VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[dengl]

Im curious about something,for the people who play Lena as "pure" do you ignore the lesbian content?
For example the Louise-Lena mistress route,wich is one of the best in the game imo.

Nope I didn't. That's how I went for the Lena Ian threesome with her fucktoy and having Ian to know Lena is her mistress. But honestly a lot would still considered lesbian to be cheating but I simply stay true to what EK writes. Whenever Lena has lesbian sex be it Ivy or Louise, they didn't set lena_cheating = true. So.... I still considered that as Loyal Lena btw.

I have 2 main routes, which I consider pure both of them. For the first one, both Ian and Lena is only committed to each other and they don't sleep with anyone. Second one is other females are fair game for both of them. Louise-Lena also 3some with them. " attempted kiss with Holly, plus cockblock(is pussyblock a term?) Holly for every occasion. Also even though I am somewhat reluctant about her, Ivy content too. Ian goes for Allison, Cherry, Cindy, Emma if possible Holly in near future. I chose open relation option with it too.
I try other routes too if I find them interesting but don't have any save for them. Also never played Jeremy, Seymour, Robert or Axel routes for Lena.
Btw, I think game is in dire needs for decent guys. Every single one of the male NPCs are either complete douchebags or complete losers. Can't say the same for the female cast.

Honestly Jeremy plays the major part in the game to the extent his actions are almost dictated by the player. He doesn't force himself onto Lena path like Seymour or Axel, the real initiator for his path is Lena from player's choices by literally pushing her onto that bbc. Player can cockblock him with alison_jeremy_block variable when it's set to true during their talk, JeremyXEmma doesn't happen if Ian fucked Emma and don't bring it up and don't encourage him to go for it, JeremyXLena doesn't happen at all if player don't want it, JeremyXIvy required approvals from BOTH Ian and Lena (aka player choices) for Ivy to stop trashing him in the epilogue. We will see if he fucks her in ch12 or not with Ivy allowing him to get on her car at the end.
With Jeremy winning almost every poll as best male cast, we should only expect more bbc content not less. But then again, EK did a good job for letting everything that happens on the path to be decided by the player though. You can literally have nothing to do with him at all in the story too.

 

[Esti]

True but that's the thing, nobody seems to care about Ian's value in the heart. Axel is everything good on the outside but rotten to the core. As a matter of fact Ian appears to be the "most decent" guy compared to every other male chars in game.

The thing is "most decent guy" isn't sexy. "Bad boy" is. That is sad reality: people who would value decency from the get go are rare.

 

[MixQQ]

Im curious about something,for the people who play Lena as "pure" do you ignore the lesbian content?
For example the Louise-Lena mistress route,wich is one of the best in the game imo.

nah, lesbian content is ok, game don't even consider it as a cheating. I also think at some point Lena will deliver all her lovers to Ian, just like she did with Louise

 

[Esti]

When she was out with Ian she was fun, sweet and nice. When they went to art exhibit she was genuinely interested in, attentive to Ian. Never shown what you said about her anymore than others.

She took Ian to the exhibit because she wanted free guide, lol. And she can be decent sometimes, she isn't a monster., after all. She is just a "cheerleader type" girl with potential for something deeper or something even more shallow.
1) That was dev intention from the start. And GGGB is miles more unrealistic than ORS. As a matter of fact, I tried to replay GGGB yesterday. There is such chasm in quality (ORS is much better) that I just couldn't.
2) You got me wrong. I tell what I tell about her not because of her relationship with Wade. There she acts understandable if bitchy. No, I tell all this because of how she interacts with everyone else. Where she is demanding, needy, egoistical and so on.
3) Never said that she slept with Axel. I just think she will, because while everyone can find him sexy, not everyone will undress on their first photosession without consulting the boyfriend. She was completely enraptured, couldn't say a word of protest. She wanted to believe all the things he told and to do everything he wanted her to. And, sure, she is pulled towards Ian somewhat. Problem is, she is pulled towards Axel so much more.

 

[Futaglit]

I'll limit myself to a Top Five:

I totally share your feeling with the character of Holly that slowly get more and more kinky.
I just fear how far Eva might bring her.

