To each their own :> I like Lena/Ian because with having control over actions of both parties it's very easy to shape a narrative that you want, out of many many possible variations. And i can't help but approach these games mainly as a story-writing experience for made up people, rather than self-insert device.Your example isn't a good one for me though since I don't view anything in Ian and Lena's relationship as at all impactful anyway. Since you control both perspectives I think their pairing is devoid of dramatic pacing.
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It is for Ian/Alison/Jeremy. When i said that you're right Alison can enter bimbo route even without Ian, i was referring to her doing it when she and Ian didn't have any sort of sexual contact. But the catch is, even in that case she is doing it to attract Ian's attention... so one way or another Ian is always at the center of Alison's bimbofication.
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You talking about GGGB or ORS? Cause I didn't play Jack route's. Does Jack mentions this to Lena?
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More like that he isn't the type to have one.
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You never know! EK might've changed it for ORS. It's all speculation till it is not revealed that who is Gillian(Chameleon's) boyfriend.
Technically Jack can settle with Ashley in GGGB, so it's not like he's completely incapable, he's just protecting himself from another heartbreak/disappointment. But i doubt he'd have one when he's still looking for quickies in clubs.
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I don't self-insert either, though I guess I do play Lena, to an extent, as kind of a manifestation of my own interests.
I've never been a fan of the split perspective narrative, at least when it comes to events that Lena and Ian are meant to have different views and experiences towards, I feel like their interactions are just giant spoilers. I'd have more fun playing Lena and not knowing what Ian was getting up to and thinking all the time.
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Agreed. Odd choice (IMO) to make it a multi-protag game...to me a large part of the succes of GGGB was that is was a sole FMC game. In my saves I couldn't care less what Ian is doing lol.
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To a degree that's my view too. I don't play the game with a vested interest in Ian, but I still try to have fun with his options, as long as they don't hinder Lena. No Ian/Holly for example, and next time I play I plan to not have him and Jeremy pursue Emma either to see how she reacts to Lena when they're out shopping. I was kinda miffed that Lena coming on to her just ended up getting her to start gushing about Jeremy-sex.
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I prefer playing as Ian since the picking a girl every playthrough and/or mixing them is neat. With Lena its harder, since most guys are shit.
I can confirm that Emma doesn't mention Jeremy at all if Ian doesn't get involved with her. At least that's how it played out in my game, when Lena teased her and got flirty.
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I wasn't trying to restart the "I prefer protagonist x" discussion, it's my opinion that Ian's story would be better without Lena's perspective too. I just happen to prefer female MC, so that's where I focus my discussion.
Ian is the one who puts the idea of getting with Emma into Jeremy's head so I was assuming that'd be the case. I'm not expecting some grand revelation mind you, I just found it unappealing that when I had a girl grope another girl, the victim starts talking about cock right away. I was kinda hoping the option would lead to something starting between the two women.
I do remember IanxLena. Jeremy relents after a lot of pressure from Lena. Look, I know Jeremy isn't a good guy, but he's not a bad guy either. He's a decent looking guy, with a big dick, that is pretty easily manipulated by others around him. A himbo basically.Are you sure you write that correct?
You really didn't forget IanxLena, DID YOU?
You want me to go down this road AGAIN?
Seriously, WTF are you guys reading? Or are you guys UNABLE to grasp the story?
I'm baffled at the audacity of people who are constantly trying to project Jeremy as GOOD GUY!
WHY are you guys putting veil upon his actions?
#WTF
So perhaps willingly would have been a better word? He knowingly fucked Lena while she was dating Ian and he lacked the willpower to tell her "No," but he wasn't actively trying to get in her pants, especially if heretofore Ian hasn't been comfortable with the idea of others also being interested in his LI.
I agree it would be. But for me, I'm not seeing any solid indications that it's the case. In Chapter 6, when Lena and Mike have sex, and Lena gives Mike a titfuck. She asks Mike if his girlfriend does this for him. And Mike responds no, because she's pretty much flat-chested. The problem with that, is that Gillian isn't flat-chested. She has very similar breasts to Lena. Because when Ian meets Gillian, Lena is initially with him and you can compare the two of them. If Gillian isn't flat-chested, then that suggests that she can't be Mike's girlfriend.
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As per Cuckolding's path, What Can Poor Ian can do ?? He has never expected that his own Ex- Girlfriend Gillian would make him suffer like that
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He might to focus back on his art classes with his New model roomie Pierre
Maybe Perry can give him some new Sexy pose
?? He has never expected that his own Ex- Girlfriend Gillian would make him suffer like that 
Expected This
Got this He might to focus back on his art classes with his New model roomie Pierre
Maybe Perry can give him some new Sexy pose I think it will start to something, we just need to get to the beach house. The seed has certainly been sown. I think the whole point of Emma revealing her sexcapades with Jeremy to Lena was for them to form certain bonds about sex and / or fetishes: anal, BBC, the pink vibrator that Seymour makes Lena wear; and to establish furry and / or beastiality since we've also seen the horsecock dildo at the sex shop. It is the first time that Lena is able to purchase those, so it's also a way for EK to bring attention to the fact that new items are in the sex shop.I just found it unappealing that when I had a girl grope another girl, the victim starts talking about cock right away. I was kinda hoping the option would lead to something starting between the two women.
Side Note: For my own mental health I really hope beastiality doesn't become a thing, watching the Project Myriam thread become a non-stop beastiality wishlist from the users has actively hurt my overall enjoyment of that game.
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Bestiality wasn't in GGGB and I doubt Eva would introduce it in ORS. That said, pet play and such already has an apperance so I guess we'll see.
I suppose you might be right about Emma and the kinks, it was a theme of their shopping trip too, if I recall correctly the whole anal plug tail. My Lena automatically turned down the idea from me having previously elected to deny anal, which I was a bit sad about. You don't have to be into anal specifically to find tail plugs interesting, at least I don't think so.
This right here is why i wish we knew the population of baluart, maybe the reason jeremy didn't tell ian about gillian is because he thought the city was big enough that they wouldn't run into each other as well as to spare him getting hurt again.
No, Gillian's bust is quite noticeably smaller:
Even in the situation you mention, when she and Lena appear side by side, Lena's bust is drawn with more pronounced lines:
Gillian isn't literally flat-chested but Mike isn't being literal when he describes his girlfriend.