VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.3] [Eva Kiss]

[Eye-switcher]

To be fair we don't know what end result of the split is going to be, i doubt even the developer knows yet.
It might work out just fine, but end result is still an unfinished update and more delays.
Looking at the whole picture from the revamp (like it or not, worth it or not) until the unfinished split its really alooot of waiting which makes the whole game suffer and the developer to loose goodwill. Don't know if it hurts financially as her supporters seem to pay no matter what but in a lot of other businesses it certainly would.

 

[Badboll]

I don't really see how releasing Ian's part first is supposed to go in the way of fluidity

I don't think it will when everything is released. I don't see how that would happen.
Sure I'd rather have an alpha of the whole chapter at once, but I don't mind a part 1 earlier and a part 2 later.
I'm still probably getting the whole chapter 10 when I was supposed to anyway.
I mean getting her supporters some content earlier is by no means bad for her financially I don't think.
Even if most of the comments i saw on patreon said they'd rather she release everything at once.
It gets tough to release in a timely manner when you go full chapters at once. Especially when they get bigger. Which is why most devs don't and when they have and change to smaller updates the game suffers for some reason. (The Adventurous Couple is one that comes to mind)

 

[mr.hong]

Did Jeremy make Alison creampied? Their conversation in threesome video probably means Jeremy cum inside last time(maybe Ch7 video)

 

[TheBigWater]

why you cuck guys want put cuck stuff in every game.

NTR fans, like Jehovah's Witnesses, run from one thread to another and promote their weird stuff where they are not expected and not welcome

Oh, IDK, Probably for the same reason you want the things you like in a game. TO JERK OFF TO IT!

Seriously. Its not rocket surgery around here.

then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.

Does it mean playing sex games or watching porn is making people cuck? Because you are not the one that you are fcking, you are the one that's watching it.
I mean i know what you wanted to say guys but in my save Lena is not with Ian so i can't see where "cuck" theme is there. In my playthrough Ian is with Holly and is "brother from another mother" with Jeremy. If i had a chance to send to Jeremy video where Ian is fcking Holly i would do that for my bro Jeremy because he did the same for me lol. There are already scene's where Jeremy is sending Alison pics to Ian. I don't understand why it's okay but if that would be Lena it's not okay

 

[JohnnyKiss]

then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.

This is a cuck game, tho? There literally is a "NTR" tag...

 

[BlandChili]

It's whatever kind of game you want it to be.

I'd argue ORS isn't the most optimal game for cuckoldry, but the content is there if you like to choose it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Does it mean playing sex games or watching porn is making people cuck? Because you are not the one that you are fcking, you are the one that's watching it.
I mean i know what you wanted to say guys but in my save Lena is not with Ian so i can't see where "cuck" theme is there. In my playthrough Ian is with Holly and is "brother from another mother" with Jeremy. If i had a chance to send to Jeremy video where Ian is fcking Holly i would do that for my bro Jeremy because he did the same for me lol. There are already scene's where Jeremy is sending Alison pics to Ian. I don't understand why it's okay but if that would be Lena it's not okay

Here I partially agree with you, the path with Jeremy that you described is not cuckold, it's more like "sharing girls for sex". They are friends with benefits, but not couples.
We all know the definition of a cuckold. A man who gives his wife/girlfriend to other men and enjoys it. The psychology of considering cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism when a cuckold takes pleasure in humiliation. At the same time, unlike "open relationships", cuck doesn't have the right to have affairs with other women.
I want to say right away - I have nothing against games that have a cuckold theme - I just bypass them. If there is an optional NTR in the game (in the understanding of the cuck, I don’t mind stealing someone else’s girl) - I will bypass it. Judging by the reactions to my post, which turned out to be controversial.
I wrote about some individuals who love this genre. They are really too intrusive and love to get into the thread with their fantasies "I want to watch Lena get fucked by Axel, Ian looks, jerks off and can't do anything" It's a little creepy and weird, isn't it? [Louise Mod Activated]
At the moment, there is no full-fledged NTR cuckolding for Ian in the game. But knowing Eva, she will most likely add this.

 

[Night Hacker]

Since the beginning this game has a setup for cuckold with Ian being able to ask Jeremy for photos/videos of him (Jeremy) fucking Alison if players choose it. Not my thing by far, that's why i avoid it, but you rant against "cuck stuff" in a game that already have it doesn't make much sense.

Nah, that's not cucking unless Ian and Jeremy are a couple. It's just normal friends bragging about their female conquests. I haven't seen any cucking in this game. Cheating, but that's not the same.

