mommysboiii

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If you base your take of their friendship strictly on Ivy's lifestyle, then by your logic, shouldn't she find not-slutty Lena who is in love with Ian boring as well? Why does she keep asking her out to hang out and stuff if she knows that this type of Lena will never agree with her on her attempts to manipulate people or fuck without concern for anybody? Maybe because Ivy feels lonely and simply likes Lena's company, regardless of whether Lena does her bidding or not? She likes being friends with Lena period, she doesn't make condition for their friendship. She doesn't get mad at Lena for anything, not for refusing to see Axel, not for protecting Holly, not for dating Ian, not even for lezzing out with Louise. Relationship drops are always minimal and don't really affect their day-to-day interactions.
I agree with you on the bottom text about consistency with personalities depending what decissions you make but I have no idea what happened in the past with ivy and lena it seems like they are friends for a LONG time and indeed it would not make sens for someone like ivy to be friends with good/nerdy/artist...... lena but if lena protected her in the past from something or maybe ivy has a terrible past with her parents(alceholic father.....) and lena was there for her in the right moment this would explain why a cheracter like ivy would be friends with lena even if normaly she would look down on that kind of lena but holly dosent have something like that with ivy ivy is only interested in holly because she likes to teach/corrupt her

I just cant imagin a ivy that listening to hollys problems or talking about books or how amazing ian is and how much in love she is with ian ............
 
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SerHawkes

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I agree with you on the bottom text about consistency with personalities depending what decissions you make but I have no idea what happened in the past with ivy and lena it seems like they are friends for a LONG time and indeed it would not make sens for someone like ivy to be friends with good/nerdy/artist...... lena but if lena protected her in the past from something or maybe ivy has a terrible past with her parents(alceholic father.....) and lena was there for her in the right moment this would explain why a cheracter like ivy would be friends with lena even if normaly she would look down on that kind of lena but holly dosent have something like that with ivy ivy is only interested in holly because she likes to teach/corrupt her
For the love of fuck.. There are Periods and Commas.,

Second, who gives a fuck about the rationalization of Ivy and Holly being friends? You have people in the real world with friendships that are entirely unexpected and work just fine.

This circle jerk of your claim that Ivy is only interested in Holly to corrupt her and only sees her as such is a fucking joke. There is more to her, let alone other character than what is on the surface. Then again, it's pointless arguing with certain people who have blinders on and refuse to see anything but what they only see.
 

Blurpee69

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I agree with you on the bottom text about consistency with personalities depending what decissions you make but I have no idea what happened in the past with ivy and lena it seems like they are friends for a LONG time and indeed it would not make sens for someone like ivy to be friends with good/nerdy/artist...... lena but if lena protected her in the past from something or maybe ivy has a terrible past with her parents(alceholic father.....) and lena was there for her in the right moment this would explain why a cheracter like ivy would be friends with lena even if normaly she would look down on that kind of lena but holly dosent have something like that with ivy ivy is only interested in holly because she likes to teach/corrupt her
She likes Holly, because Holly is Lena's friend, and Holly has shown a willingness and courage to try something new and to change who she is. What so many people keep calling corruption is really just Ivy encouraging Holly to keep changing and trying new things. Ivy is just doing it in her own way, and in the way Ivy knows best and will take cues from Lena on how to interact with Holly. If Lena is encouraging the more slutty behavior, then Ivy will go with that; if Lena is more protective of Holly the Ivy backs off.

Also of note, Ivy seems to have a genuine soft spot for more quiet and subdued characters. Look at how she interacts with Perry on their first meeting, she showed an immediate fondness for him the second she learned he had a speech impediment. So why is it so hard to believe that she wouldn't like a more artistically inclined Lena?
 

SerHawkes

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She likes Holly, because Holly is Lena's friend, and Holly has shown a willingness and courage to try something new and to change who she is. What so many people keep calling corruption is really just Ivy encouraging Holly to keep changing and trying new things. Ivy is just doing it in her own way, and in the way Ivy knows best and will take cues from Lena on how to interact with Holly. If Lena is encouraging the more slutty behavior, then Ivy will go with that; if Lena is more protective of Holly the Ivy backs off.

Also of note, Ivy seems to have a genuine soft spot for more quiet and subdued characters. Look at how she interacts with Perry on their first meeting, she showed an immediate fondness for him the second she learned he had a speech impediment. So why is it so hard to believe that she wouldn't like a more artistically inclined Lena?
Truer words never thought to be spoken.

I think it's hard for certain someones to believe simply because they have their heads buried where the sun doesn't shine, where 2+2=8, and any true common sense is out the window. They see what they want to see and refuse to see anything other than the certain narrative that they themselves put forth.
 

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Also of note, Ivy seems to have a genuine soft spot for more quiet and subdued characters. Look at how she interacts with Perry on their first meeting, she showed an immediate fondness for him the second she learned he had a speech impediment. So why is it so hard to believe that she wouldn't like a more artistically inclined Lena?
Good call. I hadn't considered this. If this is a real tendency of Ivy's, meaning it's part of Eva's conception of her personality, it adds some interesting nuance to her character.
 

Esti

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Can somebody tell me how I can get Lena and Ian in an open relationship? And how I can get a threesome with Ivy for Lena?

On the other note:
mommysboiii doesn't have a case here. Ivy can be genuine with Lena and Holly, there is nothing out of the ordinary there. Friendships like this do happen and I know some unlikely friends like that myself. I think mommysboiii just wants his theories to be true because it could grant him what he truly wishes: cucked from the every angle Ian. But I'm afraid games, which aren't only for cuck connoisseurs, aren't made that way.
 

