ffive

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I had two playthroughs with a different Gillian dream at the beginning of ch 11.

What triggers the difference sequences? :unsure: I'd assume it's whether Ian has committed to a serious relationship or not?
It depends on whether Ian deleted Gillian's pictures in Ch.3, since it signals Ian is ready to move on (or not)
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Running the update one route after another, I try to catch the essence and understand what is wrong here. Something was bothering me. Why only 7/10 my rating?
And then I realized what the problem was, once again making sure that deadlines are bad.
The update looks incomplete. Usually the end of an update is a cliffhanger, a plot twist, a resolution of some issue, or vice versa a new challenge. Warming up interest in the story and further game
Chapter 11 ends with nothing. 3 out of 4 runs are Ian or Mark/Louise/Lena threesomes. Not only does it scene look far-fetched, but Louise has finally ceased being a person and has become a sex doll for Lena's needs... so this looks like a very weak completion of the update. It ends with nothing.
Only the Seymour patb seems to be a complete moment - we see how Lena falls to the dark side and it seems that this is the darkest route (later I will describe this in detail).
I remembered Eva saying that a little later she would do the prologue of Part 12 where she would add a couple of scenes and complete the script. And again, talking about deadlines. Eve set herself the goal of releasing the update ASAP and separated some of the content for the prologue, as a result, the update seems to be cut off. Maybe such a position seems unpopular, but it would be better if she finished the last part in full, spending another month without separating pieces from it.
 

DeemLeem12

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Lena's dad is actually her step-dad. So anyone thinking that Seymour could be her father? They have the same eyes.
Oh shit. Just imagine if Lena is getting some love from both her Daddies.

EDIT: Actually maybe the "Our Red String" and the whole red string of fate concept is actually between Lena and Seymour and Ian is just a wanking spectator of this grand design.
 

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No, that scene is different to the one I'm talking about. The gallery is broken right now, but there is one scene at Ian's apartment from Ian's perspective, a threesome that you can see from the blurred icon, and a WIP Lena X Ian scene. The latter I have not encountered unless it's a variation on the scene at Ian's apartment.

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Guys how do you specialize in takedowns or in MMA punching? I have the will and have 2 saves where i focused on either one yet they are greyed out in the options. Is this a bug?
 

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Running the update one route after another, I try to catch the essence and understand what is wrong here. Something was bothering me. Why only 7/10 my rating?
And then I realized what the problem was, once again making sure that deadlines are bad.
The update looks incomplete. Usually the end of an update is a cliffhanger, a plot twist, a resolution of some issue, or vice versa a new challenge. Warming up interest in the story and further game
Chapter 11 ends with nothing. 3 out of 4 runs are Ian or Mark/Louise/Lena threesomes. Not only does it scene look far-fetched, but Louise has finally ceased being a person and has become a sex doll for Lena's needs... so this looks like a very weak completion of the update. It ends with nothing.
Only the Seymour patb seems to be a complete moment - we see how Lena falls to the dark side and it seems that this is the darkest route (later I will describe this in detail).
I remembered Eva saying that a little later she would do the prologue of Part 12 where she would add a couple of scenes and complete the script. And again, talking about deadlines. Eve set herself the goal of releasing the update ASAP and separated some of the content for the prologue, as a result, the update seems to be cut off. Maybe such a position seems unpopular, but it would be better if she finished the last part in full, spending another month without separating pieces from it.
The threesome indeed a felt a bit forced in the story. I was expecting Lena thinking about who she might invite for such a thing while she was alone, with 2 possible options: Ivy and Louise. Emma might also work, but they don't know each other too much. Hell, Jessica could have been an option; a total stranger that will have no impact in their lives moving forward. Instead we got only Louise and the entire discussion can be summed up to: hey, would you like to sleep with me and my bf? sure, let's do it.

