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"She was studying linguistics and literature, the same as me. Unfortunately, I had been forced to drop out two years ago..."
    "If that hadn't happened, I would probably be on my way to getting my master's degree, like Louise was."
Louise
OOh, nice. I've missed that one and it's bit weird they don't talk about studying the same thing ever in the game that i can remember, but oh well.
 
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OOh, nice. I've missed that one and it's bit weird they don't talk about studying the same thing ever in the game that i can remember, but oh well.
They discuss it in chapter 1, so yeah, it's pretty early in the game where EK was giving the characters some background. It's the same with Alison and others.
 
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I have one route where Lena is a pure bitch. She bullies Stan, steals from Molly and Ed, hates the homeless, kicks the dog, hates her mother and also hates Cindy's guts. She also has an affair with Seymour and Axel while in a relationship with Ian. And she successfully hides it from Ian. Though Ian is no saint either. He is cheating with everyone he can get his grubby paws on. I call this the evil Ian and Lena playthrough, with Ian focusing on charisma stat and Lena focusing on wits stat.
I always play Lena like that - that's the best way to play Lena,but to me she also dislikes Ian but just before two days i decide to see if I can make her to make fun of Ian if she agree to dates him and i found there is such a option - Ian fall on love with Lena while all she do is only giving him footjobs and handjobs only and to fuck her fingers but never let him fuck her and also says "Do you want to know why your cock is special? Because is the only one i will not fuck" and also convice him to have a threesome with another guy but a whole different threesome "Imagine someone fucking me while you fuck my fingers" :ROFLMAO: - in that case Ian is a cuck but for that he needs to break with Cindy or to just don't be in relationship with her and also Lena should not invite him to her place and when after the fight with Ian and Robert in the gallery when Lena speak with Ian after that and he asks "I guess i ruined our date?" Lena should say "Yes" and then tell Robert they can still hang out and be fuck buddys and go to her place with him - later when happens she will has a option to forgive Ian and if you do it you will start the cuck Ian route - it's pretty fun actually! :LOL::devilish:

PS: Ian also needs to follow Gillian and in his dream with her he needs to choose "this isn't happening" and after that when Gillian says "do you wanna see?" he needs to choose "Yes" so later he can share his dream with Lena that will start making him cuck in this case!
 
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What did Louise study?, because I seem to remember she's jobless. Maybe she studied some bullshit degree.

Also, child support doesn't depend on the mother being poor, you have to pay it for the child no matter how much money the mother makes. At least it's like that in Spain as far as I know.
That's not how CS works :KEK:. You reap what you sow.
Time to get underground then
 

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I wonder if in an Ian/Lena threesome hunter relationship, slutty Holly can be added late, but without locking in the Holly Trinity. Holly Trinity is still the top tier, but a slew of threesomes seems pretty decent too. I'm not a huge fan of slutty Holly, but leaving her pining alone is kinda sad, and the Trinity seems to block all subsequent threesomes.
 
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I wonder if in an Ian/Lena threesome hunter relationship, slutty Holly can be added late, but without locking in the Holly Trinity. Holly Trinity is still the top tier, but a slew of threesomes seems pretty decent too. I'm not a huge fan of slutty Holly, but leaving her pining alone is kinda sad, and the Trinity seems to block all subsequent threesomes.
Holly isn't alone. She's got Stan :whistle:
 
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I always play Lena like that - that's the best way to play Lena,but to me she also dislikes Ian but just before two days i decide to see if I can make her to make fun of Ian if she agree to dates him and i found there is such a option - Ian fall on love with Lena while all she do is only giving him footjobs and handjobs only and to fuck her fingers but never let him fuck her and also says "Do you want to know why your cock is special? Because is the only one i will not fuck" and also convice him to have a threesome with another guy but a whole different threesome "Imagine someone fucking me while you fuck my fingers" :ROFLMAO: - in that case Ian is a cuck but for that he needs to break with Cindy or to justdon't be in relationship with her and also Lena should not invite him to her place and when after the fight with Ian and Robert in the gallery when Lena speak with Ian after that and he asks "I guess i ruined our date?" Lena should say "Yes" and then tell Robert they can still hang and be fuck buddys andgo to her place with him - later when happens she will has a option to forgive Ian and if you do it you will start the cuck Ian route - it's pretty fun actually! :LOL::devilish:

PS: Ian also needs to follow Gillian and in his dream with her he needs to choose "this isn't happening" and after that when Gillian says "do you wanna see?" he needs to choose "Yes" so later he can share his dream with Lena that will start making him cuck in this case!
I think that in a way I can understand your mindset; in my gameplay for example Ian is half cuck and half alpha; at the same time that he can fuck several women, he still has a hard-on for seeing the characters with other men and without a shadow of a doubt still has a soft spot for Gillian, aka "the hottest redhead in the game". I can't wait for Seymour to sink Ian's mind into perversion and turn him into his apprentice, that way Ian can turn Gillian into a cock addict.
 

