0tt0von

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in order to go about this storyline, do you avoid Ivy teaching Holly pole dancing?
no that and the 3some with Ivy as well as Ivy's help is part of the journey. Lena x Holly is not the superficial love at first sight of Hollywood lore, though the initial attraction is there if subdued, but of falling in love over time till one day both parties know it's true.
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aifgamer

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Wait, so can Ian fuck Alison without condom this update only if they are not in relationship together (or FWB)? Am I being punished for having a save dedicated to Alison? Is that a bug or expected?
It's not a punishment. It means she feels more secure/less desperate so she feels comfortable asking him to wear the condom.

Same reason that she doesn't dye her hair if you are on her love route.
 

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It's not a punishment. It means she feels more secure/less desperate so she feels comfortable asking him to wear the condom.

Same reason that she doesn't dye her hair if you are on her love route.
It does feel like a punishment to me when the sex scene is worse in every way compared with the other route...
 
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DeemLeem12

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Having a conversation with Cherry while in a relationship with Lena still causes an error. Lena can still join Ivy and Holly in the showers but I believe this is a bug too since Holly still acts bashful when she kisses Lena. There's also no mention of the shower event after the kiss. I wish Lena has the option to masturbate while watching Holly and Ivy. That way, it can still be a sexy scene while preserving the consistency of the plot.
 
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It's not a punishment. It means she feels more secure/less desperate so she feels comfortable asking him to wear the condom.

Same reason that she doesn't dye her hair if you are on her love route.
It's pretty funny how Alison is lol. If Ian tells her that he liked the old hair more, she'll be like, "Oh yea, I just wanted to try it out. I'll probably go back to the old hair in a week."

She's obsessed to the point of baby trapping Ian if he ain't falling for her. Crazy ass chick, but damn if she isn't an interesting character we don't see often.
 

MF_DOOM

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Honestly, the NTR label at this point is kind of trivial anyway. Basically every 2nd character was, or is ntr-ing or getting ntr´d one way or another, no? Even Ian parents are cucking each other ffs :ROFLMAO: It´s not like it would be an outlier if Holly was included in that (at some point). Technically speaking, isn´t Holly already "cheating" on Ian with Ivy? :unsure:
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It's not a punishment. It means she feels more secure/less desperate so she feels comfortable asking him to wear the condom.

Same reason that she doesn't dye her hair if you are on her love route.
While I agree with you on point 1, Alison is less desperate finally getting her school crush (Ian and Alison liked each other in school already, but never acted on it), I think there is more to the hairdye than just one variable.

I have two Alison love route saves, one pure love from the start, one pure love route but with the Jeremy threesome. In the one with the threesome (Ian being a stud here) Alison still colours her hair and I could gain her blond version with the love route from the start once.
I think while the "love meter" has some influence here, how "hot" you consider Lena and Sherry (and if Alison knows this) also plays a role.
 
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Just starting the Beta.

First change is that Ian can get a Will Point after the first encounter with Robert.

I assume this was changed so that Ian has always the option to forget about Gillian. Previously, he could only do that by kissing Lena and/or fucking Alison/Cherry.
 

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I want to see Ashley have a healthy and romantic relationship with Jessica with Ian supporting them when she moves in the city.
 
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