VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[JoeSte91]

He's good for practice but he ain't marriage material

 

[| Vee |]

Becasue Jeremy has nothing to offer for Ivy, but Axel gives her chance to get into wildcats. Also Axel didnt have problem to fuck Cherry while was with Lena, so he doesent have problem fuck more girls while chasing one girl.

I believe that wildcats deal was something like this:

Axel offers Ivy wildcats if Ivy Leaves Lena alone with Axel (so Axel work his charms on Lena) but Ivy already from starting of the ORS pushes Lena that if Lena wants something or not just be done with Axel in a clear way, so Ivy might here left Lena alone with Axel so that she can end this drama once and for all.

But the point to fuck others yup Axel don't have any problem fucking anything that Axel finds interesting but in IVY's case these consequences outweigh those results as Lena would never accept Axel and after that pretty much Lena's relationship (friendship) with Ivy would also end up in gutter and Axel is clearly not stupid but overly obsessive. He faced this once with Cherry and Cherry was no friend of Lena but Ivy is. Both Axel and Ivy are on extreme sides but not stupid.
You can understand this how Lena reacts when she found out that Ivy met Axel so you think she'll be happy when she find that Axel fucked Ivy or vice versa.

there is no clear evidence that something happened between Axel and Ivy IF it happened and is behind the curtains than Axel can spend his rest of life obsessing over Lena bcz she will not be accepting this high level bullshit from them both and they will be separated (friendship wise.)

 

[SerHawkes]

I believe that wildcats deal was something like this:

Axel offers Ivy wildcats if Ivy Leaves Lena alone with Axel (so Axel work his charms on Lena) but Ivy already from starting of the ORS pushes Lena that if Lena wants something or not just be done with Axel in a clear way, so Ivy might here left Lena alone with Axel so that she can end once and for all this drama.

But the point to fuck others yup Axel don't have any problem fucking anything that Axel finds interesting but in IVY's case these consequences outweigh those results as Lena would never accept Axel and after that pretty much Lena's relationship (friendship) with Ivy would also end up in gutter and Axel is clearly not stupid but overly obsessive. He faced this once with Cherry and Cherry was no friend of Lena but Ivy is. Both Axel and Ivy are on extreme sides but not stupid.
You can understand this how Lena reacts when she found out that Ivy met Axel so you think she'll be happy when she find that Axel fucked Ivy or vice versa.

there is no clear evidence that something happened between Axel and Ivy IF it happened and is behind the curtains than Axel can spend his rest of life obsessing over Lena bcz she will not be accepting this high level bullshit from them both and they will be separated (friendship wise.)

Couldn't agree more. We all know the guy is obsessed with Lena. Once more, as for Ivy not showing up on time, I think it could be two fold: Either her excuse of coming into town from a shoot of her own is legit and didn't expect to deal with the possible traffic coming back into town or it could be like you said, let Lena deal with Axel on her own to see where things possibly stand and gage the relationship.

There is no evidence to the two of them hooking up, either prior or currently. Those who are just spouting out the bullshit of 'AxEl aNd IvY bAnGeD' are missing the facts and evidence that points otherwise. In which, I will continue to laugh at them.

 

[Mr_Ainz]

What's the most versions you've gone without playing? I personally prefer to wait for a few releases before playing, I plan on waiting for ch 12 at least.

Yes I know, wtf am I doing, it's gonna be years before that... don't waste keypresses telling me how wrong I am please.

 

[SerHawkes]

What's the most versions you've gone without playing? I personally prefer to wait for a few releases before playing, I plan on waiting for ch 12 at least.

Yes I know, wtf am I doing, it's gonna be years before that... don't waste keypresses telling me how wrong I am please.

Years? Nah. More like 5-6 months.

 

[Jimmylol]

any game news ??

 

[Night Hacker]

any game news ??

I hear there's a Diablo 4 out now.

 

[ucetnafora]

Why does my Android reports that Android version of the game includes trojan virus?

 

[Shaggyhair]

any game news ??

nothing yet. Hopefully this weekend.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Am sorry, but this is pure drivel. Characters in a story are expected to act believably, that is in a manner where their personality, motivations and actions can be reasonably parsed (unless the character is supposed to be literally insane) They're behaving "people-like", because as people that's what we can understand. So, "they're not people, they're characters" is meaningless objection. Their "predetermined roles" have to make sense for the "people" they're presented as.


This quite literally has nothing to do with discussed topic, which was Ian's cuck path. The ian_cuck variable is only affected (and set) by Ian questioning Lena about dicks of her former partners. Whether he's watched Jeremy's video(s) has zero impact on availability of that choice, or the state of said variable.

They are characters; not people so it's not paranoi. I'm looking at the game through the perspective of these being characters with certain roles to play in the story. I do not know what "they need to act believably" has to do with anything. Now THAT'S a drivel.

Again, used the modded gallery for Allison Threesome and you will see you are given a choice of Ian asking Jeremy for more jerk off material which then influences how the scene goes; I don't care that "cuck variable isn't affected ☝"

 

[CoalPhelps]

At this point, are there any consequences if Ian chooses to work on a book in his spare time? With the gym it's clear, there's an immediate benefit.

