VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[fatpussy123]

Wrong but alright. The idea is that Lena and Ian aren't dating at all so I don't see why she would keep it a secret from him. It's only a matter of time it happens considering Jeremy's storyline heavily relies on him sending images to Ian.

I actually agree with this. In the playthrough where Ian and Lena aren't dating it makes no sense for Jeremy to keep his relationship with Lena a secret. If Ian is romantically interested in Lena it makes sense, he doesn't want to jeopardize his friendship with Ian. But if Ian has nothing going on with Lena or he says "no strings attached" then why wouldn't Jeremy boast about it to Ian. Especially in a play through where he is already sending pics of Alison and Emma to Ian and also bragging about getting close to scoring with Ivy.

Lena might not want to share because of what it might mean for her friendship with Louise, but why would Jeremy care about Lena's wishes? He already pretty quickly shared pics of Alison even though she explicitly told him not to and Jeremy is closer to Alison than he is to Lena.

Obviously the meta explanation is that Eva can only add so many routes and she might even add it later. But the two main reason in game why I don't think Jeremy has shared pics with Lena is:
1. He hasn't taken any with her yet and she might not let him considering how she wants to keep her relationship with him secret. Again she might later and we might even be able to make that decision, but as of now that's not the case.
2 He sees Lena as way hotter, so he is doing more as to not jeopardize his relationship with her, whereas Alison is more agreeable and willing to put up with more of his antics. In other words he respects Lena's wishes to keep it a secret, but not Alison's wishes to not show their pics together because he knows with the latter he can get away with it.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Why would Seymour be interested in Cindy when he's been laser-focused on Lena? Cindy joined Wildcats, but Seymour doesn't represent them in any way, perhaps only has sway over the management due to connections. Besides, she'd be too basic for him and would be swayed easily with a promise of money and connections. He just wouldn't enjoy her company given that she wouldn't get any of his philosophical rambling.

You make good points actually. My original mode of thinking was that if Lena has been friendly with Cindy she might bring her in for one of the shoots or something. I'm wondering now then if Seymour will only be for Lena

 

[John Doe Jr.]

I also hope that alison come in contact with Seymour somehow???? or that alison has a opportunity to modeling like cindy but not sure how that would go down I mean at the start when alison meets axel she get very red but maybe that conflict/route is also canceld and I have no idea how they would come in contact.

Speaking to my heart rn. Or even perhaps Alison on stalkfap with Ian filiming

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Eva isn´t really known to throw massive curveballs and plot twists afaik, so at this point everything suggests it´s Mike.

Then again, we do know Mike has a GF but do we know if Gillian currently has a BF? I´m honestly not sure right now. If so, do we know if it is even the same guy she cheated with?

Maybe Mike´s girlfriend is actually Nat? And Gillian´s BF is Spike.

Imagine that clusterfuck if Lena is fucking Mike. Poetic justice in a way lmao

 

[| Vee |]

Wrong but alright. The idea is that Lena and Ian aren't dating at all so I don't see why she would keep it a secret from him. It's only a matter of time it happens considering Jeremy's storyline heavily relies on him sending images to Ian.

If Ian told Jeremy the no strings attached line and Ian told Lena that he isn't ready to date, there should be no problems in Jeremy sending pics. Jeremy's loyalty to promises is the only thing holding this up.

I actually agree with this. In the playthrough where Ian and Lena aren't dating it makes no sense for Jeremy to keep his relationship with Lena a secret. If Ian is romantically interested in Lena it makes sense, he doesn't want to jeopardize his friendship with Ian. But if Ian has nothing going on with Lena or he says "no strings attached" then why wouldn't Jeremy boast about it to Ian. Especially in a play through where he is already sending pics of Alison and Emma to Ian and also bragging about getting close to scoring with Ivy.

Lena might not want to share because of what it might mean for her friendship with Louise, but why would Jeremy care about Lena's wishes? He already pretty quickly shared pics of Alison even though she explicitly told him not to and Jeremy is closer to Alison than he is to Lena.

