VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Chuck_Bass]

Just my 2 cents on the whole NTR thing... There isn't any. Really. Ask someone who is into those fetishes.

I am not a fan of the whole "humiliatiing the protagonist" thing, but I can appreciate corrupting someone into being cuck (and corrupting the girl into being slut or evil or whatever)... You can't get this content for Ian in this game. That is, if you aren't going out of your way to get those fetishes (playing Lena as a slut and denying Ian, for example). Just play Ian as a chad and he will be one. Even for open relationships and sharing you need to actually choose this.

Alison running to Jeremy anytime Ian is with someone else is not NTR. Lena fucking someone because you chose so is not NTR. Cyndi getting touched by the photographer during the shoot is not NTR.

NTR occurs ONLY when you are in some sort of relationship with the partner (not the open one) and than said partner cheats on you (have sex with someone else). No stable, closed relationships == no NTR.

Basically this.
In this game you can basically cuckold your friend(Wade) but if you get a little competition for the women who is not in a relationship with you the people cry about NTR. What the hell.
Do you really expect all the women around you to be nuns until Ian decides to make his move?

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

It's nothing to do with skewed writing or corruption. Women, specially beautiful ones will naturally have more option than the average guy bedroom wise, and will constantly be chased by guys. That's just how life is.

Uh no shit sherlock which is exactly why we play games to escape that reality

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Uh no shit sherlock which is exactly why we play games to escape that reality

Play a Harem game than

 

[NukaCola]

-If you want to go with Holly with Lena you can pursue Ian.

Thank you for taking the time to answer. But Lena won't kiss Holly if she is in a relationship with Ian or Ian is with Holly so how?

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Thank you for taking the time to answer. But Lena won't kiss Holly if she is in a relationship with Ian or Ian is with Holly so how?

Just don't go for Ian as Lena and don't go for Holly and Lena with Ian

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Play a Harem game than

That's not my fantasy - that's no knock on those who like it, let them eat cake.

 

[NukaCola]

Just don't go for Ian as Lena and don't go for Holly and Lena with Ian

But there is no option to decline Ian as Lena. I know there is a option to break up with Ian if you date Robert or Mike...etc but single Lena don't have that option. She automatically go on date with Ian.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

But there is no option to decline Ian as Lena. I know there is a option to break up with Ian if you date Robert or Mike...etc but single Lena don't have that option. She automatically go on date with Ian.

Dude, just don't send a message to Lena as Ian and when the option with Lena comes just stay away from Ian. It's really not complicated.

EDIT:
At some point you will have this option if you added he to polegram:

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Dont do it.

And when playing with Lena you will have an option to ignore Ian:

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Just keep choosing options against their relationship.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

LOL.
It's a little racist to presume people will dislike someone just because they are black. People who only see color usually are secretly huge racists themselves.

"I'm not racist for saying racist thing; It's actually YOU who is racist for calling me out on it!"

Anyway, Axel and Lena got lots of history and some unresolved feeling, it's more natural for them to be involved. Jeremy is just a random guy with a big dick.

"Jeremy is just a random guy with a big dick" how do you think people actually meet and get together? Do you think people are just born into relationships? You do realize everyone is a random person to everyone until they meet, which is exactly what we see happen right in front of you, lmao.

I'm not going to call you racist for obvious racial biases you have but it's weird to be fine with Axel, a white male, fucking Lena while having issues that Jeremy, a black male, does the same.

 

[Sh-cln]

is this game close to the end?

 

[Chuck_Bass]

"I'm not racist for saying racist thing; It's actually YOU who is racist for calling me out on it!"


"Jeremy is just a random guy with a big dick" how do you think people actually meet and get together? Do you think people are just born into relationships? You do realize everyone is a random person to everyone until they meet, which is exactly what we see happen right in front of you, lmao.

I'm not going to call you racist for obvious racial biases you have but it's weird to be fine with Axel, a white male, fucking Lena while having issues that Jeremy, a black male, does the same.

1. I never had any problem with Jeremy doing things with Lena or any other girl in the game. I said it's more likely she will fall for Axel again because they had history and Unresolved feelings for each other.

2. I am not the guy who sees color in every direction. Axel could be green for all I care.

3. You are the racist because all you see is black and white. Where I live it's kinda hard being a racist since we are more mixed than the USA, we got people from all over the Middle East, Europe(East and west), North Africa, Ethiopia, South and North America and even India. I dated an Ethiopian girl in high school and had plenty of middle eastern girlfriends. How is this possible for a racist? I don't care about color.

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And on top of that, I have been listening to American hip hop all my life which is mainly dominated by black people. I must be the most self loathing racist in the world.

 

[NukaCola]

Dude, just don't send a message to Lena as Ian and when the option with Lena comes just stay away from Ian. It's really not complicated.

EDIT:
At some point you will have this option if you added he to polegram:

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Dont do it.

And when playing with Lena you will have an option to ignore Ian:

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Just keep choosing options against their relationship.