 

[fatpussy123]

At this point, are there any consequences if Ian chooses to work on a book in his spare time? With the gym it's clear, there's an immediate benefit.

I think it's just free Witt points, but Witt points are so common in conversation options that it seems better to prioritise the gym over the book for balanced stats.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

At this point, are there any consequences if Ian chooses to work on a book in his spare time? With the gym it's clear, there's an immediate benefit.

It only adds his Wits points. His book quality still depends on choosing the right contents.

If you're also talking about working on the book after Holly criticizes/praises the book, then it's only giving Ian chances to fix his fuck ups. If the book is perfect, then that choice is redundant.

 

[CoalPhelps]

I think it's just free Witt points, but Witt points are so common in conversation options that it seems better to prioritise the gym over the book for balanced stats.

It only adds his Wits points. His book quality still depends on choosing the right contents.

If you're also talking about working on the book after Holly criticizes/praises the book, then it's only giving Ian chances to fix his fuck ups. If the book is perfect, then that choice is redundant.

Thanks for clearing that up, that's what I thought.

 

[Blurpee69]

I hear there's a Diablo 4 out now.

Can't play D4, when there are still so much Tears of the Kingdom to play.

 

[ffive]

Again, used the modded gallery for Allison Threesome and you will see you are given a choice of Ian asking Jeremy for more jerk off material which then influences how the scene goes; I don't care that "cuck variable isn't affected ☝"

Again, you were talking about Ian's cuck path and what has impact on it. The variable you don't care about is Ian's cuck path. This path is not impacted by Allison threesome, so it makes zero difference in the game script --as opposed to inside your head-- what affects that scene.

 

[| Vee |]

Again, you were talking about Ian's cuck path and what has impact on it. The variable you don't care about is Ian's cuck path. This path is not impacted by Allison threesome, so it makes zero difference in the game script --as opposed to inside your head-- what affects that scene.

If Ian harbors feelings towards Allison, then it falls in cuck behavior. The cuck variable only initiates the cuck path. You have to show tendencies of being a cuck, to be a cuck, BUT I believe there should be some set conditions prior to initiating the cuck route. I haven't played Allison's threesome or asked Jeremy for pics also, I have not initiated the cuck route, so I don't know how Ian behaves in those situations (those can tell better who have played those routes), but if Ian is emotionally invested/connected to Allison, then he have shown tendencies of being a cuck as we know Allison have some emotional connectivity/attraction to Ian it was Ian who didn't reciprocate.

You are not cuck if you don't even care for you partner Ian does more than care. There SHOULD be some set conditions prior to initiating the cuck route. YOU DON'T BECOME CUCK OUT OF THIN AIR. I truly believe Eva should've done things different to initiate cuck route than out of thin air.

 

[ffive]

I truly believe Eva should've done things different to initiate cuck route than out of thin air.

It's not initialized "out of thin air". It's initialized based on Ian's action to show insecurity when it comes to other sexual partners of the person they feel strongly about.

It simply doesn't have connection to imaginary "cuck path" involving Allison that you and JohnnyKiss seem to have envisioned -- Ian can become a cuck in the game regardless of his interactions with Allison (or lack thereof) At least you don't tell people they're ignorant for calling this delusion what it is.

 

[| Vee |]

It's not initialized "out of thin air". It's initialized based on Ian's action to show insecurity when it comes to other sexual partners of the person they feel strongly about.

It simply doesn't have connection to imaginary "cuck path" involving Allison that you and JohnnyKiss seem to have envisioned. At least you don't tell people they're ignorant for calling this delusion what it is.

The point is simple there are not some set conditions prior to initiating any route than that route is started out of thin air as there are no points which are calculated to make that route available or not as this has happened with cuck route. I believe these

I haven't played Allison's threesome or asked Jeremy for pics also, I have not initiated the cuck route, so I don't know how Ian behaves in those situations (those can tell better who have played those routes)

should be the basis of evaluation for initiating the cuck path.
Let's understand this If Ian doesn't gain dominant points in sex he is not going on the dominant route which is going to be developing in coming chapters but this is not the case with cuck route is starts without checking prior conditions. now why Eva does that i wonder.

I simply don't prefer criticizing someone to share their opinion, i prefer to listen others whether agreeing or not is different matter.

 

[BloodyMares]

You are not cuck if you don't even care for you partner Ian does more than care. There SHOULD be some set conditions prior to initiating the cuck route. YOU DON'T BECOME CUCK OUT OF THIN AIR. I truly believe Eva should've done things different to initiate cuck route than out of thin air.

Well, so far the only type of "cuck behavior" that initiates the cuck path is acting insecure when Lena mentions her experience with other dudes ("You mean I'm not THE best?") and then being okay with constant denial by Lena (handjobs / blowjobs only or no satisfaction at all) instead of calling her out on it with subsequent quitting.

So I don't think it's out of thin air as all of that is rather submissive behavior. Ian might not have shown tendencies, but choosing those option means that either he's been masking those tendencies (pretending they don't exist) or he never thought about it and simply discovered it for the first time.

And plus, he's still missing Gillian even though she broke his heart and cheated on him (he keeps her photos in Ch 1). It doesn't make him a cuck of course, but it's a sign that his jealousy doesn't kill his attraction / affection for the person and it's making him self-conscious than resentful.