VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

What's your guys rating of the update (not the chapter, so just the new content we got yesterday)? --> x.x / 10

Overall I'd say it's a 7/10. There's lots of decent content, though some of it feels like extra padding on routes that already have lots of material (Holly with various men, Ian being with women he's been with before etc.). Typically I'd give it a mid score of 5/10, but the Louise texting and Emma scenes add some spiciness and treads some new ground, the scenes are generally really good, I can appreciate the quality of Lena/Axel and Ian/Holly even if I don't play their routes, and surprisingly I found the more tender moments between Wade and Ian rather sweet. Wade needs a pal, and Perry ain't one that's good for him. Pity some of my Ian's are shifty bastards who wanna get with Cindy.

Ian paid him to get stuffs for BBQ and whatnot and Perry behaves as if he did everything.

By the way, does anyone know if helping pay for the food changes anything in this update? Or does it only impact the Perry relationship when it happens? Perhaps he won't buy Emma's vegan burgers if Ian doesn't pay?

So Louise will literally throw herself at any guy who as much as talks normally with her once. Not surprising, but still... sad.

To be honest this has made Louise immensely more interesting to me. Not in a "I like this girl now" kinda way, but just the sheer audacity has me sort of curious to see where it can lead with her and her various relationship combinations.

 

[lucadiadis]

that was in a ffive's post

if lena_cheating > 0.5:
                l "Would it count as cheating? I don't think it has the same connotations when doing it with a girl..."
            elif ian_lena_open:
                l "I wonder if she'd be open to a threesome with me and Ian... That could be interesting."
            elif ian_lena_couple or lena_ian_love > 0.5:
                l "But that's not what I'm looking for right now... Not when I have Ian."
            if lena_holly_love:
                l "But I guess that's not what I'm interested in right now. Not when I have Holly..."

This is precisely the step I am missing. I have none of those, and since Ian and Lena are a couple and that she did not cheat on him, I should have the second sentence.

 

[gorloff]

This is precisely the step I am missing. I have none of those, and since Ian and Lena are a couple and that she did not cheat on him, I should have the second sentence.

Then you should choose an option "We can experiment together" or something like that in ch9

 

[massifteetees]

He literally start bitching about some cheap beers in chapter 1,the guy is a pain in the ass,thats his whole character.

I like his character. Not him as a character, I hate people like him in real life. That's why I like his character, people like that are out there.

 

[Maviarab]

To be honest this has made Louise immensely more interesting to me. Not in a "I like this girl now" kinda way, but just the sheer audacity has me sort of curious to see where it can lead with her and her various relationship combinations.

I swear I'm the only person here that actually likes Louise lol.

 

[lucadiadis]

Then you should choose an option "We can experiment together" or something like that in ch9

I have.

 

[massifteetees]

Yup, it's time to go full pegging. Treated him like a normal human being for so long but he turned out to be a nerd douche.

Yup yup, I let Ian and Lena treat him like a normal person would, especially as Ian who tolerates his entitled behaviour. Dude thinks he deserves Emma but won't take action. Complains about every other girl that Ian knows or is friends with. I haven't reached Chapter 10 yet, based on these comments I assume he gets worse.

 

[metagrossrj]

This is insane.
EvaKiss' choice to make so many routes and her decision to please a large audience with all kinds of different fetishes, comes back to bite itself.

Her newest update is basically just 1-2 days.
I personally play 3 different paths, and I found the content very lackluster. There were a couple of good scenes, but when I think about the fact, that it took about 5 MONTHS to get this update, it is somewhat disappointing.

I don't blame the developer entirely for this. There is a lot of content. The problem is that there is a lot of content, that I am personally not interested in. I didn't even try to watch the content. I have 1 "main path" and 2 different paths that I am interested in, but that's about it.

I don't know how to fix the problem here though. EvaKiss has opened so many story paths that it's probably hard to create enough content for all of them.

 

[Maviarab]

More people 'choose' not to see/view all available content.

Whine there is not enough content...

 

[lorkdubo]

More people 'choose' not to see/view all available content.

Whine there is not enough content...