Obviously the meta explanation is that Eva can only add so many routes and she might even add it later. But the two main reason in game why I don't think Jeremy has shared pics with Lena is:
1. He hasn't taken any with her yet and she might not let him considering how she wants to keep her relationship with him secret. Again she might later and we might even be able to make that decision, but as of now that's not the case.
2 He sees Lena as way hotter, so he is doing more as to not jeopardize his relationship with her, whereas Alison is more agreeable and willing to put up with more of his antics. In other words he respects Lena's wishes to keep it a secret, but not Alison's wishes to not show their pics together because he knows with the latter he can get away with it.

It all makes sense that scene of ian_lena_love=True only available with Jeremy (in club). Bcz of that scene Ian and Lena's Relationship moves forward or not it all depends on that scene. Yup I think this is how the story will progress if they are not together (Ian and Lena).

 

[mommysboiii]

I'm wondering now then if Seymour will only be for Lena

My personal opinion is I dont think so.

I mean Seymour is introduced as this big bad twisted guy that we will see more of in the future (we havent even seen what he is capable of and all that talk)I dont think that he is a small side cheracter or that his content will be limitied with lena.

I could see him interect with emma,alsion and cindy in the future.

I mean you can play lena in so many different ways and Seymour is always interested in lena as a play toy dosent matter if played shy/intelectual , slutty ,charming....... So I dont see why all the sudden alsion or cindy are not intelectual enough for him???I could even see that he wants to get revenge on emma for that coffee thing or him see cindy in a wildcats add and is impressed and wants cindy for himself thoorws money in her direction like lena(also drama potential for competition between lena and cindy which he would probably use at his advantage with his twisted mind ) and I could see that Seymour interacts with alison if she gets into modeling (which I am not sure of no idea how that will work to be honest but she likes taking pics for ian) or that he is intreduced to her because of ians book on a boring book party where ian invited alison and he wants her for himself and trys to seduce her he seems like the guy that likes this power plays remember alison also seems like she is done with her job and wants a new job or more responsibility which Seymour could give her.

 

[BloodyMares]

Wrong but alright. The idea is that Lena and Ian aren't dating at all so I don't see why she would keep it a secret from him. It's only a matter of time it happens considering Jeremy's storyline heavily relies on him sending images to Ian.

Lena doesn't want the world to know that she's involved in cheating (as far as Louise is concerned), that's why. Imagine if Jeremy bragged to Ian about fucking Lena. Next time, Ian could go to Louise and say "Hey, Louise, are you cool with your boyfriend sleeping with Lena? Not my business probably but knowing Jeremy..." And here, Lena might keep Jeremy full time but Louise gets pissed at her and she wants to avoid that. Lena is sensitive to moral judgment because she doesn't have Ivy's "I don't care about what anybody says" attitude. Imagine if Holly who dates Ian found out that Lena is a homewrecker. There goes their friendship.

 

[| Vee |]

My personal opinion is I dont think so.

I mean Seymour is introduced as this big bad twisted guy that we will see more of in the future (we havent even seen what he is capable of and all that talk)I dont think that he is a small side cheracter or that his content will be limitied with lena.

I could see him interect with emma,alsion and cindy in the future.

I mean you can play lena in so many different ways and Seymour is always interested in lena as a play toy dosent matter if played shy/intelectual , slutty ,charming....... So I dont see why all the sudden alsion or cindy are not intelectual enough for him???I could even see that he wants to get revenge on emma for that coffee thing.

Oh he definitely has some plans for Emma after how she threw coffee on him. He ain't letting go that kinda humiliation. For Allison I'm not sure but Cindy yup.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Lena doesn't want the world to know that she's involved in cheating (as far as Louise is concerned), that's why. Imagine if Jeremy bragged to Ian about fucking Lena. Next time, Ian could go to Louise and say "Hey, Louise, are you cool with your boyfriend sleeping with Lena? Not my business probably but knowing Jeremy..." And here, Lena might keep Jeremy full time but Louise gets pissed at her and she wants to avoid that. Lena is sensitive to moral judgment because she doesn't have Ivy's "I don't care about what anybody says" attitude. Imagine if Holly who dates Ian found out that Lena is a homewrecker. There goes their friendship.

