HUNUTAN

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Damn I thought we were finally going to get mmf scenes. It was high time that such scenes appeared given the variety of scenes with different men and many hints in conversations. But nevertheless, we only have one scene like this with Alison and a couple of “video” scenes. And, in principle, rougher scenes seemed to start appearing, but then for some reason they didn’t really begin to develop and again the usual scenes went on as if nothing had happened...
But in this update we got Emma... Damn, who even needs Emma, the most unattractive female character in the entire game? Why not finally give a normal sex scene with that same Ivy, for example? I'm sure that many would like to see this, unlike Emma...
 

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while Perry has friends somehow when his entire thing seems to be someone who just goes out of his way to be a miserable prick who not only resists any attempts others offer to meet someone but then actively ruin other people's relationships too.
Perry simply doesn't have any filter. But he also tries to support his friends in whatever limited ways he can come up with. He's genuinely concerned about Wade, and he even plays wingman for Ian at the very start of the game, getting the contact info from Lena for him, when Ian is too shy to ask for it himself.
 

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Every time I come back to this I completely forget how much of a genuine piece of shit Perry is as a character to the point they're easily the least-likable person in the game, which is saying something when half the cast are actively cheating on their partners.

At least with Stan it's someone who seems to simply be suffering from not having socialised as a child and therefore probably wouldn't be terrible if he actually got out and found some friends IRL, while Perry has friends somehow when his entire thing seems to be someone who just goes out of his way to be a miserable prick who not only resists any attempts others offer to meet someone but then actively ruin other people's relationships too.
People are turning so much on Perry even Stan keeps getting praise:KEK:
 

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Perry simply doesn't have any filter. But he also tries to support his friends in whatever limited ways he can come up with. He's genuinely concerned about Wade, and he even plays wingman for Ian at the very start of the game, getting the contact info from Lena for him, when Ian is too shy to ask for it himself.
Really, because in later convos it seems clear he was only getting Lena's info to stalk her profile while his "concern" for Wade is easily more to do with him hating Cindy than actually liking Wade. If anything he seems almost parasitic when it comes to Wade, actively wanting to break them up only so he can fuck about playing video games with Wade rather than any actual concern for Wade's happiness.
 

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Wait, how can you actually stick with holly after that situation? Don't you always go down the breakup path if you do? I don't recall there having an option of saying you prefer her over Lena. In the end, my Ian ended up with neither, but all of them remained good friends until Holly decided to kiss Lena.
Yes, you need to make sure when you sleep with Holly, Ian has slept with Lena, but is not in love with Lena. The lena love flag comes from talking with Jeremy and saying youre falling for Lena.
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Kids these days. We used to have to do everything with bits of paper and a pen/pencil when I first started gaming lol. I use spreadsheets and notepad++ for nearly all VN's I play.

Back iinnnn myyyy daaayyyyy hehehe
Hey just because I'm not techno-illiterate doesn't mean I don't also hail from the pen-and-paper era. I actually still have an old notebook lying around somewhere, where I scribbled down details for my games like Diablo II runewords and what gifts my chosen bachelorette liked most in Harvest Moon! :ROFLMAO:
 
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People are turning so much on Perry even Stan keeps getting praise:KEK:
At least with Stan I can see how they've ended up in the situation they are but actively (if badly) trying to get out of it. Perry meanwhile seems to just want to be that person who peaked in school and wants to maintain that for the rest of their lives, while expecting those around them to also live that way.

Fucker charges Ian rent and is clearly pocketing it to maintain his own lifestyle.
 
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Every time I come back to this I completely forget how much of a genuine piece of shit Perry is as a character to the point they're easily the least-likable person in the game, which is saying something when half the cast are actively cheating on their partners.

At least with Stan it's someone who seems to simply be suffering from not having socialised as a child and therefore probably wouldn't be terrible if he actually got out and found some friends IRL, while Perry has friends somehow when his entire thing seems to be someone who just goes out of his way to be a miserable prick who not only resists any attempts others offer to meet someone but then actively ruin other people's relationships too.
There is Lena's mother too. My vote goes for her for least-likeable thing in the game.
 

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Eva has mentioned she will be adding scenes in the beta/final version of ch 12. Anyone have guesses as to what those may be? Is it going to be messages from characters who couldnt make it to the beach ie Alison, Cherry, Cindy?
 

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Really, because in later convos it seems clear he was only getting Lena's info to stalk her profile while his "concern" for Wade is easily more to do with him hating Cindy than actually liking Wade. If anything he seems almost parasitic when it comes to Wade, actively wanting to break them up only so he can fuck about playing video games with Wade rather than any actual concern for Wade's happiness.
Really really. This is how he acts at the beach house:
Python:
    "We cracked open some beers in the garden while Lena and Holly, helped by Wade, took care of the cooking."
    if wade_cindy == 2:
        p "I'd say Wade looks like he's back to normal, don't you th--{w=0.5}think?"
        i "Yeah, he looks alright to me."
        p "Cool. So he won't want any l--{w=0.5}lasting effects from that bad trip."
        e "No, of course not..."
        w "What are you guys talking about?"
        i "We were just saying we're glad to have you back with us. Will you join us at the beach tomorrow?"
        w "Yeah, sure."
    else:
        p "..."
        i "You look serious."
        p "Huh? No, I was just w--{w=0.5}watching Wade..."
        p "I'm having trouble seeing if he's b--{w=0.5}back to normal or not."
        e "I think he is..."
        i "Well, he's been pretty quiet and absent-minded during the whole day."
        p "Do you think he'll have any l--{w=0.5}lasting effects from that bad trip?"
        e "What? No... I hope not."
        w "What are you guys talking about?"
        e "It's nothing... Will you join us at the beach tomorrow?"
        w "I guess so..."
        "Wade sat down and lit up another joint while sipping his beer."
He's the only person who actually pays attention to Wade's behavior after the drug fuckup. (technically Ian can have a reaction too, but that's up to the player)
 