But, it is a valid point. There are a lot of variables/routes that only open very specifically given certain actions and choices, like Emma route, for example and it's quite late in the game, which is a long game, btw. Now, i think a great solution would be a route builder and everyone would be happy. We have the example of "Where the Heart is" who did this, and it's so great.

 

[Rickster82]

What is the reward Ian gets from Ivy? Unfortunally also with gallery unlocker the pic/scene is locked.

 

[fatpussy123]

I swear I'm the only person here that actually likes Louise lol.

I like Louise on the Ian path. In her two other paths she's boring to me. I'm not really into lesbians just getting it on, only interesting when there's a guy also involved. The Jeremy path also isn't really interesting for me cuz why would I care about Jeremy neglecting his goth gf.

The Ian path is more fresh and actually has Louise as the center focus. She is audacious in her approach despite not knowing Ian well. Her dialogue already has Ian calling her an obedient girl, implying it'll take less time for the maledom content to develop with her, compared to Cherry and Emma who only recently are getting degradation options.

So in conclusion, for me, her development this update is the best thing that could've happened for her character, since the other routes don't appeal to me.

 

[Maviarab]

But, it is a valid point. There are a lot of variables/routes that only open very specifically given certain actions and choices, like Emma route, for example and it's quite late in the game, which is a long game, btw. Now, i think a great solution would be a route builder and everyone would be happy. We have the example of "Where the Heart is" who did this, and it's so great.

But with a milti-protag VN (even more so if played GGGB) then you know, before you even start, there will be numerous and multiple routes. So accept that or don't play. Don't play and then whine there isn't enough content on the path you want to see, because that will be a given from the very first update.

So yes, it's a choice to not see everything the developer did.

 

[jinwoo1412]

What reward does Ian get from Ivy? Please share me the save file for this person

 

[Gicoo]

We complain about Perry a bit more because there were some measures spread over the whole game that let him improve, but this chapter backpedaled on it regardless if you helped him or not. If he acted like an ass only if Ian made fun of him and if he improved because Ian was a friend to him, it would be much easier to accept.

I swear I'm the only person here that actually likes Louise lol.

I doubt anyone would want to live with her, but she is can be an entertaining element to throw in in various pairings. She and Jeremy are mostly over, aside from the triangle with Lena. Lena/Louise is spiraling down, since Louise became even more needy and Lena shows no indication to be truly interested in her. So her getting interested in Ian, who likely already has one or multiple partners, is an exciting desaster waiting to unfold.
And want her and Ian get a normal relationship and bonding over Lena/Jeremy fucking them over.

 

[ffive]

By the way, does anyone know if helping pay for the food changes anything in this update? Or does it only impact the Perry relationship when it happens? Perhaps he won't buy Emma's vegan burgers if Ian doesn't pay?

There's text variants which hinge on how much Ian has contributed:

    e "I see you guys are already hard at work!"
    w "Good coals need time and care."
    i "I hope you bought enough food for everyone!"
    if v12_bbq == 2:
        p "Of course. There's enough to l--{w=0.5}last for several days."
        i "Nice."
    elif v12_bbq == 1:
        p "Don't worry about it. There's e--{w=0.5}enough for everybody..."
        i "We'll see about that."
    else:
        p "I did what I c--{w=0.5}could. If only a certain someone had p--{w=0.5}pitched in..."
        i "I have the feeling I shouldn't have trusted you with this..."
// ...
    i "Damn, these burgers are amazing!"
    h "Oh, wow! It's true... So tasty!"
    w "Told you! I'm the BBQ Master and fire is my element!"
    if v12_bbq == 2:
        e "And these vegan burgers are incredible too! Cooked to perfection!"
        p "I'm glad you like them... I bought different types. They have them in every flavor!"
        e "Yeah, there's a ton... Do you guys wanna try one?" 
        h "I'd like to..."
        if v10_emma_sex:
            e "Help yourself! I don't think I'm gonna go hungry!"
            e "Well, and if I do... I'm sure I'll find something to get myself filled up with."
        else:
            e "Help yourself!"
            $ v12_perry_success += 1
    elif v12_bbq == 1:
        e "Mine is also very good! Thank you for getting a few vegan burgers too."
        p "Of course... I wasn't sure which ones to b--{w=0.5}buy. They have them in every flavor!"
        p "They're e--{w=0.5}expensive, though... I wish I could've gotten a few more."
        e "Don't worry, I don't think I'm gonna go hungry!"
        if v10_emma_sex:
            e "Well, and if I do... I'm sure I'll find something to get myself filled up with."
    else:
        e "They look really tasty..."
        e "I wish we had something else other than bread and potatoes for the vegetarian crew over here."
        "Wade speared a burger with his fork and held it up to Emma's face."
        w "It's not too late to join the dark side!"
        e "No, thank, you..."
        e "But a vegan burger or something would've been good..."
        p "T--{w=0.5}those are too e--{w=0.5}expensive... I had to buy f--{w=0.5}food for the six of us, and also b--{w=0.5}beer..."
        w "Beer first and foremost! Cheers!"
        p "If s--{w=0.5}someone I know had pitched in..."
        i "Hey, don't look at me. You're the organizer over here."
        $ v12_perry_success -= 1

