VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

bauman · Jul 12, 2023

jduk said:
Seymour is a pos. A capitalistic pig and arrogant old faggot full of himself. I hope Ian kicks his ass.

Geralt From Rivia · Jul 12, 2023

MF_DOOM said:
Why would you kill Seymour? He is the only decent dude in this game.

I just want Baluart to become OUR

jduk · Jul 12, 2023

DeemLeem12 said:
I know a lot of people would love the Ian, Lena, and Holly throuple route but I'm also excited of this route with a cuck Ian and slut Lena. I could see them having this poly relationship only for Lena to use Ian's cuck fetish and slowly seduce Holly into becoming a slut too. Lena could pimp Holly to Mike and even her ex, Axel, while making Ian watch them get railed and Lena assuring Holly that this is what they deserve and Holly slowly getting turned on with the idea.

Perfect. Cuck Ian route ftw

Deathstar1200 · Jul 12, 2023

Honestly, can you come up with a more boring character than Stan? He has neither looks nor personality; he is simply devoid of anything interesting. If he were the protagonist of the game, he would be cucked by every breathing female organism in the universe. He isn't the daring creep who got the guts to blackmail Lena, which I believe would make his character far more intriguing. However, he is portrayed as a nice creep, which in my opinion, is the worst decision Eva made. His interaction with Lena feels so forced, especially when she accepts his feelings. I mean... what? What could Lena possibly find appealing in him? I can only imagine she would entertain his affections out of sheer pity.

MF_DOOM · Jul 12, 2023

Deathstar1200 said:
Honestly, can you come up with a more boring character than Stan? He has neither looks nor personality; he is simply devoid of anything interesting. If he were the protagonist of the game, he would be cucked by every breathing female organism in the universe. He isn't the daring creep who got the guts to blackmail Lena, which I believe would make his character far more intriguing. However, he is portrayed as a nice creep, which in my opinion, is the worst decision Eva made. His interaction with Lena feels so forced, especially when she accepts his feelings. I mean... what? What could Lena possibly find appealing in him? I can only imagine she would entertain his affections out of sheer pity.

Maybe it's a preventive measure, she doesnt want Stan to make a leather jacket from her skin so she is being nice.

noturiah · Jul 12, 2023

Deathstar1200 said:
Honestly, can you come up with a more boring character than Stan? He has neither looks nor personality; he is simply devoid of anything interesting. If he were the protagonist of the game, he would be cucked by every breathing female organism in the universe. He isn't the daring creep who got the guts to blackmail Lena, which I believe would make his character far more intriguing. However, he is portrayed as a nice creep, which in my opinion, is the worst decision Eva made. His interaction with Lena feels so forced, especially when she accepts his feelings. I mean... what? What could Lena possibly find appealing in him? I can only imagine she would entertain his affections out of sheer pity.

I don't know that I'd call Stan boring, but that's probably because I've known a few guys IRL who are very like Stan in a broad sense: deeply insecure, emotionally very needy, and trapped inside their own head when it comes to women and what relationships are and how they work. Someone who is interested in the idea of woman X in their heads, not in dating the living, breathing woman. These guys are complex individuals. They have trouble dealing with the facts of who they are and they retreat into their own fantasies about themselves, so it's easy for them to also retreat into fantasies about other people - women, men, friends, family, coworkers, neighbors, etc. - instead of having actual relationships that take work and attention and have ups and downs.

But I agree with you that Stan wouldn't be a good protagonist. The guys I've known who he reminds me of are often miserable people to be around. They know they don't connect well with others, they want to change, but rarely do anything about it, preferring self-pity and grand fantasies to realizing they have the authority to make personal choices that would start to improve themselves and their life.

However, I disagree that Stan being a "nice creep" was a bad decision by Eva. He can be helpful to Lena if she needs a photographer and doesn't have other options, or does but doesn't want to use them. He can be helpful if she wants to indulge her exhibitionism fetish. You're right that Lena might well be nice to him out of pity; in one of my saves, that's exactly what she does, and I think that's defensible. I think it's great that Eva has the situation where, if you are nice to Stan right along, on your walk in the park with him you can encourage him to have self-confidence, or learn to socialize better, or to get in shape - all things Stan and the guys who he reminds me of need encouragement to do. It's after that option where Lena could kiss Stan, or tease him, or more realistically, tell him to be patient or that he needs to work on social opportunities. I agree with you that it seems far-fetched, in my opinion, for Lena to see Stan as a possible romantic partner, but I think it's totally fine of Eva to give players that option if they want to use it.

| Vee | · Jul 12, 2023

The only reason I go for Stan in my new playthrough is bcz Lena can get pics and money both

JohnnyKiss · Jul 12, 2023

jduk said:
Perfect. Cuck Ian route ftw

Don't do it! The Cuck route limits your choices a lot and the game feels empty. You should play "Ian Lena Dating" route for the most enjoyment of the game.

JAmesbond234 · Jul 12, 2023

| Vee | said:
SURPRISE EVERYONE!