BloodyMares

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Can somebody tell me how I can get Lena and Ian in an open relationship? And how I can get a threesome with Ivy for Lena?
Disclaimer: For now open relationship requirement only bypasses the Lust check for Lena to accept the threesome. You can't keep sleeping with other people on your own. Well, you can cheat, but it has nothing to do with an open relationship.

With that out of the way, to access it you need in Chapter 9 during "the talk":
1) Lena who is sleeping with either Louise, Robert, or Mike. The key word IS sleeping, not banged a couple of times and kicked to the curb.
2) Ian who is either dating Alison/Cherry OR banged Emma/Minerva OR kissed Cindy OR with 5 Lust.

Then, the option to go for an open relationship will come up.

To get the threesome with Ivy and Holly in the showers, Lena should have sex with Ivy in Chapter 10, and then either Holly should be in sexual relationship with Ivy (after Chapter 8) or Lena should have a sexual relationship with Holly. For the latter, neither Holly nor Lena can date Ian.
 

dolfe67

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Holly and Ivy are good friends because both are pushed down our throats by Evakiss.
Notice how Holly is back at the pole dancing even if you told her to fuck off,the geek has to be on Lena ass always like a dog.
You're harsh but yeah Holly coming to pole dancing after having said it's not for her is a bit jarring and screams "combine branching to trim paths"
 

ArcherHades46

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FOR GALLERY:
Start new game select cheat game mode, select unlock gallery and save game after prologue.

As long as that save file is not deleted Gallery will be unlocked for future too. Also you can Disable it same way just select Disable gallery.
Thank you!
 

dontcarewhateverno

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There was a bikini poll posted 3 days ago. I'm guessing she's also deciding on the bikini to be used for it. But idk.
Yeah. I saw that she posted the actual poll 3 days back (though I don't have access to the poll myself to read). But the original post from 5 days ago that originally mentioned the upcoming bikini poll also said the Final would be released in a couple days, which means last Wednesday. I was just wondering if she'd mentioned anything about the delay and a new time estimate for release. I don't think the bikini will be seen in the chapter final or is associated with the delay at all, at least based on what she wrote on Monday. The poll is just routine Patreon service to keep fans satiated as she preps for Chapter 12, afaik.
 
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LoneWaker59

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If Ian is in an open relationship with Lena, why does he feel the need to end all ties with Alison? If I'm not mistaken, you lose Cheryl too, but hers makes more sense because of the past with Lena...
 

JoeSte91

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Hmm ok i kind of get the complaint, but then on the other hand one could argue that Holly simply falling under influence of Lena/Ivy even if she's in relationship with Ian ignores the agency Ian (as the other MC) has in this setup. That she doesn't can be boring for some players, but on the other hand it can be source of satisfaction for another group of players, that they can actually have a vanilla relationship with a girl that doesn't end up with her getting "turned into a slut" and cheating on their male MC, despite her friends trying to mess things up.

You can say this is a boring route, but then having everything to follow the same trajectory can be viewed just as boring, too, and an exception from it shakes things up. Depending who you ask.
I guess I just don't see it as a contest of agency in that way, since I, the player am the one in control of both MCs. If I want to keep Holly pure, I can choose to do so with my decision making by both choices.

If I choose to roleplay Ian as one way or another, or Lena as one way or another, it would just be nice to see the effects that the different roles have on the npcs, from my perspective.

But I do agree it's a very subjective thing, and not everyone experiences it the same way. Ultimately only Eva Kiss' vision matters.
 

MikeOG

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i got this problem while watching the gallery and my game does not have any mod

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/story/chapter_8.rpy", line 4591, in <module>
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'int' and 'str'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "scripts/story/chapter_8.rpyc", line 4591, in script
File "D:\AVN\3 Our Red String\Our Red String\renpy\ast.py", line 1131, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "D:\AVN\3 Our Red String\Our Red String\renpy\python.py", line 1061, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/scripts/story/chapter_8.rpy", line 4591, in <module>
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'int' and 'str'

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809
Our Red String v11_Alpha
Sat Jul 22 19:42:33 2023
 

JoeSte91

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Like I told mommysboi, the sure way to corrupt Holly while she's dating Ian is to corrupt her first, and THEN make Ian reciprocate her advances. This way she already is open to having multiple sex partners and can prioritize Ivy's advice above anything else, even if she becomes Ian's girlfriend in the future. Same outcome, no?
Just because you reach the same destination doesn't make the journey equal.


And just because she can't cheat while in a happy relationship with Ian doesn't mean she won't be corrupted. She can already pose for nude photo shoots for Lena, maybe she can be persuaded to start a Stalkfap to combat her shyness, and Ian, if he's a voyeur, could support this idea and encourage Holly to work on her confidence even if it ends up biting him in the ass (making Holly too excited and eager to try new things). I say just be more patient and wait for the story to be developed further so that we could have more opportunities to not only sabotage the current relationships but also make them more exciting.
I am being patient. I'm not sitting here saying Eva is the worst for fixing a glitch. I didn't even know I wanted this until the glitch happened. And now all I'm saying is that this would have been an interesting opportunity to make Lena's decisions affect Holly, and by extension Ian's relationship. So it would be possible to play Ian as a loving boyfriend and still have Holly lured away. Because by all accounts, Ian was a good and loving boyfriend to Gillian, and thought everything was going good enough that he expected her to move for him. And she ended up cheating. So we could even say it's poetic, that it gives the player the option of making history repeat itself.

Maybe that'll still happen later down the road. I dunno that. You would know that better than me probably. My only contention this whole time is that letting Lena influence that decision on that particular path would get the ball rolling a little earlier and a little faster down that slippery slope. It's obviously not happening though, so I'll wait and see what comes up in later releases.
 
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