Geigi

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Because this is a porn game and we play for the sex scenes?
They are millions of PG dating games out there,being dissapointed a Evakiss game is not a comfy dating simulator is on you.
We all play porn games for the sex scenes, I'm pretty sure I have played more PG dating simulators than you and Eva's games have some comfy routes, thank you. Totally missed my point and I was referring to some posts before mine, but I can't quote them all due to not end as spam.
 

bonerland

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I'll keep it short. The game is obviously written for straight male players. Kinks are mostly a male fantasy and romance is not the best. The majority of girls who play otome games are not into Eva's games. That being, I prefer corruption like in 50 shades of Grey(bad choice I know) not the type of a virgin girl become a nymphomaniac and I'll never understand men's obsession with big dicks and wanting to see women fuck literally everyone in games. Humans, animals, insects...
You're coming awfully close to asking why anyone would want porn in their porn game.
 

ffive

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So, for the record. I think all of chapter 1 has been rewritten. On top of the changes to Ian's half of the story I've already mentioned in a previous post.
A small note, but if it was a rewrite then it was done years ago. The game played like that for me when i tried it for the first time (which was build 10.3 or so) and in fact, i had no idea any of that was at some point any different.

Ian wouldn't be able to compete if there was a conventionally normal male who is not a douche in Lena's backyard, let's be honest here.
Ian is "conventionally normal male who is not a douche in Lena's backyard". I have no idea what is your mental image of such guy, if you think Ian wouldn't be able to compete effectively with himself. But suffice to say, it's likely quite exaggerated and far from "conventionally normal".

My bad, Ian is a multi-talented 26 year old literature magazine intern. We're gonna put it on his resume. But does he front a regionally successful Deftones cover band like the guy I just made up in my head? I don't think so.
Is that all it would take you to drop your knickers for a guy? "He plays covers in a local band"?

Man, groupies really are easy. No wonder even Perry could get some. :whistle:

Incidentally, "fronts regionally successful cover band" is quite far from "conventionally normal". The conventionally normal don't front bands, and when they do it's normally not successful. Most bands aren't.

I played a 100% pro-Axel route, and he seems to make amends to Lena somewhat. Not ideal perhaps, but the attraction to Axel is just way stronger than to the other LIs.
Lena's attraction is 100% driven by the player's choices. If you focus on Axel, she'll be crazy about Axel while if you give him a slip she won't warrant him a second thought. Same for Ian and Mike and Seymour. She can be head over heels for any of them.

So no, using this for reasoning that he is "the best option" is misguided. Any of her options is potentially "the best option" as far as Lena's attraction is concerned.
 
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Xupuzulla

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We all play porn games for the sex scenes, I'm pretty sure I have played more PG dating simulators than you and Eva's games have some comfy routes, thank you. Totally missed my point and I was referring to some posts before mine, but I can't quote them all due to not end as spam.
You say you play this game for the porn but you cant understand why we men want to see Lena fucked?
Brother what?o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
The problem with many people here is that you want the cake and eat it too.
You play this game for the "dating" but get mad the fetishes get content.
I say what i always say THANK FUCKING GOD EVAKISS ONLY LISTENS TO HER PATREONS,MORE STAN CONTENT PLEASE MAKE THE NERDS MAD!!!!
 

bonerland

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We all play porn games for the sex scenes, I'm pretty sure I have played more PG dating simulators than you and Eva's games have some comfy routes, thank you. Totally missed my point and I was referring to some posts before mine, but I can't quote them all due to not end as spam.
You don't get why someone playing a porn game would want to see as many scenes as possible? As for the big dicks, maybe it's because it's visually striking, and looks better to see a hot gal work than it is to see their head or hips barely move, maybe it's because since the focus is on the hot gal, it's easier to self-insert as the male talent and imagine yourself railing the nymphomaniac. Either way, it's not that deep.
 

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You say you play this game for the porn but you cant understand why we men want to see Lena fucked?
Brother what?o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
The problem with many people here is that you want the cake and eat it too.
You play this game for the "dating" but get mad the fetishes get content.
I say what i always say THANK FUCKING GOD EVAKISS ONLY LISTENS TO HER PATREONS,MORE STAN CONTENT PLEASE MAKE THE NERDS MAD!!!!
exactly. Thankfully dev patreons are totally different. Imagine if f95 users were her paid members. We will get handholding lesbian simulator and best action will be kiss on the cheek with other male. Not to mention few users in this thread are anti-ntr and i see them often in male protagonist games :cool:
 

Hungover00

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exactly. Thankfully dev patreons are totally different. Imagine if f95 users were her paid members. We will get handholding lesbian simulator and best action will be kiss on the cheek with other male. Not to mention few users in this thread are anti-ntr and i see them often in male protagonist games :cool:
Where are the headpats in that scenario?! No class, at all.

/s?
 

