RobertKing

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That remark was specifically referencing SOME men. It was not a sweeping generalization you've made it to be.


It was perfectly normal remark in the given context. (of fictional character behaving rudely) In no way the reference you took offense at was not normal, not acceptable or "attacking men".

This whole exchange is almost like a parody in its stupidity.

"Some men are assholes. [worse than this fictional character]"
"Not ALL men!"
"Yes, that's what I said."

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you wrote "Jack's reaction is nothing as opposed to 'some dudes who can react far worse due to rejecting their advances.'" who are the 'some dudes' you are referencing? The royal nature of the comment does not look like you reference the game. But yeah 'in the game', some women are are WAY too emotional.
 
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you wrote "Jack's reaction is nothing as opposed to 'some dudes who can react far worse due to rejecting their advances.'" who are the 'some dudes' you are referencing? The royal nature of the comment does not look like you reference the game. But yeah 'in the game', some women are are WAY too emotional.
#1 it wasn't me who wrote it.
#2 that statement was about men out there whose assholery goes way beyond referring to a girl per "bitch" when their advances are rejected. It's not hard to think of examples of such far worse behavior -- physical assault and/or going as far as committing rape would be quite obvious cases. Such men exist and pointing it out is not "attacking men" as long as it's not a generalization, which it was not.

But yeah 'in the game', some women are are WAY too emotional.
I don't know, none of them makes a scene about "attacking women" out of a simple remark. :whistle:
 

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Both sexes have shit people.
Is kinda funny how this thread looks away depending the character through,Ivy being the easiest example:whistle:
 
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I'm probably gaslighting myself into something that's not coming. But man I really want new sprite's for the characters soon.

It just feels like several characters are at the precipice of a major change, or have potentially already had one in the case of Holly and Allison; and that can be reflected in a new art direction for them. It doesn't help that we've known about some placeholder appearance changes for Lena, Ian, and Holly for some time now either.
 

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I'm probably gaslighting myself into something that's not coming. But man I really want new sprite's for the characters soon.

It just feels like several characters are at the precipice of a major change, or have potentially already had one in the case of Holly and Allison; and that can be reflected in a new art direction for them. It doesn't help that we've known about some placeholder appearance changes for Lena, Ian, and Holly for some time now either.
I guess if no one else then Stan and potentially Wade are up for a makeover. For Emma, it could go in two ways, given that Ian can provide input whether he likes her dressing more girly or focus on sex appeal, and Emma reacts to it.

The most obvious development is the Nun Ivy, ofc. :whistle:
 
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Hungover00

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Is it possible to stop Slut Holly from being a thing if she continues pole-dancing? Doing a replay and it feels more and more like she'll get sucked in, and Ian hasn't even had a chance to lock her up yet.
 

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Is it possible to stop Slut Holly from being a thing if she continues pole-dancing? Doing a replay and it feels more and more like she'll get sucked in, and Ian hasn't even had a chance to lock her up yet.
Just keep Holly from having sex with Ivy and you should be good.
 
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I guess if no one else then Stan and potentially Wade are up for a makeover. For Emma, it could go in two ways, given that Ian can provide input whether he likes her dressing more girly or focus on sex appeal, and Emma reacts to it.

The most obvious development is the Nun Ivy, ofc. :whistle:
Stan seems like he might finally be getting a glow up if Lena has been patient with him. That's been a long time coming, but there has recently been a lot of talk from him about eating healthier, going to the gym, and having a personal trainer.

Wade is a little further off I think since he just made up his mind with regards to Cindy, so a little more time might need to pass unless we have a bit of a time skip. If he made peace with the breakup we could see him getting back into shape, or if he raged he could fall further into depression and get even worse looking.

I doubt Perry will change much, but depending on how things go with Emma and at the cafe there could be an excuse for some sort of change.

Robert, Axel, Mike, and Jeremy are unlikely to have any sort of appearance change other than maybe an wardrobe update. Or another black eye in Robert's case.