And I'm happy to see that Natasha from GGGB hasn't been forgotten.

 

[Xupuzulla]

nah, lesbian content is ok, game don't even consider it as a cheating.

You are not wrong...
I think the only lesbian relationship EK thinks is serious is Lena-Holly(?)

 

[Socrambus]

She took Ian to the exhibit because she wanted free guide, lol. And she can be decent sometimes, she isn't a monster., after all.

No, she invited Ian to the museum because she wanted to spend time with him and she chose an activity that she wants to enjoy and fits into her vision of what an "artist type of guy" like Ian would enjoy too. You can see this quite clearly if you choose some dialog options:

 i "You should ask Wade instead of me."
 hide phone_cindy
 show phone_cindy_sad at lef3
 c "I've already told you, he will say no..."
 $ fian = "smile"
 i "Try him. You won't know unless you give him a chance."
 if v3_cindy_dance_signs:
     c "But I was hoping to go with you..."

 c "Hey Ian! There you are. Thanks for coming."
 "I greeted Cindy. It was impossible to deny how radiant she was looking in that outfit..."
 i "I wouldn't miss it. But I'm a bit surprised..."
 i "How come you called me all of a sudden?"
 $ fcindy = "n"
 c "You know stuff about art, and after our conversation the other night, I figured you'd be the right person to go to the gallery with."
 i "Oh, so you missed my company already?"
 i "I never knew you were so fond of me..."
 $ fcindy = "shy"
 c "Don't be an idiot. I just thought you'd tell me stuff I don't know while watching the paintings and stuff."
 i "Oh, so you just wanted a free tour guide? You're the worst."
 c "Nooo, it's not that, idiot!"
 i "Then what?"
 c "I just thought it could be cool to visit the museum with you."
 if ian_go_cindy > 1:
     i "That's what I wanted to hear."
     c "Oh my God, who are you, and what have you done with Ian?"
     i "Come on, let's go."

You put that with the outfit she chooses to wear and to me it's clear that she's at least a bit interested in Ian.

 

[Socrambus]

Im curious about something,for the people who play Lena as "pure" do you ignore the lesbian content?
For example the Louise-Lena mistress route,wich is one of the best in the game imo.

I personally don't, partly because is hot and might open future threesomes with Ian and partly because playing Lena that way has too little content. I used to play the Louise-Lena mistress path until I saw Louise's reaction to Ian during the threesome if she's not on that path. I think a possibly obsessed with Ian Louise opens interesting possibilities.

The thing is "most decent guy" isn't sexy. "Bad boy" is. That is sad reality: people who would value decency from the get go are rare.

It might be rare when you are 18, 20 or something like that. When you are nearing 30 and you live a life with adult responsabilities, most people value more than that. Take Jeremy case, for example. He's tall, muscly with a huge cock, that's cool for a one night stand or casual sex. But he's also an idiot that does most of his thinking with his dick and works as a waiter in a night club. What are his future prospects career wise?, honestly I'm surprised Eva hasn't introduced a possible porn actor path for him, it seems a match made in heaven.

 

[camube]

Ian Louise

how does Louise reacts on a non-mistress path threesome? compared to when she is Lena's sub?

 

[Esti]

a bit interested in Ian.

Never denied this. She is interested in Ian. But she is more interested in Axel.

 

[Esti]

When you are nearing 30 and you live a life with adult responsabilities, most people value

...money and stability more than that, yeah. And a chance to get life of your dreams, of course. You do know that those are things Axel have more of than Ian, right?

I get your point that Cindy is not a whore in search of big cock. And I agree! She is not a whore who would just jump anyone sexy. No, she wants the best and not only in the sex department. But that is precisely my point. She doesn't want to choose just someone, she doesn't want to be content with a mid life, she is tired of it. No, Cindy wants it all! And... Lo and behold! Axel! The King! The Golden Boy! The Key to make all your dreams come true!

He has more influence on her because he is like a perfect prince charming from her very own fantasy in almost every way (except the heart, but she can't know that). It's hard to beat that. Nobody wants to believe that their dream is an illusion, even moreso when it looks like you can grab it!