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I always play Lena like that - that's the best way to play Lena,but to me she also dislikes Ian but just before two days i decide to see if I can make her to make fun of Ian if she agree to dates him and i found there is such a option - Ian fall on love with Lena while all she do is only giving him footjobs and handjobs only and to fuck her fingers but never let him fuck her and also says "Do you want to know why your cock is special? Because is the only one i will not fuck" and also convice him to have a threesome with another guy but a whole different threesome "Imagine someone fucking me while you fuck my fingers" :ROFLMAO: - in that case Ian is a cuck but for that he needs to break with Cindy or to justdon't be in relationship with her and also Lena should not invite him to her place and when after the fight with Ian and Robert in the gallery when Lena speak with Ian after that and he asks "I guess i ruined our date?" Lena should say "Yes" and then tell Robert they can still hang and be fuck buddys andgo to her place with him - later when happens she will has a option to forgive Ian and if you do it you will start the cuck Ian route - it's pretty fun actually! :LOL::devilish:

PS: Ian also needs to follow Gillian and in his dream with her he needs to choose "this isn't happening" and after that when Gillian says "do you wanna see?" he needs to choose "Yes" so later he can share his dream with Lena that will start making him cuck in this case!
OH,i forgot to mention that when speaking with Cindy in the club and she asks if Ian don't like the fact Lena is posing nude,he should say "Not really" and a bit later when he speaks with Lena about her Stalkfap (after following it and paying to see the exclusive stuff she posts) he needs to say that it makes him feel "insecure" - that's probably the same time he speaks with her about his dream with Gillian or a bit before that but after that when playing with Lena she can choose to ask him take photos for her Stalkfap and make fun of him by letting him jerk off on her and deny to fuck him! :LOL: In Perry villa when they play the game "never have i ever" she will once again make fun of him by saying "never have i ever have a dream about my ex been fucked infront of me and get aroused" and Ian will need to drink because he did tell her before he has that dream.
 
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Game isn't about teaching lessons though.

Lena can get high as all fucks fucking anything that moves, cheating on partners and making partners cheat, punching random hoes in nightclubs virtually remorse-free.
By your own admission playing the game allowed you to wrestle with a concept of determinism a little bit. See? You learned something ;)
 
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Of course the one time I come here to look for an answer the search is disabled for maintenance and rebuilding the index. I'm not sure why it took me so long, but I fired this up for the first time today, and been enjoying it. I'm trying to figure out my Save Management and having two protagonists potentially makes things a lot more complex.

By looking at the '_dating' variables, it seems that Ian has 6 LIs, Lena has 9, and an additional Ian/Lena path. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, do I need to have a save for each combination of who they are dating? If so, that's a staggering number of saves/playthroughs to work through. o_O If it doesn't affect the overall story or interactions between Ian and Lena, then I may just finagle singular playthroughs as for each LI.
 

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Of course the one time I come here to look for an answer the search is disabled for maintenance and rebuilding the index. I'm not sure why it took me so long, but I fired this up for the first time today, and been enjoying it. I'm trying to figure out my Save Management and having two protagonists potentially makes things a lot more complex.

By looking at the '_dating' variables, it seems that Ian has 6 LIs, Lena has 9, and an additional Ian/Lena path. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, do I need to have a save for each combination of who they are dating? If so, that's a staggering number of saves/playthroughs to work through. o_O If it doesn't affect the overall story or interactions between Ian and Lena, then I may just finagle singular playthroughs as for each LI.
Not a harem game, so you have to make multiple playthroughs for different LIs. For now, (Pure) Holly-Ian-Lena can enter a throuple relationship. Cindy cancels out Holly, Lena and Alison. Cherry cancels out Alison and Lena.
 
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By your own admission playing the game allowed you to wrestle with a concept of determinism a little bit. See? You learned something ;)
There's a difference between Eva actively trying to "teach" a lesson in a didactic way using her game as a medium and me engaging with a concept... Concept which is even outside the confines of the game's storyline since by determinism you clearly talk about whether players' feedback changes characters' outcome by influencing Eva to add different branching and outcomes to the storyline.
 

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Not a harem game, so you have to make multiple playthroughs for different LIs. For now, (Pure) Holly-Ian-Lena can enter a throuple relationship. Cindy cancels out Holly, Lena and Alison. Cherry cancels out Alison and Lena.
That's perfect for the non-harem, and what I was expecting.

As to my exact question I suspect it's some confusion on my end trying to word the question clearly. Is there meaningful changes to the story/interactions between who Ian and Lena are dating? For example, will there be a significant story differences if:
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark;
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly.
I get that Lena's pathing will be different, but is there a need to have the above 3 as separate playthroughs? Or is there no real meaningful state changes between the three different combinations above? I'm not sure I'm framing the question clearly, it's a bit of a mental struggle day for me. :LOL:
 

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That's perfect for the non-harem, and what I was expecting.

As to my exact question I suspect it's some confusion on my end trying to word the question clearly. Is there meaningful changes to the story/interactions between who Ian and Lena are dating? For example, will there be a significant story differences if:
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark;
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly.
I get that Lena's pathing will be different, but is there a need to have the above 3 as separate playthroughs? Or is there no real meaningful state changes between the three different combinations above? I'm not sure I'm framing the question clearly, it's a bit of a mental struggle day for me. :LOL:
  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark; (Nothing of significance from Lena's side, just casual hookup.)

  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and (Lena has a heart option for Jack, but right now, there is no content with Jack other than the nightclub scene.)

  • Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly. (Lena and Holly can enter a sapphic relationship.)
 

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Is the slutty Emma path closed for the casual relationship path? I've been trying to find a way to get the scene with a casual relationship with Lena but can't, it seems so illogical.
 
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