Geralt From Rivia

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Well, we agree about Robert too, the guy got zero personality and if was 60 pounds heavier he would probably be a Stan too.
Yeah, Robert is typical wannabe-alpha, although in reality he is a loser and shows this by his frustrated behavior when he is refused.
That's how Lena has interacted with Stan in my game -- she was polite with him early on and invited him to exhibition. But when he started to display incel vibes right afterwards she promptly stopped him (making earlier mistake with Ed has helped in this regard, in the sense it was a lesson well learnt) and then avoided to pick sides in his fights with Louise. So they're acquaintances, he's grateful Lena is paying her rent, but things don't develop into any awkward territory.

Of course, if someone plays the game specifically for maximum drama then incel Stan is a just perfect toy to play with. :v
At least Ed isn't as creepy as Stan. Just an aging man who missed his youth and seeing a hot girl in him wakes up male instincts. Ed is harmless, I'm not sure about Stan.
 
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That still makes the impressions a few months old, and that's generously presuming people didn't just hold down Ctrl to skip through bits they've already played in the previous iteration.
I understand your point, but from my personal experience, since the game had new dialogue and new scenes I played all of it without skipping anything to actually understand what were the changes to the story.

I have severe doubts whether this is something that ever can be "well developed" and it hinges more on the player's initial impression of the character than anything -- case in point, Being a DIK has devoted entire episode to establish importance of "returning ex". It didn't stop some people from loudly and repeatedly declaring how they just don't care about the character because they've already settled on some other option.

(then, when the said ex actually showed up and could be interacted with it turned out that, surprise surprise, some of these people found their lack of interest highly premature)
I recently played the new update of BaDIK and I understand once again your point, but that's not the comparison I was trying to make. If you read through my "rant", you can actually see I'm not against Gillian being introduced into the cast, I just don't feel like at this point it added that much, specially with the way it was handled. And once again if you read through it I do explain how I feel it could've been handled by giving 2 different examples. Obviously you and others are free to disagree with my opinion and it's all fun and games. But do understand that I'm not just coming around with the usual negative attitude that can be found throughout all forums in the internet and saying "this is all bullcrap, boohoo, burn the witch", but actually trying to provide constructive criticism on something I wasn't particularly pleased with, while also supplying some insight on how I believe it could've been done differently and make things better, from my particular point of view. But if you and others don't agree with this and feel like the way it was handled it's actually good enough and fits the story timing, then so be it, we just have to agree to disagree on this matter.
 

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Well, we agree about Robert too, the guy got zero personality and if was 60 pounds heavier he would probably be a Stan too.
Cannot agree. Imo Rober is lighter version of Axel. Manipulative person, who wants to have lena only for himself and under control.
 

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Ok so at there are two dialogue options with Stan that I can't seem to unlock. One is a friendly option and the other is the unfriendly option. Someone mentioned earlier that the friendly option is impossible at the moment because of missing variables. Is this the case with the unfriendly option aswell?
 

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At least Ed isn't as creepy as Stan. Just an aging man who missed his youth and seeing a hot girl in him wakes up male instincts. Ed is harmless, I'm not sure about Stan.
I'll admit, Ed actually scared me more than Stan. The way he kept barging in on Lena changing after she told him about her modeling, and then going on her Fakegram account to post cum emotes and then he'd get all incel-like pissed after getting called out on it (and then he eventually still disregards Lena's wishes and acts as if they never happened). I've seen enough excuses of "oh it's just male instincts" to give that motherfucker a permanent sideeye because i don't really trust him he even wants to control these "male instincts", much less is capable of actually controlling them.
 

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I want to ask, did everyone who was nice to Stan get his weird declaration of love? If so, then I'm not at all surprised. This guy has been a creepy incel and will remain so. Eva doesn't like this character, so I doubt he will end up with something good.
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I agree, The cringe was just too much
 

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Ok so at there are two dialogue options with Stan that I can't seem to unlock. One is a friendly option and the other is the unfriendly option. Someone mentioned earlier that the friendly option is impossible at the moment because of missing variables. Is this the case with the unfriendly option aswell?
If you mean the You don't need that option, then it's currently bugged -- it's locked behind condition v10_stan_pay > 2 which is not possible, because that variable can have value of 2 at most (meaning, Lena is paying Stan the increased rent)
 

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I'll admit, Ed actually scared me more than Stan. The way he kept barging in on Lena changing after she told him about her modeling, and then going on her Fakegram account to post cum emotes and then he'd get all incel-like pissed after getting called out on it (and then he eventually still disregards Lena's wishes and acts as if they never happened). I've seen enough excuses of "oh it's just male instincts" to give that motherfucker a permanent sideeye because i don't really trust him he even wants to control these "male instincts", much less is capable of actually controlling them.
With all this, he is harmless enough, because he does nothing more than look. Lena is a nude model, but I understand that it can be a little uncomfortable because they are working colleagues. But I just ignore him, let him watch as much as he wants and do not make a drama out of this situation - in the end, Ed turned out to be a harmless stalker who does nothing. Let it remain on his conscience.

"Desires are natural, but some know how to behave, others don't."
 

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But I just ignore him, let him watch as much as he wants and do not make a drama out of this situation - in the end, Ed turned out to be a harmless stalker who does nothing. Let it remain on his conscience.
Well i don't give two fucks about what Ed wants, if his "want" is to violate Lena's privacy and then act all pissy "why are you making it a big deal, you're a nude model". The old fuck should respect normal boundaries, and i don't want to test if he maybe turns out harmless or decides not telling him off is in fact encouraging him to take things further. Especially given this being a porn game and how they work. :v
 
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I'm getting bullied at my work atm, grown up people, I wish they knew this. It's fine to hate me, but know how to behave! Respect colleagues.
Office politics sound like some of the pettiest BS. I got lucky with my first and current workplace where the average employee is like in their 40's and 50's (I'm 29). I just keep my head down, work, and leave.
 

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Ed isn't getting any content, much less a route.

And Stan would need to learn not to blow his load immediately in order to make anyone pregnant.
That's what Eva said about Gillian too but here she is, So never say never.
 

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I'm getting bullied at my work atm, grown up people, I wish they knew this. It's fine to hate me, but know how to behave! Respect colleagues.
What are you talking about?:WaitWhat:
Well i don't give two fucks about what Ed wants, if his "want" is to violate Lena's privacy and then act all pissy "why are you making it a big deal, you're a nude model". The old fuck should respect normal boundaries, and i don't want to test if he maybe turns out harmless or decides not telling him off is in fact encouraging him to take things further. Especially given this being a porn game and how they work. :v
I didn't run the whole game with this option. Only 4 routes I have, not too much. Will he be angry all the time at Lena if she stops him?
 
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I didn't run the whole game with this option. Only 4 routes I have, not too much. Will he be angry all the time at Lena if she stops him?
Well, kind of -- his relationship with Lena is effectively, permanently stuck at "neutral" value of 3, because there's no events past this point that'd increase it, even if Lena saves the cafe with the events and both Molly and Ed praise her constantly for it. I think it's more of an oversight that intended outcome, though.
 
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