Note these perry_success changes. This is affecting potential outcome of Perry's confession, if Perry and Emma haven't hooked up before.

 

[SearingFive]

Overall I'd say it's a 7/10. There's lots of decent content, though some of it feels like extra padding on routes that already have lots of material (Holly with various men, Ian being with women he's been with before etc.). Typically I'd give it a mid score of 5/10, but the Louise texting and Emma scenes add some spiciness and treads some new ground, the scenes are generally really good, I can appreciate the quality of Lena/Axel and Ian/Holly even if I don't play their routes, and surprisingly I found the more tender moments between Wade and Ian rather sweet. Wade needs a pal, and Perry ain't one that's good for him. Pity some of my Ian's are shifty bastards who wanna get with Cindy.

By the way, does anyone know if helping pay for the food changes anything in this update? Or does it only impact the Perry relationship when it happens? Perhaps he won't buy Emma's vegan burgers if Ian doesn't pay?

To be honest this has made Louise immensely more interesting to me. Not in a "I like this girl now" kinda way, but just the sheer audacity has me sort of curious to see where it can lead with her and her various relationship combinations.

I didn't get the time to do that run, but for tormenting Perry in my new run I'll do that. I'll let you know if anything changes if we don't pay that clown.
Edit - Oh, ffive already posted the codes. Thanks mate.

 

[uncommonsence]

Not sure what makes you say this. Lena at the very fucking start of the game is a person without any real background and the only thing we learn about her is that she just broke up with her boyfriend Axel, which is one fixed aspect of all provided backstories in Ch.12.

u just admitted that you never actually read all that useless dialogues. And it's ok until you decide to yolojump in dat boring discussions.

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and that's wild girl is the same person that

1. cries in a random alley over a minor argument with her bf
2. waitressing in a boring family café
3. interested in books, music, art
4. doesn't hook up with anyone for several months after breaking up with bf
5. ignores social media
6. all is super cute and overly polite
7. overreacting when asked about sexual life, etc.

Spoiler: lena quotes first chapter

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[Gicoo]

What reward does Ian get from Ivy? Please share me the save file for this person

 

[ffive]

u just admitted that you never actually read all that useless dialogues. And it's ok until you decide to yolojump in dat boring discussions.

You can leave this sort of wild speculations off the next time. Not only are they wrong, they contribute nothing.

and that's wild girl is the same person that

1. cries in a random alley over a minor argument with her bf
2. waitressing in a boring family café
3. interested in books, music, art
4. doesn't hook up with anyone for several months after breaking up with bf
5. ignores social media
6. all is super cute and overly polite
7. overreacting when asked about sexual life, etc.

You seem to be under impression that a person who's had more than few sexual partners can't be possibly interested in books, or put up with a shitty job, or have good manners, or be devastated after discovering her most serious boyfriend to date has been cheating on her to the point where she'd shy away from getting close with anyone for a few months.

You're simply mistaken.