Ian can get even more muscular and / or vascular if he's been training hard and has had success in the MMA tournament. Or more schlubby, with a matching appearance to Perry or heaven forbid Stan, if he's been played as a loser. There is also still the potential of facial hair and tattoos for him likely dependent on his chad level. We also know that possibility exists because of the placeholder variables that were discovered in the code.

Louise is going away for some time, so she can easily have a change while away with her parents, but I doubt much would change with her. Same can be said for both Cherry and Ivy, both have remained fairly consistent through the whole story and there hasn't been a major plot beat that would really shake up their personality and therefor how they express themselves.

Cindy has been away for some time too. She's mentioned going to the gym more to better match the model aesthetic. I doubt she would have much of a makeover, but I could potentially see her having a bit of a tan after spending so much time out in the sun modeling if EK really wanted to mix it up with Cindy.

Allison has been the one to change throughout the game, but we haven't actually seen her in person since her last "upgrade."

Holly obviously had a development this last update. So another wardrobe update for her, tattoos / piercings and a new hairstyle / hair color to match that major change. Even on a none slutty route the release of her new novel is a good enough excuse that she can at least update her outfit or hairstyle to match her growing success as a writer.

Emma has had a lot of discussion recently with both Ian and Lena about her appearance, with both being able to encourage her in differing ways about her appearance. Then there is whatever is about to happen with Seymour as well. All of this points towards a potential appearance update.

Lena, much like Ian, also has a lot of potential different direction her appearance could go. If she's been dedicated to Stalkfap, her clothing has already gotten closer to matching Ivy's, but we could get another update. If she's Seymour's muse she thinks to herself the importance of her appearance and will automatically start working out, so a potential _fit flag for Lena can be used so that she has a specific sprite used similar to Ian's _fit flag. She has a few more tattoos and piercing options as well from the placeholder tags as well as potentially a boobjob.

All of this is to say that it just feels like we're close with plenty of excuses for most of the cast to get overhauls if EK really wanted to do it. Most characters are set up for a change and now would be a good time to do it as our perspective as players has been away from most of them while we've been at the beach house or with Lena on her travels with Seymour / Ivy.

Or like I said, I'm just gaslighting myself into thinking major appearance changes are coming for the cast.
 

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f she's Seymour's muse she thinks to herself the importance of her appearance and will automatically start working out, so a potential _fit flag for Lena can be used so that she has a specific sprite used similar to Ian's _fit flag.
In addition, being on Seymour path may possibly impact Lena's clothing choices, since it's mentioned Seymour likes to control and shape those under his influence to match his preferences/image. We've already seen a little bit of it with Lena's lingerie he gets her on the trip to Rome.
 
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In addition, being on Seymour path may possibly impact Lena's clothing choices, since it's mentioned Seymour likes to control and shape those under his influence to match his preferences/image. We've already seen a little bit of it with Lena's lingerie he gets her on the trip to Rome.
Yeah, you would think he's the man of a refined taste, but honestly, the romantic sex scene with Lena is ruined by her wearing those... Ugh, I can't remember what's it called.
 

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Once you go Jeremy you don't go back.

(technically it is possible for Lena to get a small sample at Ivy's place without ruining things for herself down the road, but not going the full way. Although if she shows patience and restraint she might be able to have a threesome with Jeremy and cuck Ian at some point down the road)
 

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Little late but messing around in the gallery and noticed Holly can interact with Clark a bit, is there anything that happens if she does this while with Ian given Clark is a coworker?
 

ffive

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Little late but messing around in the gallery and noticed Holly can interact with Clark a bit, is there anything that happens if she does this while with Ian given Clark is a coworker?
Holly in relationship with Ian doesn't do anything with Clark. She will fuck him if she's on slutty path.
 