 

[alexferno]

Here I partially agree with you, the path with Jeremy that you described is not cuckold, it's more like "sharing girls for sex". They are friends with benefits, but not couples.
We all know the definition of a cuckold. A man who gives his wife/girlfriend to other men and enjoys it. The psychology of considering cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism when a cuckold takes pleasure in humiliation. At the same time, unlike "open relationships", cuck doesn't have the right to have affairs with other women.
I want to say right away - I have nothing against games that have a cuckold theme - I just bypass them. If there is an optional NTR in the game (in the understanding of the cuck, I don’t mind stealing someone else’s girl) - I will bypass it. Judging by the reactions to my post, which turned out to be controversial.
I wrote about some individuals who love this genre. They are really too intrusive and love to get into the thread with their fantasies "I want to watch Lena get fucked by Axel, Ian looks, jerks off and can't do anything" It's a little creepy and weird, isn't it? [Louise Mod Activated]
At the moment, there is no full-fledged NTR cuckolding for Ian in the game. But knowing Eva, she will most likely add this.

Nah, that's not cucking unless Ian and Jeremy are a couple. It's just normal friends bragging about their female conquests. I haven't seen any cucking in this game. Cheating, but that's not the same.

Depending on your choices, Ian can also have a voyeuristic kink and asks Jeremy to send pictures of him fucking Alison/Emma/Louise? and masturbates to those pictures.
Cheat‌ing, NTR and Cuckolding are different things. NTR revolves around the idea of a loved one being stolen through sex. Cuckolding is consensual and desired by the cuck.

 

[Tiago Patrício]

Any news?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Nah, that's not cucking unless Ian and Jeremy are a couple. It's just normal friends bragging about their female conquests. I haven't seen any cucking in this game. Cheating, but that's not the same.

Disagree here. It's not 100% cuckolding in the technical sense. But Ian repeatedly getting off to watching a huge-dicked friend dicking down a girl he likes and has the hots for is cuck-lite at the very least. Extremely on-theme for that sort of fetish. It's kind of in the ballpark of someone claiming not to be gay for licking the occasional nut but never going full-blown anal.

 

[Night Hacker]

Depending on your choices, Ian can also have a voyeuristic kink and asks Jeremy to send pictures of him fucking Alison/Emma/Louise? and masturbates to those pictures.
Cheat‌ing, NTR and Cuckolding are different things. NTR revolves around the idea of a loved one being stolen through sex. Cuckolding is consensual and desired by the cuck.

According to Wikipedia: "Cuckold: Husband of an adulterous wife"
According to Merriam-Webster: "Cuckold: a man whose wife is unfaithful"

So no, it doesn't apply to Ian and Jeremy. Doesn't apply to anyone in this game. Both NTR and cuck's seem to be the same and basically consentual where usually the guy likes his wife fooling around on him. None of them refer to friends sharing pics of their female conquests.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

According to Wikipedia: "Cuckold: Husband of an adulterous wife"
According to Merriam-Webster: "Cuckold: a man whose wife is unfaithful"

So no, it doesn't apply to Ian and Jeremy. Doesn't apply to anyone in this game. Both NTR and cuck's seem to be the same and basically consentual where usually the guy likes his wife fooling around on him. None of them refer to friends sharing pics of their female conquests.

That's why I said not 100% on technical definition in my post. But this is surely in the ballpark for those into such a fetish.

 

[Night Hacker]

That's why I said not 100% on technical definition in my post. But this is surely in the ballpark for those into such a fetish.

Sorry, no disrespect intended, but I strongly disagree. They're not a couple, just friends sharing pics of their female conquests. It simply doesn't quality, not even close, I mean, heck, they're both males and not even close to married.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Sorry, no disrespect intended, but I strongly disagree. They're not a couple, just friends sharing pics of their female conquests. It simply doesn't quality, not even close, I mean, heck, they're both males and not even close to married.

I know you're doing an Ian/Jeremy joke here. But still, my point is that an Ian getting off to this is in the ballpark for people into that kink. It all depends on how the user plays their Ian though. If he's played "alpha" competitive where they're exchanging girls, then it's more "no homo" dude-bro. If it's played with an Ian that's not out smashing every night, there are strong cuck tones even though it isn't cuckoldry by definition. Especially considering that in the majority of paths where this is accessible, Ian hasn't done his best with Alison. Eva included these scenes for a reason and based on both the choices Ian can make here and some strong tones from Eva's last game, I'd bet a large part of it was to appease that demo.

Keep in mind, this is a game of choices with a lot of paths, trying to please a bunch of different users. That's a large part of why it's been so difficult for Eva to make.

