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. If she's still really attracted to him, as a potential boyfriend, would she seriously be fucking the one guy he loathes more than any other? I think she's toying with him, to prove she's now the equal of Lena, and get him to be interested in her. Because that is what Ivy would do.

Holly doesn't know about Robert and Ian's animosity, it was never brought up in her storyline. Robert is introduced to her as dude who slept with Lena. Slut Holly did give some fuck me vibe when she was stoned and eye fucking the shit out of Ian during that time. Slut Holly might try to sabotage Ian-Lena relationship as she grows more confident and slutty.

 

[SearingFive]

Since when does Ian hate Robert? I think that is a rather path specific thing, I did not encounter this so far, since Robert is very much a side character in my main playthroughs. In addition, wild Holly only goes for Robert if Lena gives her his number at the urging of Ivy. (Unless this changes in the ch 12 full version)
Personally I think wild Holly still wants Ian (at least on some path variants), during the earlier chapters every now and then there was information that Holly looks at Lena and Ivy as role models for her to become visible to Ian. If she is more like them then in her thinking Ian will take notice of her. If Ian now starts to pursue her, I doubt Holly becomes "full slutty". But she will stay "wild Holly" with some fun on the side, because that is the Holly Ian wants. (at least on this possible path)

If you fought Robert after the bar scene, Ian will have a distaste for Robert but not at the level when both are dating Lena. He calls him an asshole in his monologue when he's on a dinner date with Minerva. Nothing major. It's a full blown hate when they fight 2 times.

 

[Turret]

If you fought Robert after the bar scene, Ian will have a distaste for Robert but not at the level when both are dating Lena. He calls him an asshole in his monologue when he's on a dinner date with Minerva. Nothing major. It's a full blown hate when they fight 2 times.

That explains it. I never fought Robert, always could calm the situation down. So in theory we could get wild Holly in a relationship with Ian without that drama.
While she might tone it down once she is in a love relationship with Ian, there are still a couple possibilities. A Stag/Vixen relationship, Ian ok with Holly "playing", them becoming a normal couple, but with a bolder sluttier Holly...
Would like to have a route with Ian/Holly fully in love, her still a successful writer but in fantasy and(!) erotica due to her experiences.

 

[SearingFive]

That explains it. I never fought Robert, always could calm the situation down. So in theory we could get wild Holly in a relationship with Ian without that drama.

It will be Perry stirring shit up even if Ian is neutral towards Robert.

 

[Ray_D]

Jeremy's first fight was a doddle. He basically just used his superior reach to pick off the guy, who couldn't get near him to score any points. Whereas, Ian's first contest was a total war, against a guy who a big weight advantage over him. In the second round, he came out determined to do some damage to Ian, who had to absorb quite a lot of punishment, until the opportunity opened up for a takedown. Once he had him on the ground, and used his body weight to pin him down, that early onslaught when he failed to knock Ian out, meant he didn't have the energy left to get Ian off him, and when he weakened even more, Ian got him into an armlock, and the fight was effectively over, because there was no way he was escaping that for a second time. I wonder, if he'll actually prove to be the hardest opponent in Ian's side of the draw, until he reaches the final group?

I can't see Jeremy dropping down a weight division deliberately. I think he'll view that as being unsportsmanlike. He'll want to win on his own merits, and not by taking advantage of a loophole. Also, I don't think he'd want to fight Ian, and if they're in different weight divisions, there's a possibility of them both ending up as winners.

And as far as Mike is concerned, if Ian believes Jeremy, he already suspects that Mike is one of the likely guys, that Lena might be fooling around with. So any fight between them, is going to have some added angst. And we know from his confrontation with Axel, that Mike has a bit of a temper, that he struggles to control. So if Ian could get him a bit worked up before the fight, and uses 'provoke' to stoke the fire even more, he might be able to get Mike to lose his cool, and attack rashly. If he's a grappler, he really wants to him to strike, because that will leave him open to a takedown eventually. Wear him out trying to knock him out, and then pounce when he tires, and get him into an armlock, which he's then too weak to resist. Ian just needs to keep his cool, and make sure Mike loses his. Which he might do, if Ian were to rile him up about Lena beforehand.

I started off with Ian learning Ju-Jitsu, because I think it suits his more compact body type. Whereas Jeremy's long arms and longer legs, naturally favour kickboxing. But then later I switched to improving his striking technique, after Yuri suggested it. Hopefully, we'll be able to keep switching between different styles of fighting over the coming months, between separate bouts. So Ian can become much more well-rounded as a fighter.

The fight against mike is going to be interesting. Especially if it's true that mike is the guy gillian cheated on ian with.

 

[Turret]

It will be Perry stirring shit up even if Ian is neutral towards Robert.

Quite likely. I am a laidback guy, but Perry has grown over the game to be a real pain in the a.. And that´s how he treats his friends!

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Holly doesn't know about Robert and Ian's animosity, it was never brought up in her storyline. Robert is introduced to her as dude who slept with Lena. Slut Holly did give some fuck me vibe when she was stoned and eye fucking the shit out of Ian during that time. Slut Holly will try to sabotage Ian-Lena relationship as she grows more confident and slutty.