I am not sure that Ian can show her that he is better before Axel would score. But if he can... Than good for you! And I will be happy to beat the shit out of Axel if Ian would ever get the possibility.

 

[sglory]

This was always a Lena game,Ian is the simp cuck you are forced to play just to degrade him.
NEVER FORGET.
Mike fucked Ivy before him.
NEVER FORGET.
Jeremy fucked Ivy before him.

Sorry to ask, but did that actually happen in the game?
I think Ivy might have mentioned it that she and Mike have a history. I'm not really sure, haven't played it for a while. And Ivy could give Jeremy a bj in a game or something, I couldn't recall anything about she and Jeremy having sex though.
Would you mind to point out in which part of the game did that happen?

 

[GodOfAll]

This whole discourse is kinda dumb, why are people even calling this "cucking"? Everyone except stan and holly has had sex in the game. Its really funny because apparently Ian is a cuck for "only" getting girls who had sex, while ignoring that our dear lena has no romance options, except stan, which are virgin. Is lena a beta cuck loser too now? Also conveniently forgetting that Ian has fucking holly. He has a girl lusting after him that is literally the "cute needy but still good-looking virgin" trope incarnate as a romance option. Lena only got fucking stan.

On that note, I think people are forgetting that they have the choice. People are presented with an option to not do it and can be against it but still are angry about it and moan in this thread. If you are so angry that lena can get dicked down by bbc and Hispanics then just say no to them.

 

[manscout]

Ian is such a beta loser, I bet even his dad had sex before he did
/s

 

[dengl]

This whole discourse is kinda dumb, why are people even calling this "cucking"? Everyone except stan and holly has had sex in the game. Its really funny because apparently Ian is a cuck for "only" getting girls who had sex, while ignoring that our dear lena has no romance options, except stan, which are virgin. Is lena a beta cuck loser too now? Also conveniently forgetting that Ian has fucking holly. He has a girl lusting after him that is literally the "cute needy but still good-looking virgin" trope incarnate as a romance option. Lena only got fucking stan.

On that note, I think people are forgetting that they have the choice. People are presented with an option to not do it and can be against it but still are angry about it and moan in this thread. If you are so angry that lena can get dicked down by bbc and Hispanics then just say no to them.

Kekw. You got it right but we are talking about the majority of players of this game. Just take a slight look at patreon you will know how many people are set with the mind "Ian is a cuck". I still stand by my post earlier.

I agree but if EK continued to be driven by patreon, I'm afraid that's how it is with the amount of "cuck Ian" supporter. I have high amount of playthroughs including one with slut Lena + sexless cuck Ian. But this is a game where we shape these 2 MC into what they are and I find it amusing whenever I see people go on "Ian can only be cucked". Lena don't begin the story as a slut nor Ian born in the story to be a cuck. They are everything players mold them into by choices along the game.
Seriously people gonna dethrone Stan for that? Bro faps to his roommate's photos in his room and peep while her boyfriend railing her ass. Everything happened rather early in game as well if there's one who begins the story as a cuck, it's him.

 

[WatsonJohn]

This whole discourse is kinda dumb, why are people even calling this "cucking"? Everyone except stan and holly has had sex in the game. Its really funny because apparently Ian is a cuck for "only" getting girls who had sex, while ignoring that our dear lena has no romance options, except stan, which are virgin. Is lena a beta cuck loser too now? Also conveniently forgetting that Ian has fucking holly. He has a girl lusting after him that is literally the "cute needy but still good-looking virgin" trope incarnate as a romance option. Lena only got fucking stan.

On that note, I think people are forgetting that they have the choice. People are presented with an option to not do it and can be against it but still are angry about it and moan in this thread. If you are so angry that lena can get dicked down by bbc and Hispanics then just say no to them.

Holly isn't a virgin.