 

[alexferno]

According to Wikipedia: "Cuckold: Husband of an adulterous wife"
According to Merriam-Webster: "Cuckold: a man whose wife is unfaithful"

So no, it doesn't apply to Ian and Jeremy. Doesn't apply to anyone in this game. Both NTR and cuck's seem to be the same and basically consentual where usually the guy likes his wife fooling around on him. None of them refer to friends sharing pics of their female conquests.

I didn't say it applied to anyone in the game. There's no "real" cuck content in the game yet, but it seems to be headed in that direction.
NTR and cuckolding aren't the same thing. Cuckolding is consensual, whereas NTR doesn't have to be consensual. Sometimes the person getting NTR'd is oblivious to the whole thing.

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[dontcarewhateverno]

I didn't say it applied to anyone in the game. There's no "real" cuck content in the game yet, but it seems to be headed in that direction.
NTR and cuckolding aren't the same thing. Cuckolding is consensual, whereas NTR doesn't have to be consensual. Sometimes the person getting NTR'd is oblivious to the whole thing.

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Cuckolding isn't always consensual either or always enjoyed by the person being cucked. The original term was actually used to denote a man whose wife was cheating on him, assumingly without his consent. It's all the linguistics of constantly evolving words meaning different things to different people. Most using your definition are people into NTR in that circle of the internet. Others not generally familiar with the term NTR wouldn't mostly define it like that. Honestly, most of these definitions are in flux, especially with the catalyst of the internet, with the majority of people using them just making things up as they go along, based on how they became familiar with the terms. Linguistics be crazy like that.

But basically there's now a fetish term and a technical term, the former disagreed upon and constantly redefined much more than the latter.

 

[alexferno]

Cuckolding isn't always consensual either or always enjoyed by the person being cucked. The original term was actually used to denote a man whose wife was cheating on him, assumingly without his consent. It's all the linguistics of constantly evolving words meaning different things to different people. Most using your definition are people into NTR in that circle of the internet. Others not generally familiar with the term NTR wouldn't mostly define it like that. Honestly, most of these definitions are in flux, especially with the catalyst of the internet, with the majority of people using them just making things up as they go along, based on how they became familiar with the terms. Linguistics be crazy like that.

But basically there's now a fetish term and a technical term, the former disagreed upon and constantly redefined much more than the latter.

How do you differentiate these two terms?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

How would you differentiate these two terms?

Technical: Simply a man whose s/o is cheating on him or sleeps with other men, with or without his consent. Fetish term: Constantly changing & a pretty large umbrella. But being that it's a fetish, that would mean the person with the fetish gets some sexual gratification from the idea of an s/o (real or imagined) either cheating on them or openly getting railed by other guys - though usually not leaving them for those other guys, which is more on the NTR end. Ironically, current plot points in ORS more align with the technical definition (Ian/Cindy can cuck Wade, for instance). But the Jeremy/Alison/Ian cellphone situation more spiritually aligns with the second term. Even if the situation isn't a 100% match, it does have a set-up in that theme. Considering the amount of work it takes to make any scene in the game & based on the decisions it takes to get to those scenes, I can only imagine they were included at least partially to please those fetishists, even if you can play it off as a dude-bros swapping photos thing too, depending on your path. Not sure if Eva will ever go full on cuck with this one like she did with GGGB though, since as you can see from many of these forum posts, some people would flip the fuck out, even if they could just avoid that path. Even in a choice-based game, "preferences for me, but not for thee".

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Here are some basics back to the topic, though. Eva has made two games. In 2/2 games, she's intentionally created scenarios where a male character jerks off to a girl he's either into or dating getting railed by a huge black dick. (Also worth noting with Alison that she's also still into Ian emotionally, not Jeremy, even if she's screwing J). On top of that, both games feature multiple paths with female MC screwing around on her boyfriend (both committed and non) with a host of other guys. There are enough paths where you can avoid all of this, but plenty of paths where it's a huge part of the game, too. Given the rarity of that situation in the vast majority of non-cuck/NTR games and the host of fetishes she could've included but didn't, it's hard to conclude this wasn't one of the variety of demographics she was trying to hit when designing them. Even if the second game doesn't yet have an outright, checks-every-single-column-on-the-list cuck path that the first game did, the elements are still very much there.

So, sorry, guys! You're playing a cuck game! lol. Nah. I'm not saying that at all. But I think that's what some people fear. "How will I think of myself now?!?" Which is why they're so aggressive about it.

But you are playing a game with a multitude of paths and an aim to please a multitude of people. Deal with it.