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Really really. This is how he acts at the beach house:
Python:
    "We cracked open some beers in the garden while Lena and Holly, helped by Wade, took care of the cooking."
    if wade_cindy == 2:
        p "I'd say Wade looks like he's back to normal, don't you th--{w=0.5}think?"
        i "Yeah, he looks alright to me."
        p "Cool. So he won't want any l--{w=0.5}lasting effects from that bad trip."
        e "No, of course not..."
        w "What are you guys talking about?"
        i "We were just saying we're glad to have you back with us. Will you join us at the beach tomorrow?"
        w "Yeah, sure."
    else:
        p "..."
        i "You look serious."
        p "Huh? No, I was just w--{w=0.5}watching Wade..."
        p "I'm having trouble seeing if he's b--{w=0.5}back to normal or not."
        e "I think he is..."
        i "Well, he's been pretty quiet and absent-minded during the whole day."
        p "Do you think he'll have any l--{w=0.5}lasting effects from that bad trip?"
        e "What? No... I hope not."
        w "What are you guys talking about?"
        e "It's nothing... Will you join us at the beach tomorrow?"
        w "I guess so..."
        "Wade sat down and lit up another joint while sipping his beer."
He's the only person who actually pays attention to Wade's behavior after the drug fuckup. (technically Ian can have a reaction too, but that's up to the player)
That's still not explicitly caring about Wade's wellbeing out of altruistic reasons, and can still easily be read out of simply wanting to make sure Wade stays in that place where Perry wants him. His concern that Wade could change as a result of the bad trip could quite simply be not wanting him to leave his stoner-adjacent lifestyle.
 

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That's still not explicitly caring about Wade's wellbeing out of altruistic reasons, and can still easily be read out of simply wanting to make sure Wade stays in that place where Perry wants him. His concern that Wade could change as a result of the bad trip could quite simply be not wanting him to leave his stoner-adjacent lifestyle.
Sure, you can construct whatever headcanon you want about his motives, but at this point i'm not sure if anything short of Perry going down on his knees and proposing to Wade would convince you about his intentions not being just selfish. Perhaps not even then.

The thing is, at no point Perry displays motives you accuse him of, either. He doesn't say anything to such effect to anyone.
 

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Wait, for Ian&Lena&Holly throuple we need to pursue Holly with both MCs? Do I understand right? :unsure:
You understand right, but it's just not true. The throuple can also be started if Ian only ever got in relationship with Lena (and only being friends with Holly) The only factor which matters is Lena and Holly establishing a close bond (lena_go_holly = 5) and Lena not cheating on Ian with people other than Axel, because then she'll automatically decide she doesn't want to drag Holly into her messed up love life situation.
 

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Sure, you can construct whatever headcanon you want about his motives, but at this point i'm not sure if anything short of Perry going down on his knees and proposing to Wade would convince you about his intentions not being just selfish. Perhaps not even then.
Lol, dude it's not "constructing headcanon". All it states is that Perry thinks Wade is "back to normal". However given that Perry's desired normal is being an unemployed layabout who simply spends his days playing video games and smoking weed with Wade, and many of his previously expressed frustrations are whenever Wade isn't spending time with Perry, it's easily viewable simply as Perry being happy Wade remains in that slacker situation and that the bad trip hasn't also given him a kick up the backside to maybe do something with his life that doesn't revolve around being Forever 21.
 
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Hey just because I'm not techno-illiterate doesn't mean I don't also hail from the pen-and-paper era. I actually still have an old notebook lying around somewhere, where I scribbled down details for my games like Diablo II runewords and what gifts my chosen bachelorette liked most in Harvest Moon! :ROFLMAO:
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NAH. Potato head Robert takes the cake for me. Eff that guy :mad:
There are so many terrible characters in the game, main villain is not part of the who is the worst discussion. :LOL:
I agree eff that guy but Lena's mother is still the worst for me. Think about it, she knew Lena was working her ass off. She had to give up her dreams to help them, then she took all the money Lena gave and gave it to her brother who according to Lena, is good for nothing. She only realised she did not know where her daughter was living because she could not snitch on her crazy ex. Each time they talked on the phone, she was just bitching. If Lena wanted to hang out a little bit with her friends instead of taking an early train she acted like Lena murdered a sack of kittens and so on.

You understand right, but it's just not true. The throuple can also be started if Ian only ever got in relationship with Lena (and only being friends with Holly) The only factor which matters is Lena and Holly establishing a close bond (lena_go_holly = 5) and Lena not cheating on Ian with people other than Axel, because then she'll automatically decide she doesn't want to drag Holly into her messed up love life situation.
So Ian and Lena together. Lena has interest in Holly. Ian has interest in Holly. Lena not cheating.

So, what about Louise? Can Lena have something with her? Also what about cheating Ian? :unsure:
 
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