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Did Ivy have something to do with Cherry/Axel/Lena? Just replaying the bit with Holly/Ivy/Lena shopping, and the way Ivy talks about things is super sus. She's deflecting hard, before it's even necessary. Did Ivy hook Axel and Cherry up?
 

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Hey people, i would like to know your favorite/more satisfying LI or paths for this game.
I'm late to the party on this but it's a question I haven't thought about in a while, and it made me curious if others have changed their favorite path(s) over the past few chapters, as I have.

If you asked me at, say, the end of chapter 10 or so, I had a handful of paths I was playing, primary IanxLena and working towards the Trinity, but also other paths including IanxHolly, or IanxCindy, or LenaxLouisexJeremy. But as both Ian and Lena's options for more intentional sex, leading in some cases to relationships, have increased, and especially since the Trinity happened and we as players could get there from either IanxLena or IanxHolly, I'm now only playing three primary paths:

1 - IanxHolly, with the Trinity. Ian & Lena encourage Holly to be bolder but she isn't involved with Ivy outside pole dancing classes. Ian focuses on writing his novel. He's also over Gillian, but Lena isn't over Axel, and along with being seduced by him again, she signs with Seymour but cautiously, and doesn't respond to his advances. Lena is on Stalkfap and enjoys casual sex with girls (Ivy, Louise) and a couple of guys (Jeremy, Mike) but isn't trying to steal Jeremy on the sly and is uneasy about sleeping with Mike (as it turns out, with good reason). She's going to have to figure out what she wants, whether that's Ian & Holly, or someone else.

2 - LenaxHolly, with no Trinity. Lena is building her harem, sleeping with Louise and with Ivy (and now with Emma) but is realizing what she and Holly have is special. She lets Ivy influence Holly a little bit, but not much. She stays away from Seymour, is over Axel, and is in general uninterested in men, though she is on Stalkfap for financial reasons. Ian meanwhile has struggled hard to get over Gillian and is making progress. He focuses on MMA, and enjoyed the threesome with Jeremy and Alison, but the women who really intrigue him are Cherry and Minerva, and he's been building deeper relationships with both. But lately he's been thrown for a loop by Emma's affections at the beach house, and now there's three women he will have to choose between.

3 - The horndog path. Lena has abandoned Holly to Ivy, and is enjoying how Ivy is helping her change. She's sleeping with pretty much any guy she can get with, including Robert (though she finds him annoying and hopes to palm him off onto Holly), Ian, Mike, Jeremy (she's amused by the idea of stealing him from Louise), etc. She's not over Axel and can't say no to him, and is fascinated by Seymour and the financial security he can offer her, including sleeping with him to try to gain some leverage over him. While she enjoys teasing Stan, and finds it funny that he's a simp for her, she will never sleep with him. Ian is sleeping with Cindy behind Wade's back. He may or may not have real feelings for her, but right now he's having too much fun with pretty much any girl he can get with, including some hot hate-sex with Minerva and being occasional fuck buddies with Lena. He's encouraging Alison to be a bimbo, nailing Jess was especially hot, and he was pleasantly surprised by how Holly jumped his bones at the beach house. He's sorta writing his novel but isn't particularly good at it, he's sorta training for MMA but isn't particularly good at it, and he's not over Gillian by a long shot.

So there's no IanxLena path I'm playing anymore, or at least not at this stage of the game's development. I'm curious, along with the original question from Silvataurus about favorite paths, whether your favorite paths have changed significantly during the last few chapters.
 
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Is it possible for Lena and Ian to be together if Lena fuckd Jeremy?
Once you go Jeremy you don't go back.

(technically it is possible for Lena to get a small sample at Ivy's place without ruining things for herself down the road, but not going the full way. Although if she shows patience and restraint she might be able to have a threesome with Jeremy and cuck Ian at some point down the road)
Lena can still get in a relationship with Ian in chapter 12 even if she fucked with Jeremy before, provided both Lena and Ian have selected all love options previously and I guess Lena not actively fucking with Axel, Idk about Ian's side of things though.
 
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