Because Ian hasn't found out yet. But we aren't actually expecting this to last simply so we can keep insisting how characters aren't treated equally... do we?
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JohnnyKiss
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My biggest gripe with Ian. He's mad at Gillian, but fucks Cindy knowing she has a boyfriend (his friend, btw).
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Ian voices his discomfort and knows he betrays his friend. Lena doesn't display any of this awareness.
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She actually does. The main reason preventing Lena being in relationship with Ian is if she fucks Jeremy.
Gicoo
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But not with Mike and not towards the people that are directly hurt (his girlfriend, Ian doesn't even need to be in a relationship with Lena).
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Lena did not meet Mike's girlfriend so there is of course the lack of empathy towards someone you never met. Both Lena and Ian show different level of guilt depending on people affected by their actions and how you play them. If your characters do not show remorse then that is the fault of how you decided to play them.
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No, Lena shows never empathy or reflection on how she acts similar as Cherry if she is with Mike. And she is still always mad at Axel and Cherry whenever they show up, even though she can potentially act this crude.
Does Ian feels empathy towards Miranda's husband?
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Lena got cheated on and its still mad at Cherry, but then proceeds to not care she is the Cherry in other relationships
Gicoo
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No, but he should, if we consider how heart-broken he is about Gillians infidelity.
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Ian got cheated on and is still mad at Gillian, but then proceeds to not care he does the same to other guys.
And, again, this only happens IF you choose to do so. You can make Lena simply NOT do this and the whole "hypocrisy" thing is avoided. Maybe some players just don't care about it?
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Lena does show empathy, I am just not sure if it's specifically when it comes to Mike, but she definitely does.
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Where? Whenever she discusses Mikes girlfriend with him, she insults her indirectly. And whenever she talks with Ivy about this, she gloats.
I'll concede this one; i've found the lack of self-reflection about this situation similarly disappointing. There's some tiny bits of it but they're basically in the middle of the act and immediately swept under the rug of Lena being too horny to care and finding the arrangement an actual extra turn on. But she never gives it a thought otherwise, the way she's conflicted post her sex with Axel. It'd be nice if she did, double so because it'd give her some reasons to explore her feelings about Cherry.
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The game is actually pretty neutral in depicting its female characters. Let's take Ivy as an example. You have characters who are fully against her lifestyle like Louise, Good Jessica, and even Lena if you want to. A feminist game wouldn't even try to create characters than go against Ivy, and even if they do exist, they'll get punished in some way for not agreeing with her.
Justifying using StalkFap to make money as an empowerment is more on character per character basis. Ivy of course considers it as such, but Louise and (optional) Lena can shamed her for it. The game never tries to convince you that making money that way is all great and empowering, only certain characters that fit their personalities do.
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Ivy is one of the most consistent characters, her and Cindy are my favorite, in more ways than one.
Maybe my perception is skewed since I played Lesbian Lena first and Ivy was obviously a big focus, but to me It seemed to have the message that society is wrong and that type of behavior should be lauded a bit too in your face to ignore.I am not familiar with the author's other work, so I said maybe, but it could be the case of just trope writing of the usual female MC, corruption, blackmail, sexual harassment, like almost every other female MC game in here.
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Congrats on not having a valid rebuttal. Good job, good effort there bucko.
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My man really said "bucko". That explains your action a lot considering it reveals the people you listen to.
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Lena feels remorse when cheating in Chapter 11 prologue, it's just not regarding to Mike specifically. In fact, the game teases that her actions would soon have consequences. There is also her refusal to get into a relationship with Ian if she fucks Jeremy. I don't have to list every single instance to prove my point, this should be enough (but it clearly isn't as you have completely ignored it).
Lay off hating on fictional women. It's not healthy for you.