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As I recall from GGGB Arthur and his daughter Iris didn't go "all the way" .... merely stopping at things such as oral and vaginal intercourse and of course anal sex. So really it was just basic flirting and probably did not violate patreon rules.
... having vaginal or anal sex *is* going "all the way". Arthur fucks his daughter, first blindfolded and then, after mind-breaking her, repeatedly and openly. This is not "just basic flirting" by any measure but regular incest that starts with a rape, and yes, it does violate patreon rules.
 

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... having vaginal or anal sex *is* going "all the way". Arthur fucks his daughter, first blindfolded and then, after mind-breaking her, repeatedly and openly. This is not "just basic flirting" by any measure but regular incest that starts with a rape, and yes, it does violate patreon rules.
Thank you. I needed a "straight man".
(i need to keep up the tradition of mutual goofing with Xupuzulla.)
 

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If Ian is in love with Lena, he can't commit to Holly.

I don't remember if Lena being in love with Ian stops Ian and Holly from commiting to each other (don't think so but might delay it a couple scenes while Ian reassures Holly past the drama).

If they are both casual about sleeping with each other (or not sleeping with each other at all) it should be completely safe. Honestly if I'm doing commited IanxHolly I just keep things platonic between Ian and Lena, avoids so much unnecessary drama.

Holding out hope that there will be an alternative entrance to the "throuple" route later with Ian and Holly in a relationship and Lena being the one inserted into it because she keeps having the hots for Holly, but it looks like the "throuple" route is mostly being designed for the high-school tier drama of them both having kissed Holly while dating each other and taking 10 chapters to resolve to just fuck her together.
 

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... having vaginal or anal sex *is* going "all the way". Arthur fucks his daughter, first blindfolded and then, after mind-breaking her, repeatedly and openly. This is not "just basic flirting" by any measure and yes, it does violate patreon rules.
This reminded me of a fanfiction I've read long ago on wattpad: Older perverted guy convincing a young virgin/innocent/pure girl it's not sex if he puts just a tip inside her, promising he won't go all the way in. :WaitWhat: :FacePalm:
 
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So what character so far have the option to pursue a relationship with? As in there's a text option with the interlocking rings icon. Is it only Lena and Cindy?
 

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The last Patreon post was a brilliant piece of self deprecating satire... Otherwise EK would still consider essentially whining about writer's block and claiming "the past X weeks I have been working but haven't gotten as much done as I had planned" a legit or novel status update. She is clearly playing 5D chess. One update per year is plenty, having the game finish by 2032+ is great. Surely by that time technology and porn game mechanics will not have progressed beyond semi static images and textboxes.

But in all honesty imagine if the patronage was structured to pay out per Release not per months. And there were a minimum in terms of images or lines of code to be considered an update. Back in the day some Youtubers had Patreons that were structured this way. You pledged for example 5$ per video and a video had to be 10+min long to fit the 2-Advert structure of YouTube at the time. This ensured financial support for the creator but also incentivised productivity. But now we are in the era where creators just have to get a large enough base who are going to support them no matter what (bc of a parasocial relationship) or just forget that they still pay for the patreon.
 

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The last Patreon post was a brilliant piece of self deprecating satire... Otherwise EK would still consider essentially whining about writer's block and claiming "the past X weeks I have been working but haven't gotten as much done as I had planned" a legit or novel status update. She is clearly playing 5D chess. One update per year is plenty, having the game finish by 2032+ is great. Surely by that time technology and porn game mechanics will not have progressed beyond semi static images and textboxes.

But in all honesty imagine if the patronage was structured to pay out per Release not per months. And there were a minimum in terms of images or lines of code to be considered an update. Back in the day some Youtubers had Patreons that were structured this way. You pledged for example 5$ per video and a video had to be 10+min long to fit the 2-Advert structure of YouTube at the time. This ensured financial support for the creator but also incentivised productivity. But now we are in the era where creators just have to get a large enough base who are going to support them no matter what (bc of a parasocial relationship) or just forget that they still pay for the patreon.
The last patreon post is disgusting,"THE PUZZLE OF CREATING NEW SCENES" the fuck?o_O
The fuck is she yapping about?
 
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Eva should've never made both Ian and Lena playable at the same time and instead make you choose and make the other one an NPC who's decisions are influenced by the main character, similar how Jessica works in the game but more of it. Basically 1 main character and 1 main NPC.

She would still deliver on the original promise of "red string" characters tied together by fate, but it would make the game much more manageable. Two main characters creates so many moving elements in the story that it's honestly impressive how she still delivers updates instead of ending up in a mental asylum.
 

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Eva should've never made both Ian and Lena playable at the same time and instead make you choose and make the other one an NPC who's decisions are influenced by the main character, similar how Jessica works in the game but more of it. Basically 1 main character and 1 main NPC.

She would still deliver on the original promise of "red string" characters tied together by fate, but it would make the game much more manageable. Two main characters creates so many moving elements in the story that it's honestly impressive how she still delivers updates instead of ending up in a mental asylum.
Afraid such approach wouldn't help in terms of complexity -- there would still need to be full choice path for each of two selectable protagonists, and if anything, it'd require extra code for the "NPC" version of each MC, to react to choices made by the player with the other MC.
 

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So what character so far have the option to pursue a relationship with? As in there's a text option with the interlocking rings icon. Is it only Lena and Cindy?
Someone already mentioned Holly. I think Ian has one with Alison as well, at least if he doesn't suggest the threesome, though I am unsure if it's unavailable when he's seeing other girls too.
 

ffive

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Someone already mentioned Holly. I think Ian has one with Alison as well, at least if he doesn't suggest the threesome, though I am unsure if it's unavailable when he's seeing other girls too.
For what's worth, the "double rings" icon so far has been used for Ian/Lena relationship option, Ian/Cindy and, interestingly enough, for Ian/Holly in Ch.12 if Ian is fully accepting when Holly tells him news about having hots for Lena:
Python:
            h "I'm the worst..."
            menu v12lenagohollymenu:
                "{image=icon_ring.webp}I want to be with you, Holly" if ian_holly_love:
                    $ holly_trinity = 2
                    i "Stop beating yourself up like that, Holly. I'm not mad..."
                    i "I want to be with you... That hasn't changed."
Not sure how this option differs from heart-marked options. Perhaps it's more "official" kind of relationship declaration?
 

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Unless your save is from rework that took place like, couple years go, you should be good. As long as you didn't save literally on the "end of content for now" screen.
Now that I think about it I don't think I have ever saved on the "end of content" page with any game. I always make sure to rollback to the last cliffhanger scene before saving, so I can remember where the previous update cut off just by glancing at the thumbnail.

Anyways, I am glad I saw this post. I never realized that it was so easy to ruin a save.
 
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