phantomz

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No need cause, I already consider Stan the Man to get some Lena pussy .:p
yea , it could be ;)
im really interested to see whats going to happen between them .
these two pervert characters can create some interesting sexual scenes :p
 

Cicica

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I want to start out by saying that I don't think anyone here has "absolute agency", ultimately any change to the game is EvaKiss' decision, you can have some influence over it but failing to disclose feedback only makes her decision less informed, because the fact remains that some people aren't happy with the options present in that scene. I think it is silly to hold yourself or anyone here as ultimately responsible for how EvaKiss handles her game.

Personally I agree with the idea that the conversation feels unbalanced and that a 4th option could help with that, if you are looking for specific suggestions then:
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Yes, ultimately it is her game and she does whatever the Hell she wants to with it and I don't have a problem with that, but I would find it a little bit pathetic to express your opinion through the voice of some video game characters, like no one cares, you can replace that conversation with something else and be done with it. I couldn't care less about her opinions on these subjects, as they are subject of personal preference and no one should be judged upon them. So why make some people feel inferior for their preference? Just don't put the conversation in there and that's it. I don't think the story will suffer because of it.
 

BloodyMares

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In your suggestions, you are missing a point that it all is about Perry discovering Emma's open-minded nature (and potential liking to wearing a strap-on). Kinda hard to move the serious topic about defending trans-people to this light-hearted porn talk about kinks that might suggest future content.
 

niek07

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In your suggestions, you are missing a point that it all is about Perry discovering Emma's open-minded nature (and potential liking to wearing a strap-on). Kinda hard to move the serious topic about defending trans-people to this light-hearted porn talk about kinks that might suggest future content.
I agree. It was just a good way to show that Perry and Emma are both open-minded about sex.
Of course, you could replace it with another fetish but I thought the conversation was fine.
 

Cicica

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In your suggestions, you are missing a point that it all is about Perry discovering Emma's open-minded nature (and potential liking to wearing a strap-on). Kinda hard to move the serious topic about defending trans-people to this light-hearted porn talk about kinks that might suggest future content.
I mean strap-on is one thing and trans is kind of another IMO. I had the same discussion with my friends when one of them said they liked shemales and then rephrased by saying "strap on women". It's not the same thing. Plus, the conversation doesn't need to bring trans into context to figure out that she's open minded and even open minded has multiple meanings.
 

BlandChili

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In your suggestions, you are missing a point that it all is about Perry discovering Emma's open-minded nature (and potential liking to wearing a strap-on). Kinda hard to move the serious topic about defending trans-people to this light-hearted porn talk about kinks that might suggest future content.
That's not really the point of the conversation that Ian gets to weight in on though, right? Emma doesn't even get involved in the convo until after Ian gets to speak his mind. We as players can't be expected to predict the designed point of the dialogue from what Ian overhears.

When Ian and the player gets to partake, the question presented is summed up as such: Wade: "Isn't Perry weird for liking dickgirls?" That's what people want different options to respond to.
 

manscout

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In your suggestions, you are missing a point that it all is about Perry discovering Emma's open-minded nature (and potential liking to wearing a strap-on). Kinda hard to move the serious topic about defending trans-people to this light-hearted porn talk about kinks that might suggest future content.
You're saying Perry's crippling porn addiction is light-hearted? /s

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Tallyhoe

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Also, I relayed all the criticism to Eva. If she decides to cut the dialogue out, well, you know your heroes.
Why are we relaying critisism from a pirate site to Eva? Shouldn't it be from those patrons who pay to voice their concerns or something? I mean I love reading discussions here no matter how heated they are. But is it that significant to make the dev make a change because people here don't like it?
 

BloodyMares

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I want to start out by saying that I don't think anyone here has "absolute agency", ultimately any change to the game is EvaKiss' decision, you can have some influence over it but failing to disclose feedback only makes her decision less informed, because the fact remains that some people aren't happy with the options present in that scene. I think it is silly to hold yourself or anyone here as ultimately responsible for how EvaKiss handles her game.
I was just being ironic. I just find it strange that this criticism came up only on this forum, and not from her paying patrons who have a better chance to be heard, or even on her Discord where she reads the posts. It feels entitled to complain about the content on the pirated forum while not giving her a single penny. The question is, should she listen to people who are not supporting her? Will she gain anything out of it?