Other things that are worth mentioning:
- I like Mike, but we got way too many scenes with him in a span of 2 updates: Chapter 10 - 3 scenes, Chapter 11 - 2 scenes.
- I was sure that Axel will show up again in this update, but no.
- This time, I feel like the story didn't progress too much.
  • Ian - Cindy: nothing happens, they sleep with each other, share compliments and that is it (same as chapter 10)
  • Ian - Allison: not much
  • Where is Billy ?
- Lena working at the club is something that will create opportunities for more Lena - Jeremy / Mike scenes and possibly Axel - Cindy, but that is just speculation.
- Seymour got a bit of screen time, but the final scenes, while the art was wonderful, the story felt identical with the scene we got in chapter 9. At least we know that he is a man of his word and he won't initiate anything. Lena will have to do that and she was rather close of doing it in this update.
 

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Running the update one route after another, I try to catch the essence and understand what is wrong here. Something was bothering me. Why only 7/10 my rating?
And then I realized what the problem was, once again making sure that deadlines are bad.
The update looks incomplete. Usually the end of an update is a cliffhanger, a plot twist, a resolution of some issue, or vice versa a new challenge. Warming up interest in the story and further game
Chapter 11 ends with nothing. 3 out of 4 runs are Ian or Mark/Louise/Lena threesomes. Not only does it scene look far-fetched, but Louise has finally ceased being a person and has become a sex doll for Lena's needs... so this looks like a very weak completion of the update. It ends with nothing.
Only the Seymour patb seems to be a complete moment - we see how Lena falls to the dark side and it seems that this is the darkest route (later I will describe this in detail).
I remembered Eva saying that a little later she would do the prologue of Part 12 where she would add a couple of scenes and complete the script. And again, talking about deadlines. Eve set herself the goal of releasing the update ASAP and separated some of the content for the prologue, as a result, the update seems to be cut off. Maybe such a position seems unpopular, but it would be better if she finished the last part in full, spending another month without separating pieces from it.
Mostly agree with this, even if i did still enjoy it more than what'd i'd call a 7/10. I feel c11 needs and will probably get a 'revised' version that feels more complete and plays better.

Eva Kiss mentioned and implied multiple times that she felt pressured to get the update out and that she needed to for her own mental (and financial?) health. But choosing that path can have consequences.
 

ffive

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Guys how do you specialize in takedowns or in MMA punching? I have the will and have 2 saves where i focused on either one yet they are greyed out in the options. Is this a bug?
I don't know about kickboxing, but the jiujitsu specialization is bugged -- it requires 5 points in the skill to enable, when it's only possible to have 4 points max. I'd guess it's an oversight from copy/pasting the kickboxing branch, where the "regular" max value is indeed 5.
 

ffive

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This time, I feel like the story didn't progress too much.
  • Ian - Cindy: nothing happens, they sleep with each other, share compliments and that is it (same as chapter 10)
I think this is intentional -- both Ian and the player can get a feeling Cindy is dragging her feet with breakup with Wade for some reason, and then comes a talk with Ivy who mentions that there's rumors Cindy is now dating Alex, which seeds further doubt in Ian (and player, too) Ian's thoughts on that are like they were copy/pasted from arguments in this very thread: "no, she wouldn't... but then she cheated on Wade with me, so she might do it again now"

  • Ian - Allison: not much
Ian and Alison can have potentially a big development, having sex for the first time. Also, fucking Alison explicitly sets a flag Ian is cheating on Lena, so all these people complaining how Lena can cheat on Ian but not the other way around, can sit down and shut up now :sneaky:
 

Xupuzulla

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The weird thing i noticed is that you can force Louise to have threesomes even if you have a bad relationship with her.
In my main save she just accepted having sex with Mike like nothing.
 
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KurtPitt

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The idea of re-having a threesome with Alison and Jeremy is giving me goosebumps. Even if when i press the first button the scene keeps restarting
 

Canto Forte

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Anyone can be the asshole -- oh, wait a minute ... everyone has one and
looks like you just went and embraced you ***hole persona just now.

i noticed is that you can force Louise
just curious
The path to lose girls is to have them be stolen by Jeremy or abused by Axxxxel or Seymoxxx.
You choose the degraded disgusting choices ... you hav ta live by them.
 
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GaRbS

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Man, I'm getting tired of Lena gaslighting Holly and herself about their feelings towards each other. The Holly Trinity is really nowhere in sight yet.
 
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