Honestly, that's such a boring way to look at the game. Any story, even that of a porn game, relies on it having some kind of conflict. Without it, you cannot have an interesting story. If the game followed your own logic of Jeremy and Lena just sleeping with one another in secret without any further development than that would be extremely boring. Now, EvaKiss isn't that good of a writer but even the worst writes know that you need conflict for the story to move forward. Jeremy and Lena being discovered would be just that. Just look how Chapter 10 ends - Ian is reunited with his Ex Girlfriend just as he was starting to move past her.

And that's not even considering the very obvious setup that is right there with Jeremy sending Ian videos; you got Louis, Allison and Emma, so considering Lena is another girl that he can fuck is naturally the next one in line. A reach would be something like expected Jeremy and Cindy to hook up because, I don't know, he saw her and Ian sleeping and is now blackmailing her for sex. That's a reach; Jeremy sending videos/images of him fucking Lena to Ian, something that he has done many times before, isn't.

 

[BloodyMares]

Lena might not want to share because of what it might mean for her friendship with Louise, but why would Jeremy care about Lena's wishes?

Because he wants to keep banging her and he knows what happens when you cross a woman and he's a chickenshit in heart? He doesn't even have the balls to tell Louise that he doesn't view her as his girlfriend.

My original mode of thinking was that if Lena has been friendly with Cindy she might bring her in for one of the shoots or something.

The contract with Seymour specifically has the NDA. She can't mention it to anybody, and thus can't bring other people to meet Seymour. More people = more risk. And Seymour is a paranoid weasel so he wouldn't instruct her to bring other people either. He'd prefer her isolated.

 

[JoeSte91]

Lena doesn't want the world to know that she's involved in cheating (as far as Louise is concerned), that's why. Imagine if Jeremy bragged to Ian about fucking Lena. Next time, Ian could go to Louise and say "Hey, Louise, are you cool with your boyfriend sleeping with Lena? Not my business probably but knowing Jeremy..." And here, Lena might keep Jeremy full time but Louise gets pissed at her and she wants to avoid that. Lena is sensitive to moral judgment because she doesn't have Ivy's "I don't care about what anybody says" attitude. Imagine if Holly who dates Ian found out that Lena is a homewrecker. There goes their friendship.

Isn't that completely possible though? There's an earlier moment where Lena can tell Louise about seeing Jeremy with Ivy and there's a player choice to tell Louise. Ivy is already Lena's friend, but she has the choice to choose to be honest with Louise over protecting Ivy in that moment.

A similar option for Ian to attempt to sabotage Jeremy with Lena by telling Louise would fall under the same choice, albeit trying to protecting his own fuckbuddy relationship with Lena vs sharing her. There would the the interesting consequence of having Lena pissed at him for outing her, possibly damaging his own relationship with Lena and Jeremy's by choosing that nuclear option.

I get that Lena isn't Ivy, but Lena is already cheating and if I remember correctly she sends a picture or two to Jeremy already. All it really requires is for Jeremy to share it, believing Ian will keep it secret. Lena's objections need not factor in, and it's already out of her control, which is an interesting avenue for the game. Maybe not one that Eva will explore, but not a stretch to be possible.

 

[mommysboiii]

Oh he definitely has some plans for Emma after how she threw coffee on him. He ain't letting go that kinda humiliation. For Allison I'm not sure but Cindy yup.

I mean i could see how alison is intedouced to him on a boring book party which ian where ian introduce his book

she kinda want a new job with more responsibilities which he could give her. She seems like she wants to climb that career ladder and he seems liek a easy way.

