Turret

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up to what ive played I like Ivy more than Emma and Allison for me. Not counting Lena I like Holly best ( easily best girl if Lena wasn't a MC) , then Ivy , Cindy don't care for the rest. Tho I admit Emma and Allison are decent characters but up to what ive played I found them kind of boring and only suitable for a manslut run.
Here we see our various tastes shine through. For me the best girls are Holly, Lena and Alison (because of their personality and they like Ian for being Ian). Cherry is ok, the rest are not really interesting me.
 

ffive

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Yeah, but being logical and realistic, unless Eva setups that plotline and then just drops it (because development isn't already shitty enough), it will happen.
The real question is, will Stan get a FFM threesome and/or start cheating on Lena. The latter in particular is hilarious enough it'd save this plotline.
 

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Is it known why Stan got a redo and a whole plotline?
The answer is hear is "patreons", but was Stan crushing polls and is that even enough? Is there a high tier exclusive discord group that can dictate what Eva is supposed to do? Is Eva that gullible that they would follow a minority of fans?

I don't get it, Eva stated that they doesn't like Stan, so why go the extra mile and not let him stay an extra, instead?
 

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Is it known why Stan got a redo and a whole plotline?
The answer is hear is "patreons", but was Stan crushing polls and is that even enough? Is there a high tier exclusive discord group that can dictate what Eva is supposed to do? Is Eva that gullible that they would follow a minority of fans?

I don't get it, Eva stated that they doesn't like Stan, so why go the extra mile and not let him stay an extra, instead?
Patreon users wanted another good romance choice for Lena besides Ian. EvaKiss tried to redo Stan in such a way.
I personally try to be respectful to Stan as Lena, but I would never let him touch my girl...
 
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Gicoo

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Patreon users wanted another good romance choice for Lena besides Ian. EvaKiss tried to redo Stan in such a way.
By having him deliver the toxic, pathetic, incel confession.

Still insane that there are no decent men in this game aside generic Ian. Guess Eva doubled down on all the assholes (which are fine to an extent and with good guys to counteract). Even Ian can be a asshole chad.

Man, I miss Dave, the legend.
 

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Patreon users wanted another good romance choice for Lena besides Ian. EvaKiss tried to redo Stan in such a way.
I personally try to be respectful to Stan as Lena, but I would never let him touch my girl...
Stan was already in a really good spot for that though. The rework specifically made him an incel and even more of a loser to start. He was originally much more like Holly; a low confidence, nerdy character that the foundation was being laid for a glow up in the same way that Holly has been receiving. The conflict between him and Louise was much more subdued, and Louise thought of him as more of a slob than an outright creep. I forget if it was a life drawing event or a concert, but Lena could invite Stan and when he showed up with a fedora and a trench coat she said she would work with him on it after he said he thought he looked cool.

I've said this many times before, Stan's rework was a net negative in my opinion. Perhaps others like incel Stan more, but I found him much more interesting in that early development phase. It felt like he had way more possibility as a character then, than he does now. Perhaps if Lena is on Stan's romantic path a lot of those possibilities could still manifest. But the other interesting aspect of Stan's early character was that it felt like Lena could still help Stan, as a friend, without having to be a romantic interest.
 

DarkLurker12

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He's a fetish, the whole black guy = BBC fetish thing is quite annoying. It's both racist against black people and plays into cuck shit I have no interest in. But yea, I love EK's work but my only real complaint is how black men are presented (by contrast, Cherry is very much a real person and one of the most drama free LI's).
Darn, I feared as much.

As much as Eva kiss seems to handle black people less stereotypically then most of the games on this site, I was hoping that she would take a character first fetish second approach. Like, giving options to play along with the fetish as Jeremy has or engaging with his authentic self and gettng him to drop the act a bit like Jack did in GGGB at least. (I know several black men that have been forced to play up the fetish in the dating world to mixed results.) I mean sure, its not the gold standard that was Dave, but I'm not so naive to expect any developer to give us a Dave-like with a BBC bonus in his pants to keep the fetish lovers happy.

So what are the current endgame options being hinted for him?
 
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ffive

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Question.

Would Ian's answers in "never have I ever" game be considered as canon?
Only your personal "canon" since they're enabled/disabled based on your playthrough and up to the player, so they'll differ between players. It's no more canon than making Ian get involved with some girl and not another in your playthrough.
 
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