 

[Socrambus]

how does Louise reacts on a non-mistress path threesome? compared to when she is Lena's sub?

if ian_louise == 5:
      lo "..."
      lo "I... I'd like that..."
      l "It's settled then. Get ready for tonight... Ian will love it!"
elif louise_dominant:
      lo "I... Yes, mistress."
      $ flena = "slut"
      l "Great. You're such a good girl. You're gonna love it!"
      $ flouise = "smile"
      lo "Yes..."

 i "Alright... Are you really up for this, Louise?"
        if ian_louise == 5:
            $ flouise = "smile"
            lo "If it's with you, I am..."
            l "Don't worry about that, she and I already talked it over. So, are you into it?"
            i "I am... I definitely am."
            $ flouise = "happy"
        elif louise_dominant:
            $ flena = "evil"
            l "She is. Come over here, Louise."
            lo "Yes, mistress."
            $ flouise = "flirt"

   "With one hand, he fingered me, and with the other, he held Louise's hips and began dictating the thrusts.         
    "She moaned loudly, completely surrendering to the lust that burned inside of her."
            if louise_dominant:
                lo "Oh God, mistress...! Oh, yes!"
            elif ian_louise == 5:
                lo "Oh God, Ian...! Oh, yes!"
            else:
                lo "Oh God, Lena...! Oh, yes!"

That and all other Louise's reactions if her variable with Ian is 5 tell me that she's attracted to him. And knowing how obsessed she can quickly get, I think it might be entertaining drama if she's not sub to Lena.

This whole discourse is kinda dumb, why are people even calling this "cucking"? Everyone except stan and holly has had sex in the game. Its really funny because apparently Ian is a cuck for "only" getting girls who had sex, while ignoring that our dear lena has no romance options, except stan, which are virgin. Is lena a beta cuck loser too now? Also conveniently forgetting that Ian has fucking holly. He has a girl lusting after him that is literally the "cute needy but still good-looking virgin" trope incarnate as a romance option. Lena only got fucking stan.

On that note, I think people are forgetting that they have the choice. People are presented with an option to not do it and can be against it but still are angry about it and moan in this thread. If you are so angry that lena can get dicked down by bbc and Hispanics then just say no to them.

Holly is technically not a virgin even if she kind of fits the trope. The only virgin in the game is Stan. And all the "cucking" thing is mostly people trolling trying to get a rise from certain users, they are not really serious or so I hope.

 

[GodOfAll]

Just take a slight look at patreon you will know how many people are set with the mind "Ian is a cuck".

This might sound dumb but... shouldn't she implement that then? All people here are on a pirating platform.. If this is the thing the people that PAY for it want, isn't that all the reason to include it? Praise from this thread doesn't make the numbers of her bank account go up, so by all means, shouldn't she cater to those people? Jeremy was also number 1 on the charts for males. If those that actively support that project want that content, where's the problem?This perspective might be rare on this site, but im a pirate. I don't really support much but if people that pay want that content they should get it. If the whole game turns into a bbc orgy because investors want that, and are willing to pay for it, why shouldn't the creator of the work do that? I understand if people don't like fetishes, but complaining on this site is not really productive. I mean, we had the same posts FOR YEARS

 

[Xupuzulla]

Sorry to ask, but did that actually happen in the game?
I think Ivy might have mentioned it that she and Mike have a history. I'm not really sure, haven't played it for a while. And Ivy could give Jeremy a bj in a game or something, I couldn't recall anything about she and Jeremy having sex though.
Would you mind to point out in which part of the game did that happen?

Both in the chapter 11 epilogue.
Is pretty much confirmed Ivy fucked Mike.
If you help Jeremy with Ivy she leaves the night club with him so even through is not confirmed is not hard to believe he either fucks her or at least gets another bj.

 

[| Vee |]

...I am not sure that Ian can show her that he is better before Axel would score. But if he can... Than good for you! And I will be happy to beat the shit out of Axel if Ian would ever get the possibility.

Ian already did Cindy feels much more emotional connection with Ian and she indulged with Ian bcz of that whether it is cheating/romantic path Ian is offering her what Wade do not. You can see it in their interactions where Axel only serves as the cool guy who can lift her in her professional life that's all. While Ian provides more Emotional support, takes care of her and she is giving in slowly as we see she gives Ian blowjob if satisfaction of Cindy is 3, But of all Ian takes care of Cindy's emotional + physical needs.