Thanks. And please calm down. I don't see those options because its early in the game and I'm trying to reload from chapter 5

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Thanks. And please calm down. I don't see those options because its early in the game and I'm trying to reload from chapter 5

Yeah, sorry about that, I am a bit sick today and feel like shit and been in a bit of a sour mood because of that.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

1. I never had any problem with Jeremy doing things with Lena or any other girl in the game. I said it's more likely she will fall for Axel again because they had history and Unresolved feelings for each other.

2. I am not the guy who sees color in every direction. Axel could be green for all I care.

3. You are the racist because all you see is black and white. Where I live it's kinda hard being a racist since we are more mixed than the USA, we got people from all over the Middle East, Europe(East and west), North Africa, Ethiopia, South and North America and even India. I dated an Ethiopian girl in high school and had plenty of middle eastern girlfriends. How is this possible for a racist? I don't care about color.

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And on top of that, I have been listening to American hip hop all my life which is mainly dominated by black people. I must be the most self loathing racist in the world.

This is legit some of the most embarrassing shit I have ever read on this site, lmao.

"I can't be racist, I LISTEN TO HIP HOP!"

 

[Chuck_Bass]

This is legit some of the most embarrassing shit I have ever read on this site, lmao.

"I can't be racist, I have black friends!"

That's a very compelling argument, well done.
And no, I actually don't have any black friends, just dated one black girl in high school, I do have a couple of brown friends tho, but I am not "not racist" because of that, It's because I don't have black and white glasses like you and I don't see color in everything because I don't care about color.

 

[ffive]

Just tested, Lena can fuck Mike, Mark, Axel, dildo herself in front of Seymour, hmmmm am I missing anyone? I can't believe we're arguing over this - when you're in the club, Ian literally has 1 sexual option. Lena literally has 3 (4/5 if you count lesbians). There's no point in trying to convince you in how skewed the writing is towards a female-corruption playthrough, its practically the point of the game.

Could you please stick to the discussed issue? Your original complaint which i was addressing was " I just want some damn consistency- if one protagonist can screw around after the relationship start, why can't the other?" I have pointed out that statement was bullshit.

Instead of having some basic grace to admit it, you're now moving goal posts: "oh but Lena can cheat with more people!" It's not what the complaint was originally about. Both protagonists can screw around after their relationship starts, there's your oh so precious consistency, end of story.

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also, if you want to talk skewed writing... fun fact, excluding protagonists Ian has 6 girls he can fuck (Alison, Cherry, Cindy, Emma, Holly, Minerva) while Lena only gets 4 guys (Axel, Mark, Mike, Robert) But oddly enough you don't seem to complain about this disparity or how it makes the writing skewed towards a male-slut playthrough. Wonder why?

This game isn't a Parity Commitee where both sides are forced to match tit for tat. Each protagonist gets some perks over the other. Maybe don't gets so obsessed with how greener the grass seems to be across the fence, because you can easily overlook the appeals of your own plot this way.

edit2: forgot Jeremy on Lena's side; that makes it 6v5 but the point stands.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Could you please stick to the discussed issue? Your original complaint which i was addressing was " I just want some damn consistency- if one protagonist can screw around after the relationship start, why can't the other?" I have pointed out that statement was bullshit.

Instead of having some basic grace to admit it, you're now moving goal posts: "oh but Lena can cheat with more people!" It's not what the complaint was originally about. Both protagonists can screw around after their relationship starts, there's your oh so precious consistency, end of story.

I have to check it out again but I am pretty sure you can screw around with Emma, Minerva and Cherry after the relationship started.

 

[ffive]

I have to check it out again but I am pretty sure you can screw around with Emma, Minerva and Cherry after the relationship started.

Emma automatically backs off in chapter 10 when she knows Ian is in relationship with Lena, since she's Lena's friend. Though i think it may be possible to sext her during card game in chapter 9, not sure. Cherry similarly will only get involved with Ian in chapter 9 if he can truthfully say he's got no deeper feelings for Lena, an option which will be disabled if he's in relationship.

Minerva continues to be an option, yes.

 

[Abazzaba]

is this game close to the end?

Seems to be roughly half way done.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Could you please stick to the discussed issue? Your original complaint which i was addressing was " I just want some damn consistency- if one protagonist can screw around after the relationship start, why can't the other?" I have pointed out that statement was bullshit.

Instead of having some basic grace to admit it, you're now moving goal posts: "oh but Lena can cheat with more people!" It's not what the complaint was originally about. Both protagonists can screw around after their relationship starts, there's your oh so precious consistency, end of story.

edit:
also, if you want to talk skewed writing... fun fact, excluding protagonists Ian has 6 girls he can fuck (Alison, Cherry, Cindy, Emma, Holly, Minerva) while Lena only gets 4 guys (Axel, Mark, Mike, Robert) But oddly enough you don't seem to complain about this disparity or how it makes the writing skewed towards a male-slut playthrough. Wonder why?

This game isn't a Parity Commitee where both sides are forced to match tit for tat. Each protagonist gets some perks over the other. Maybe don't gets so obsessed with how greener the grass seems to be across the fence, because you can easily overlook the appeals of your own plot this way.

My discussed issue isn't some enumeration of sex partners, it's the broader subtext of how the game plays. If there's no convincing you, then there's no convincing you, and that's that.