In in-game built cheat mode if Ian is going Chad mode and in Ch9 he didn't choose to be couple with Lena. Later in Ch11 after having sex in living room with Lena when Ian went to His room His status is changed from ian_lena_love=False to True automatically SO IAN IS IN LOVE WITH LENA THEY ARE STILL NOT A COUPLE. Remember ian_lena_couple=false is still false, only ian_lena_love variable is set to TRUE. All these dialogues were new too.
In this playthrough Lena was in Love with Ian but Ian was not, they kept things casual and while having sex with Lena where you have to choose tell Ian I love you or choke IF I select former I get this one.
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How to open cheat mod?

| Vee | · Jul 12, 2023

JAmesbond234 said:
How to open cheat mod?

Start new game and select mode
Remember it just only increase your stats and money all the way to 10 points.

Doppelgang · Jul 12, 2023

DeemLeem12 said:
You get an error in Cherry's dialogue and then you lose points from her, basically she's disappointed with how complicated things got despite Ian's earlier asssurance. That's the current state of the run. This is actually my "main" run where Ian and Lena are sluts. Ian gets to fuck Cherry, Alison, Lena, Minerva, Emma, Cindy. I guess Lena is one less of a slut in this run because she didn't get to fuck Jeremy in order to be in a relationship with Ian.

Thanks! I suspected it would be something like this. To be fair, it would be very out of character of Cherry to say or do anything else. And Ian too, even as a Chad. Maybe that's the end of Ian and Cherry's fling if he's in a relationship with Lena, but I wouldn't mind if there's some more drama down the line, even if it might be difficult to set up a realistic scenario for it. And either way I suspect the conflict between Cherry and Lena will have a bigger impact on the story than it's had until now—and that it in one way or another either escalates or finds some sort of resolution. And if that happens, the meeting between Cherry and Ian just a day before his relationship with Lena starts, would be an obvious plot point to make use of.

I also have an unrealistic hope for some Cherry and Lena content at some point, as I think Cherry might be the character with the most in common with Lena, and under different circumstances they'd fit well as friends or as a couple. But that, for obvious reasons, would obviously be close to impossible to set up in a believable way.

fatpussy123 · Jul 12, 2023

Doppelgang said:
Thanks! I suspected it would be something like this. To be fair, it would be very out of character of Cherry to say or do anything else. And Ian too, even as a Chad. Maybe that's the end of Ian and Cherry's fling if he's in a relationship with Lena, but I wouldn't mind if there's some more drama down the line, even if it might be difficult to set up a realistic scenario for it. And either way I suspect the conflict between Cherry and Lena will have a bigger impact on the story than it's had until now—and that it in one way or another either escalates or finds some sort of resolution. And if that happens, the meeting between Cherry and Ian just a day before his relationship with Lena starts, would be an obvious plot point to make use of.

I also have an unrealistic hope for some Cherry and Lena content at some point, as I think Cherry might be the character with the most in common with Lena, and under different circumstances they'd fit well as friends or as a couple. But that, for obvious reasons, would obviously be close to impossible to set up in a believable way.

I don't think it's as impossible as you say it is for Lena and Cherry to make up. The story treats Lena's anger towards Cherry as being partially irrational/something to be overcome. Even when Holly finds out about it, she basically says the two should talk it out/make peace. Also with some of the actions Lena can be far worse than Cherry.

dontcarewhateverno · Jul 12, 2023

jduk said:
Seymour is a pos. A capitalistic pig and arrogant old faggot full of himself. I hope Ian kicks his ass.

"Seymour is a pos. A capitalistic pig" -wow. jduk? You're starting to sound like a woke social justice war- "and an arrogant old fa-" Oh. Nevermind.

Xupuzulla · Jul 12, 2023

Deathstar1200 said:
Honestly, can you come up with a more boring character than Stan? He has neither looks nor personality; he is simply devoid of anything interesting. If he were the protagonist of the game, he would be cucked by every breathing female organism in the universe. He isn't the daring creep who got the guts to blackmail Lena, which I believe would make his character far more intriguing. However, he is portrayed as a nice creep, which in my opinion, is the worst decision Eva made. His interaction with Lena feels so forced, especially when she accepts his feelings. I mean... what? What could Lena possibly find appealing in him? I can only imagine she would entertain his affections out of sheer pity.

You just described Holly.
Actually Holly is worse because she is a nice creep to both MCs.

ffive · Jul 12, 2023

Xupuzulla said:
You just described Holly.
Actually Holly is worse because she is a nice creep to both MCs.

Stan is a "nice creep". Holly is simply nice.

(although now i'm picturing Ivy and Lena training Stan, so thanks for that)

I-No · Jul 12, 2023

And both are really boring, so why bother?

fatpussy123 · Jul 12, 2023

ffive said:
Stan is a "nice creep". Holly is simply nice.

(although now i'm picturing Ivy and Lena training Stan, so thanks for that)

Pole dancing Stan

MF_DOOM · Jul 12, 2023

Xupuzulla said:
You just described Holly.
Actually Holly is worse because she is a nice creep to both MCs.

I dont remember Holly peeping on anyone or act like a cliché of a mass murdering incel.

fatpussy123 · Jul 12, 2023

I know people on here either absolutely hate Ivy or absolutely love her, personally I have no horse in that race, but something I have never seen brought up is this moment here on the path where Ian and Lena are crushing on each other and Holly kisses both of them. I only saw this dialogue now because I am making a harem Ian route where Lena brings in Louise and will hopefully later bring in Holly.