Actually during that scene with Ian when they were smoking weed. She tells Ian that she now feels the same way about Lena, that she USED to feel about him. Which is a further indication, that she's no longer crushing on him.

You're right about Robert though. For some reason, I thought Ian or Lena had talked about Robert with Holly, after their fight during the life drawing event. But even so, her having sex with Ivy, Mark and now Robert, all at the same time, is further evidence that slutty Holly is over her crush with Ian. And that her flirting with him now, probably has some ulterior motive.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

The fight against mike is going to be interesting. Especially if it's true that mike is the guy gillian cheated on ian with.

I'm not entirely sure about that. Because surely Jeremy would know, and would have told Ian, when he asks him about the guy Gillian was with when she visited Blazer? Jeremy says he doesn't know who the guy with Gillian was, which he would if Mike is actually her boyfriend. And what reason would he have for not telling Ian the truth? Which he will surely discover eventually, if Mike actually is Gillian's boyfriend? Why would he tell Ian about Lena fooling around behind his back, but not tell him that Mike is Gillian's boyfriend?

Ian is a closer friend to Jeremy than Mike, and is one of his Bro's. I don't see him protecting Mike, over his loyalty to Ian. He couldn't keep silent about Lena to Ian, even though it risks implicating his own failure to stick to their Bro code. So it makes no sense, that he wouldn't tell Ian, the identity of Gillian's boyfriend, if it's actually Mike. The guilt would kill him, just like it did over Lena's infidelities.

Maybe Gillian's boyfriend will actually be another character from GGGB?

 

[Radnos Salazar]

If you're enjoying it, what does it matter how long it takes?

what matters is, i hate waiting with the feeling of what will happen next, that's why i usually play games only in their completed state so that atleast i know before going in that this has some kind of conclusion, but hey thats just me. But the development time for amazing games like this is wayy to hard to see through. 6 years is not a small period of time, and a lot of years have already passed since development began. So 10 years or more development time for a game is not a small time period. And this game allows soo much customization for building a relationship, that's why people love this soo much, and maybe that's why the dev is being slow to make it last as long as possible. But it's gonna get annoying sometimes if the development time is soo big

 

[Zara Scarlet]

what matters is, i hate waiting with the feeling of what will happen next, that's why i usually play games only in their completed state so that atleast i know before going in that this has some kind of conclusion, but hey thats just me. But the development time for amazing games like this is wayy to hard to see through. 6 years is not a small period of time, and a lot of years have already passed since development began. So 10 years or more development time for a game is not a small time period. And this game allows soo much customization for building a relationship, that's why people love this soo much, and maybe that's why the dev is being slow to make it last as long as possible. But it's gonna get annoying sometimes if the development time is soo big

Everyone who enjoys this game is in the same boat. It's just something you have to get used to. I play so many of these games, as soon as I've finished playing all the content in a particular update, I just move onto the next one, and get wrapped up in that. Virtually every day, another game update is released, for one of the games I'm currently playing. So the time between updates of my favourites can appear to pass quite quickly, because I have all these others to keep me occupied in the meantime. At present, I have 10 different game apps on my taskbar, including this one, for updates of games I'm currently playing, and about 20 others on the backburner, to start playing once I've finished with these. By the time I get through those, there will already be 20-30 more to replace them. I'm never up to date, and consequently I'm never waiting around impatiently for future updates, like you appear to be.

 

[SearingFive]

Actually during that scene with Ian when they were smoking weed. She tells Ian that she now feels the same way about Lena, that she USED to feel about him. Which is a further indication, that she's no longer crushing on him.

You're right about Robert though. For some reason, I thought Ian or Lena had talked about Robert with Holly, after their fight during the life drawing event. But even so, her having sex with Ivy, Mark and now Robert, all at the same time, is further evidence that slutty Holly is over her crush with Ian. And that her flirting with him now, probably has some ulterior motive.

Holly might try to break Ian/Lena relationship on her slutty path. Just like Lena took Ian from her grasp when she was meek. Probably a power move by slutty Holly to feel desired and out of spite against Lena. The word ally is used in the beginning of the game to describe Holly's relationship with Ian and Lena, I smell a backstabbing coming soon from slutty Holly or maybe I am reading into it too much.

 

[Rickster82]

If you fought Robert after the bar scene, Ian will have a distaste for Robert but not at the level when both are dating Lena. He calls him an asshole in his monologue when he's on a dinner date with Minerva. Nothing major. It's a full blown hate when they fight 2 times.

Robert = biggest NPC in ORS.
I have no idea what the point of him is. Even before the date with him, Lena says that she isn't really interested in him. In my playthroughs, Robert always gets the ultimate triple: rejection from Lena, punch from Axel and kicks from Ian.

 

[lucadiadis]

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[lucadiadis]

Robert = biggest NPC in ORS.
I have no idea what the point of him is. Even before the date with him, Lena says that she isn't really interested in him. In my playthroughs, Robert always gets the ultimate triple: rejection from Lena, punch from Axel and kicks from Ian.

I'm exactly the same. She doesn't even go for drinks, "for the same reason (she has) declined all the other times".