That's not really the point of the conversation that Ian gets to weight in on though, right? Emma doesn't even get involved in the convo until after Ian gets to speak his mind. We as players can't be expected to predict the designed point of the dialogue from what Ian overhears.

When Ian and the player gets to partake, the question presented is summed up as such: Wade: "Isn't Perry weird for liking dickgirls?" That's what people want different options to respond to.
I'm talking about meta-reasoning. The narrative point of that dialogue is to showcase more of Perry's, Wade's (since he's a birthday boy) and Emma's character, and Perry's reaction to it. It serves as a step 1 towards their relationship if Ian didn't bring him to the club. The starting dialogue is just an excuse that should lead to Emma opening up her kinky nature, making impression on Perry in the process.
 

Cicica

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Why are we relaying critisism from a pirate site to Eva? Shouldn't it be from those patrons who pay to voice their concerns or something? I mean I love reading discussions here no matter how heated they are. But is it that significant to make the dev make a change because people here don't like it?
I think it's not reasonable to expect everyone here to not be a patron. Beside the pirate thing, it's a forum more than anything else, so people can express their opinions here better than on her Patreon page.
 

BlandChili

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I was just being ironic. I just find it strange that this criticism came up only on this forum, and not from her paying patrons who have a better chance to be heard, or even on her Discord where she reads the posts. It feels entitled to complain about the content on the pirated forum while not giving her a single penny. The question is, should she listen to people who are not supporting her? Will she gain anything out of it?
Not that Eva necessarily has to listen to a priate forum discussion, but why should she limit herself only patreons either? If anything, isolating your creative outreach to a limited section of her userbase won't grow her creative abilities. I'd argue that there are fewer filters for people to reveal their honesty through here.

I'm talking about meta-reasoning. The narrative point of that dialogue is to showcase more of Perry's, Wade's (since he's a birthday boy) and Emma's character, and Perry's reaction to it. It serves as a step 1 towards their relationship if Ian didn't bring him to the club. The starting dialogue is just an excuse that should lead to Emma opening up her kinky nature, making impression on Perry in the process.
All that's fine, the players concerns are just divorced from Perry and Emma's.
 

Cicica

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I was just being ironic. I just find it strange that this criticism came up only on this forum, and not from her paying patrons who have a better chance to be heard, or even on her Discord where she reads the posts. It feels entitled to complain about the content on the pirated forum while not giving her a single penny. The question is, should she listen to people who are not supporting her? Will she gain anything out of it?
I don't think that opinion should be reserved for premium, if you want to take it like that. That's the mentality of a cheap person. Also, I don't think that everyone here did not pay her anything at least once, let alone that they might still do so. Again, it is a forum, where opinions are expressed, that's the nature of these things. She can read posts here as well, if she wants, I don't think F95 is forbidden in Spain, but then again, I might be wrong.
 

BloodyMares

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Why are we relaying critisism from a pirate site to Eva? Shouldn't it be from those patrons who pay to voice their concerns or something? I mean I love reading discussions here no matter how heated they are. But is it that significant to make the dev make a change because people here don't like it?
They are complaining about Eva not having a whole picture, so what the hell. If Eva wants to dismiss it, she has all the right for it, and I agree that ideally if you want something changed, you should be a supporter.
 

Cicica

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Not that Eva necessarily has to listen to a priate forum discussion, but why should she limit herself only patreons either? If anything, isolating your creative outreach to a limited section of her userbase won't grow her creative abilities. I'd argue that there are fewer filters for people to reveal their honesty through here.
Exactly. People who pay to her could ask for gay content all day and night long. It doesn't mean that she has to deliver, if she doesn't feel like it, unless she's a total sellout, of course, in which case, felicidades.
 

Cicica

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They are complaining about Eva not having a whole picture, so what the hell. If Eva wants to dismiss it, she has all the right for it, and I agree that ideally if you want something changed, you should be a supporter.
If you are a "supporter", it doesn't mean that she'll automatically change things because you payed for her bills. Not paying is also a way of expressing the feel of change, even though from the creator stand point it is not ideal. But it happens in businesses every time.
 
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