But I am also interested how axel can get in contact with alison because i still think that alsion is getting red while meeting him first time with ian and ivy was not a accident.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

The contract with Seymour specifically has the NDA.

And this is why we need you in the thread. You remember small details like this that I completely forgot about

 

[| Vee |]

Ian cucking Perry using Emma might not happen but Seymour gonna cuck Perry hard.

 

[BloodyMares]

Honestly, that's such a boring way to look at the game. Any story, even that of a porn game, relies on it having some kind of conflict. Without it, you cannot have an interesting story. If the game followed your own logic of Jeremy and Lena just sleeping with one another in secret without any further development than that would be extremely boring. Now, EvaKiss isn't that good of a writer but even the worst writes know that you need conflict for the story to move forward. Jeremy and Lena being discovered would be just that. Just look how Chapter 10 ends - Ian is reunited with his Ex Girlfriend just as he was starting to move past her.

And that's not even considering the very obvious setup that is right there with Jeremy sending Ian videos; you got Louis, Allison and Emma, so considering Lena is another girl that he can fuck is naturally the next one in line. A reach would be something like expected Jeremy and Cindy to hook up because, I don't know, he saw her and Ian sleeping and is now blackmailing her for sex. That's a reach; Jeremy sending videos/images of him fucking Lena to Ian, something that he has done many times before, isn't.

What you also need is buildup. If things just happen, then the drama only annoys most players. For example, nothing alluded to the Holly drama given the previous throuple fantasy that Lena could have about both of them and how sweet all of them are to each other. And so, after that, mostly forced, drama, there was no payoff. Both Ian and Lena got cockblocked from Holly for completely artificial reasons. Also, if you have drama every single chapter, it'll get stale eventually. In Chapter 10 there was potential drama of Ian and Lena breaking up, or Lena cheating on Ian for the first time as well as Cindy not really willing to go through with her breakup with Wade, and then Cherry was sighted with Axel (for those on Cherry path). In Chapter 11 prologue the drama of Lena suddenly dominating Ian can surface + Gillian showed up. Let Eva deal with one drama at a time instead of having to juggle it all at once. You can't focus both on drama and on sex scenes because drama usually gets in the way of content, and people want content more than they want drama.

 

[IDoAThing]

I might put myself in a coma at this point so I don't have to wait for the update any longer.

 

[mommysboiii]

What you also need is buildup. If things just happen, then the drama only annoys most players. For example, nothing alluded to the Holly drama given the previous throuple fantasy that Lena could have about both of them and how sweet all of them are to each other. And so, after that, mostly forced, drama, there was no payoff. Both Ian and Lena got cockblocked from Holly for completely artificial reasons. Also, if you have drama every single chapter, it'll get stale eventually. In Chapter 10 there was potential drama of Ian and Lena breaking up, or Lena cheating on Ian for the first time as well as Cindy not really willing to go through with her breakup with Wade, and then Cherry was sighted with Axel (for those on Cherry path). In Chapter 11 prologue the drama of Lena suddenly dominating Ian can surface + Gillian showed up. Let Eva deal with one drama at a time instead of having to juggle it all at once. You can't focus both on drama and on sex scenes because drama usually gets in the way of content, and people want content more than they want drama.

I agree with you on every point but we are in chapter 10 now and slowly things should get messy and tension/corruption/kinkyness should get higher I mean 10 chapters are left.

the build up for the relationships are done and eva has build a amazing foundation.

 

[fapderp11]

Are the sex scenes in this game animated?

 

[ArcherHades46]

Are the sex scenes in this game animated?

Already in the released versions there are animations, go through the game and see. And by the way, gentlemen, I appeal to the audience, more than a million people have already watched this game, do not raise a riot. Let's hope the game gets an update this week. Eva, hear us!

 

[fatpussy123]

Because he wants to keep banging her and he knows what happens when you cross a woman and he's a chickenshit in heart? He doesn't even have the balls to tell Louise that he doesn't view her as his girlfriend.

I literally said that in the message you're responding to dude