Xupuzulla

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exactly. Thankfully dev patreons are totally different. Imagine if f95 users were her paid members. We will get handholding lesbian simulator and best action will be kiss on the cheek with other male. Not to mention few users in this thread are anti-ntr and i see them often in male protagonist games :cool:
Brother i swear this thread has the most puritans of all F95.
In other threads you have people asking for incest patches,here you have people crying the female MC is getting fucked in the ass too much like WHAT!!o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
 

Nifferman

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I'll keep it short. The game is obviously written for straight male players. Kinks are mostly a male fantasy and romance is not the best. The majority of girls who play otome games are not into Eva's games. That being, I prefer corruption like in 50 shades of Grey(bad choice I know) not the type of a virgin girl become a nymphomaniac and I'll never understand men's obsession with big dicks and wanting to see women fuck literally everyone in games. Humans, animals, insects...
Hey...men too like deep corruption, you know, well at least some of us do. Quality over quantity. But, most Japanese games i know are just fuck fest and nothing more though.
 

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Eva is a very talented sex writer, but there are some times when it feels like ORS would benefit from not being a sex game. There's a lot of nuance and complexity in some of the storylines, and then the next scene has some fan service or a sex scene because it feels necessary for the genre, but it's jarring having the two scenes side by side. It is very much driven by choice, so it is possible to have a sex light story or a porn heavy themed narrative, but it is one of the few games where I could imagine if Eva moved on and just wrote sfw dating sims, she'd probably do quite well.
 

ffive

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Eva is a very talented sex writer, but there are some times when it feels like ORS would benefit from not being a sex game. There's a lot of nuance and complexity in some of the storylines, and then the next scene has some fan service or a sex scene because it feels necessary for the genre, but it's jarring having the two scenes side by side.
To be fair, i think that some of the sex scenes actually add a lot to the narrative at certain points. Like that scene with Ian punishing Lena, e.g.? Not only it's fire, but it also shows very well how the whole cheating thing has affected their relationship going forward, as well as Ian's (and Lena's) feelings at the moment. Same for the trinity scene and some others, early in the game.

So i don't think it's jarring or that EK's games would necessarily be better if they're made purely sfw. There are some sex scenes which wouldn't make difference if they're removed, but overall i think EK's games would do better as equivalent of those romance novels, which do include some sex at the end of the day. It's just not main focus.
 

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I have no idea what is your mental image of such guy, if you think Ian wouldn't be able to compete effectively with himself.
It's Bill Clinton, man, plain and simple. And he makes youououuuuuuuuuuuu noises on stage for a living. Absolutely perfect.

Is that all it would take you to drop your knickers for a guy?
Hell yeah. Dropping knickers, waving pantaloons, fainting on the small bedroom couch.
 
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Gicoo

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Sex sells much better in this industry.

However, Eva succeeded because their work was a healthy mix of romance and porn. Characters and stereotypes, plot and porn.

exactly. Thankfully dev patreons are totally different. Imagine if f95 users were her paid members. We will get handholding lesbian simulator and best action will be kiss on the cheek with other male. Not to mention few users in this thread are anti-ntr and i see them often in male protagonist games :cool:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Haven't you seen other games here?
Cocky alpha assholes like Axel and Mike are great to have in the game, the corruption aspect is one of the core aspects of these games. But if these types are balanced with some nice, comforting, reasonable nice guys, its a much better end product, just how in GGGB you had some wholesome routes. And even their alpha Jack had some depth and possible redemption, while in ORS, Axels content got cut and he is an irredeemable villain.
 

Geigi

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To be fair, i think that some of the sex scenes actually add a lot to the narrative at certain points. Like that scene with Ian punishing Lena, e.g.? Not only it's fire, but it also shows very well how the whole cheating thing has affected their relationship going forward, as well as Ian's (and Lena's) feelings at the moment. Same for the trinity scene and some others, early in the game.

So i don't think it's jarring or that EK's games would necessarily be better if they're made purely sfw. There are some sex scenes which wouldn't make difference if they're removed, but overall i think EK's games would do better as equivalent of those romance novels, which do include some sex at the end of the day. It's just not main focus.
That Ian-Lena sex scene was one of the best written sex scenes in FMC games.

Sex sells much better in this industry.

However, Eva succeeded because their work was a healthy mix of romance and porn. Characters and stereotypes, plot and porn.


Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Haven't you seen other games here?
Cocky alpha assholes like Axel and Mike are great to have in the game, the corruption aspect is one of the core aspects of these games. But if these types are balanced with some nice, comforting, reasonable nice guys, its a much better end product, just how in GGGB you had some wholesome routes. And even their alpha Jack had some depth and possible redemption, while in ORS, Axels content got cut and he is an irredeemable villain.
I couldn't stand Jack in the beginning but he grew on me and I was positively surprised by his wedding ending.
 
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