I finally decided to do a full playthrough of GGB and I gotta say I appreciate ORS way more. you can just see how much of a quality leap between the two, especially the art style I think the art style of GBB is straight up ugly compared to ORs
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These skills are the only ones pretty accurate but Holly 3 athletics and Perry 4? Oh my lord, Eva you must be drunk
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Holly is a very witty girl, but she could use some improvement with her social and athletic skills. Luckily for her Lena and Ivy can help her with that... The ones who guessed Holly being a Virgo were of course right.
- Nov 21, 2019
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the GGGB is a hard porn game,the ORS is the (children's) version,has better graphics because it is a newer game,but it does not impress you that in ORS are there vanilla fan people? For me the GGGB is a much better game with worse graphics.
You have to remember that GGGB is in 720p resolution also, i use upscaled version and the graphics are fine in my opinion, the style is different in this one, higher resolution and more colours also, its all the matter of tastes at the end of the day, but i liked both of them.
The writing is less porny in this one, but GGGB also quite good, if u want u can even play it without any sex, drop your boyfriend, study, find a job and become internet famous, dont even need to strip for all of those.
- May 19, 2017
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My feeling is that ORS is just moving a little more slowly. I am quite sure that ORS will move towards really hard sex and kinks, but it will take a little time.
Hollys Lust at 5 ? I always knew she is a little kinky slut. 
- Nov 21, 2019
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Maybe it's as you say,but with whom to do hard porn?maybe with Ιan?
this wussy does only to sell flowers,would be good at (romeo and juliet)style games.
- May 19, 2017
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I would be surprised if the photoshoots with Axel don't evolve into hardcore porn.Maybe it's as you say,but with whom to do hard porn?maybe with Ιan?
- Jun 3, 2018
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There's no reason whatsoever that Ian can't do hard porn further on in the game - unless Eva doesn't want that. It'll probably just take some time to get to that point.Maybe it's as you say,but with whom to do hard porn?maybe with Ιan?
It seems Ian starts off with a more normal/less extreme view of sex due to having been in a long-term relationship with Gillian, which probably didn't allow for too much exploration (although apparently he was really good in bed because, iirc, Gillian told Allison enough about her sex life with Ian to leave Allison wanting to experience it herself). However, after Ian gets over Gillian enough to see other women, and really gets into the sex, we see the start of a more dominant personality coming out during sex (if the player chooses those options).
Considering Lena is getting some sort of degeneration/transformation path, it stands to reason that Ian will too - and as I said, there are already indications of it. It wouldn't make sense for only one of the MC's to have a transformation path while the other stays the same, especially in a game where both MC's are given equal shares of the story. For Ian this may be further helped along by a closer friendship with Axel and Jeremy, and choosing to move further from Perry and Wade. His involvement with Seymour may also nurture the more ruthless/dominant side to him.
- Nov 21, 2019
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thinks we speak another language,hard sex,obscene sex men with suitable character,Ian has the face of a good boys from the boys that moms adore,a director can not cast a hard killer in him Mr Bean nor to play the role of a stupid comedian Chuck Norris.
the GGGB had the right characters for the game.
with characters like Perry,Ian,Stanley I make comedies not hard porn.
- Nov 15, 2020
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Agree!
Even though Ian and Lena are far from blank slates at the beginning of the game, they’re both at points in their life where they need to find themselves again, which could go in several different directions depending on the choices of the player.
And while several seem to expect Lena – even Holly – to become super corrupted and degenerated into a state where they want to more or less sleep with anyone, anytime, there’s this strange idea about Ian being some kind of permanent weak beta guy. Even though, as you refer to, he could already be more dominant in and out of bed than at the start of the game. And if he sleeps with everyone available to him, he could already be an asshole to Wade, Perry, Alison, Holly, Lena and Minerva’s husband, at least. And that’s just for now.
I guess it might be because he doesn’t fit into a particular physical stereotype of how that type of man should look.
You are free to stick to replaying GGGB.
ORS is good as it is.
ORS is good as it is.
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Mr. Bean? What on earth are you talking about?
- Nov 25, 2019
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Axel, Mike, Jeremy, Seymour etc are hard porn material though... Even Robert.
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Ors will get a lot darker and kinkier down the line, it just goes smoothly and slowly till now...
- Mar 22, 2018
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In my opinion ORS is much more a novel than GGGB, Perry, Ian, Stanley, etc are really more complicated and alive than even Ash in GGGB. If i remember correctly EVA wants to make an interesting story not just porn, and i think she as a writer really grows up.
She already a legend in a porn games not with porn, how many games here with good and unique art, and a story like "im stuck in a window pls bro help me"? There is good, quality art but not very unique, but there is 844 pages of discussion about Ian cuck, Stan help and licking Cindy's feet because we really enjoy this characters.
I really hope someday Evakiss write a non-porn, not even a romantic book, and i bet it will be a good reading.
- Nov 5, 2018
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Agreed, I don't know what her next project might be, but a romantic non-porn dating sim would be wonderful. Probably won't happen, because Eva is such a kinky and sex-positive person.
- Nov 21, 2019
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what i'm saying Mr Bean is that can't play the role of the evil killer in a movie.(he thinks you know him Mr Bean).
- Nov 15, 2020
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So… Ian, with his pretty, kind looking face, can’t play the role of a bad guy, just like Mr. Bean, with his comic nature and looks, wouldn’t fit the role of an evil murderer? Is that what you mean?
In that case I get your point, but I don’t think I fully agree. Sure, Rowan Atkinson probably only fits as Mr. Bean or a very similar character. But casting Bryan Cranston as Walter White in Breaking Bad worked so well at least partially because everyone knew him as the dorky dad in Malcolm in the Middle. And a lot of villains in pop culture have at some point been good guys. Characters change because of what happens to them during the story. And Ian, despite admittedly seeming like a typical nice guy at the start of the game, is no exception. He might not reach the levels of Eric’s dad, the thugs or Tyrone’s friends from GGGB, but that’s just because the nature of the game. Jeremy, Axel and the other guys probably won’t either.
- Jun 3, 2018
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You're right, we do speak a different language, in that I can see how a character can be more then just how they may first appear, and that a character can grow and change (and their personality along with it), whereas you prefer the physical appearance to match the personality right from the start in order for the character to feel convincing to you. I can see how you preferred GGGB in that way - GGGB is a game that has more stereotypical characters then ORS has; in many ways it's a simpler game then ORS is. That's not a bad thing, just testament to how Eva's writing has evolved since GGGB.
As I said, I believe Ian would be every bit capable of hardcore sex acts by the end, and feel suited to the part, if Eva chooses to go that route for him. But I also believe that Axel and Jeremy probably won't become as deeply depraved as you're hoping they will, so I think how far they go will set a standard for how far Ian can potentially go. In any case, I think Ian's content will probably be around the same level of extreme that Lena's will by the end, considering how Eva tries to keep their stories somewhat equal. I'll be interested to see to what level Eva will let us customize our Ian too, like changing his hairstyle (and we know he'll be able to get tatts and probably facial hair), to better suit his changing personality. That can go a long way in altering a character from how they start out.
Will he ever be as buff as Axel - no, and will he ever have a huge dick like Jeremy - no, but I don't think he needs them to fit the part.
BTW, I'm not judging you on any of this despite how some of it may sound - it's your opinion and that's totally fine; I'm just saying it's likely the reason why we'll never see eye-to-eye on Ian. We see him very differently.