monk_56

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And it's not like Ian is a sore loser in the beginning either. I mean, he can easily win Alison's attention and surpass Jeremy in this run for her right in the firsts chapters. A average guy overcome the usual "all-mighty bbc" is hardly a lose for me.
Until she tells Ian she is lusting after that BBC in chapter 9 or w/e :rolleyes:. A hollow win. Ian lyfe.
Not satisfied with the 'lil lad and acting up. Allison things.

Investing all your energy just to not get cucked by some black guy who gets better content than the male lead....RIP.
Allison can sod off, the patrician's choice is Cherry/Emma.
 
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mommysboiii

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Anytime someone forms a reasonable criticism you roll out a hyperbolic AF straw man argument.

Your love of cuckoldry has laser-vision; but your argumentative skills are blind and trying to see through 50 feet of concrete in a pitch black room.

Will definitely suit the game's overall vibe though if Ian's routes continue to get hard shut down if he gets in a relationship. He's designed to be super-fucking average. All the lustier / hotter routes are reserved for the larger more attractive men.

Maybe once he is a successful author he can finally get some more dynamic route content. How's that for gritty realism. Gotta be a successful author raking in huge amounts of cash before you can get some goddamed mff scenes and not have all your routes closing on every turn :KEK:
maybe this titels are more of your liking

Ian takes the red pill?
Ian in hustler university?
Ian in jail?
Ian fighting the matrix?
 

ffive

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I will concede that. Lena compared to Ashley the protagonist from Eva Kiss' first game is a much worse written character. i think the issue stems from her being the ex of Axel, the ultimate gigachad.
I don't think she's written worse; she's certainly written different (which matches what Eva Kiss said was going for, something different from previous game) and people who are looking for the typical corruption arc may not like it, but personally i find this a refreshing change from the usual tropes/story arc of yet another Holly getting her corruption up.

The idea Lena is already a sexually developed character from the moment Ian meets her also puts an interesting spin on the talk she has with Ian in the beginning, about Axel being overly jealous etc. Because it means a possibility Axel had some actual, valid reasons for his jealousy :v
 

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I mean it makes sense for a semi-realistic game the average guy, who Ian is, has a harder time getting into threesomes with literal models. Comparing Ian to Axel is like comparing apples to the whole goddamn fruit section. Lena on the other hand starts off already very desirable. Hot as fuck, artistic, and a model. What guy wouldnt want a piece of that. Lena obviously has a head start. That isnt to say Ian hasnt or wont get into crazy sexual situations. Already at the end of the last chapter he can begin organising a FFM threesome with Lena, the same chapter he can outperform Jeremy in a MMF threesome.

From a writing perspective it makes sense why Lena content is favoured to be more sexual and corruption based. As an example take the scenario man corrupts woman and put that into a porn game narrative. If the perspective is on the man he doesnt experience character growth. He starts Chad and ends up Chad with a corrupted woman companion. The way to give him growth would be to start the story a loser and over time he becomes the Chad. I think thats whats happening in ORS, for example, Ian can slowly become more of a dom to Lena, bust nuts into Alison and make her bark, get rougher with Holly, make Cindy keep cheating, etc. But his growth into Chad is too slow for a lot of people so I see where a lot of people are coming from. If the perspective is shifted to be on the woman, the character arc is obvious, she starts off uncorrupted and becomes corrupted over time. This is kinda complciated tthough because in ORS the perspective is on both characters and theres multiple characters with multiple routes.

I think one way to look at it is Lena content more favours corruption and Ians content more favours romance, but both characters have love and courruption in their content one way or another.
so overall,

Lena is the writers Mary Sue perfect self insert.
Ian is an average joe bound to the realms of mediocrity.
 

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Can you play Lena as a cuckquean? No. Can you play Lena as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? pretty much.

Can you play Ian as a cuck? Yes. Can you play Ian as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? no you can't.
 

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Can you play Lena as a cuckquean? No. Can you play Lena as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? pretty much.

Can you play Ian as a cuck? Yes. Can you play Ian as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? no you can't.
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Thx for the port, love your work :love:. I experienced at least 20 hard crashes throughout the playthrough.
I later played around with the settings a bit, but still had the same issues. It´s not a dealbreaker, just a bit annoying and just wanted to let you know.
Without any logs, I can't tell what those are. I don't play every game that I port.
 

ffive

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You are discouraged and inconvenienced from playing him any other way tho.
Maybe play the game first for yourself, instead of basing your opinions on what people say in this thread. Then you'll have a better idea of things you belive are discouraged or inconvenienced from. If any.

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Can you play Lena as a cuckquean? No. Can you play Lena as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? pretty much.

Can you play Ian as a cuck? Yes. Can you play Ian as a person who fucks everyone in the city and get away with it scottfree without locking any paths? no you can't.
Lena also has limitations applied for her routes -- e.g. she can't mix full Ian and Jeremy actions, or Ian and Holly. She automatically breaks her hookup with Mike if she gets in romantic relationship with Ian. So, no. Lena also can't "fuck everyone in the city (...) without locking any paths".
 
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ffive

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The fact the game has a cuck path but not a cuckquean path is discouraging enough.
Again, you're complaining about half-completed game. It might be worth to remember that the cuck path for Ian only becomes a thing in Chapter 10 i.e. literally the latest update before the new chapter prologue. As such all whining how absolutely for sure there isn't going to be equivalent for Lena is really premature.
 

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Again, you're complaining about half-completed game. It might be worth to remember that the cuck path for Ian only becomes a thing in Chapter 10 i.e. literally the latest update before the new chapter prologue. As such all whining how absolutely for sure there isn't going to be equivalent for Lena is really premature.
Don't think starting a game for a path that has an unconfirmed chance of existing isn't exactly what most people do.
 

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Don't think starting a game for a path that has an unconfirmed chance of existing isn't exactly what most people do.
Never seen someone complain over no cuckquean path. It's obviously a rarer kink than normal cucking. Complaining about it's absence seems backwards, would be like someone going into a maledom power fantasy game and complaining about a lack femdom content
 
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