VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[DarkLurker12]

He's a fetish, the whole black guy = BBC fetish thing is quite annoying. It's both racist against black people and plays into cuck shit I have no interest in. But yea, I love EK's work but my only real complaint is how black men are presented (by contrast, Cherry is very much a real person and one of the most drama free LI's).

Darn, I feared as much.

As much as Eva kiss seems to handle black people less stereotypically then most of the games on this site, I was hoping that she would take a character first fetish second approach. Like, giving options to play along with the fetish as Jeremy has or engaging with his authentic self and gettng him to drop the act a bit like Jack did in GGGB at least. (I know several black men that have been forced to play up the fetish in the dating world to mixed results.) I mean sure, its not the gold standard that was Dave, but I'm not so naive to expect any developer to give us a Dave-like with a BBC bonus in his pants to keep the fetish lovers happy.

So what are the current endgame options being hinted for him?

 

[Fellas]

Question.

Would Ian's answers in "never have I ever" game be considered as canon?

 

[ffive]

Question.

Would Ian's answers in "never have I ever" game be considered as canon?

Only your personal "canon" since they're enabled/disabled based on your playthrough and up to the player, so they'll differ between players. It's no more canon than making Ian get involved with some girl and not another in your playthrough.

 

[Gicoo]

So what are the current endgame options being hinted for him?

If you ignore Alison, she may end up staying with him for a lack of other options. Especially if he knocks her up and he decides to take some responsibility.
If Ian goes for Alison, but invites Jeremy to threesomes, he may knock her up anyways.

With Louise, he usually breaks up, but if Lena mingles, he may be with her longer, though Lena is likely stealing him.

Lena can fuck him casual and go full BBC fetish, she can share him with Louise and Ivy, or monopolize him. Even a first heart option could be chosen, likely for her to get more devoted to him in the end.

With Ivy, Lena and Ian encourage it. My guess is either Ivy is disappointed/ found him okayish or she goes BBC crazy, depends on Eva.

Finally we have casual with Emma, which is likely similar to Alison. Also more potential for threesomes with Ian, since Jeremy only gets Emma if Ian fucks her as well.

 

[Andrea9999]

Stan was already in a really good spot for that though. The rework specifically made him an incel and even more of a loser to start. He was originally much more like Holly; a low confidence, nerdy character that the foundation was being laid for a glow up in the same way that Holly has been receiving. The conflict between him and Louise was much more subdued, and Louise thought of him as more of a slob than an outright creep. I forget if it was a life drawing event or a concert, but Lena could invite Stan and when he showed up with a fedora and a trench coat she said she would work with him on it after he said he thought he looked cool.

What? Lena can give him a chance and kiss him. Following that plotline, he shapes up and they end up fucking.

I've said this many times before, Stan's rework was a net negative in my opinion. Perhaps others like incel Stan more, but I found him much more interesting in that early development phase. It felt like he had way more possibility as a character then, than he does now. Perhaps if Lena is on Stan's romantic path a lot of those possibilities could still manifest. But the other interesting aspect of Stan's early character was that it felt like Lena could still help Stan, as a friend, without having to be a romantic interest.

So sad to hear stan never get chance to have sex with lena

Patreon users wanted another good romance choice for Lena besides Ian. EvaKiss tried to redo Stan in such a way.
I personally try to be respectful to Stan as Lena, but I would never let him touch my girl...

I am really confused by these posts and a number of others above. I have only seen a celibate Stan who (with Lena nice to him) does photo shoots with Lena, the second in which Lena has him masturbate to her poses. (Actually, I think that was the hottest scene in the game after the two Seymour scenes.)
Has Stan been retooled recently (if so , in which revision)? The above orange texts suggest so.

 

[ffive]

Has Stan been retooled recently (if so , in which revision)? The above orange texts suggest so.

It's not recent, really. Stan offering his sword to Lena who has been nice to him, and Lena potentially not shooting him down but giving him a chance down the road, was a part of the game added in previous chapter(s).

 

[Blurpee69]

I am really confused by these posts and a number of others above. I have only seen a celibate Stan who (with Lena nice to him) does photo shoots with Lena, the second in which Lena has him masturbate to her poses. (Actually, I think that was the hottest scene in the game after the two Seymour scenes.)
Has Stan been retooled recently (if so , in which revision)? The above orange texts suggest so.

Stan hasn't been reworked recently. When I say old Stan I'm usually refering to how he was written around chapter 6's release. I think he got reworked shortly there after, I don't remember if it was chapter 7 or 8's release, and almost every scene of his was rewritten, his sprite and outfit also changed dramatically too. So it's definitely been awhile for what I'm referring too.

 

[Andrea9999]

It's not recent, really. Stan offering his sword to Lena who has been nice to him, and Lena potentially not shooting him down but giving him a chance down the road, was a part of the game added in previous chapter(s).

Stan hasn't been reworked recently. When I say old Stan I'm usually refering to how he was written around chapter 6's release. I think he got reworked shortly there after, I don't remember if it was chapter 7 or 8's release, and almost every scene of his was rewritten, his sprite and outfit also changed dramatically too. So it's definitely been awhile for what I'm referring too.

Thank you. I saw the (awkward) sword offering scene. I think I began the game at either the chapter 10 or mid 11 release. There were references in recent earlier posts here that Lena and Stan "allegedly had sex" that had me perplexed...perhaps I am misinterpreting.

 

[varpep]

Ian trying to channel his inner Homelander there lol

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[Xupuzulla]

Ian trying to channel his inner Homelander there lol

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Lilbro thinks hes badass

 

[Da¥e]

Lilbro thinks hes badass

That's one of my favourite scenes now actually. Not so much because of the punishing, but Ian acknowledging his love for slutty Lena.

 

[varpep]

Why would he even get this mad lol
Did he get cucked or smth

Yeah. He wants to punish his whore of a GF

 

[lucadiadis]

Lena x Stan - Its been dragging for so long, its clear the dev isnt particulary interested in it, good luck i guess

If you scrutinize the development of this game over the years, not even carefully, you will notice that ALL paths in this game have been dragging for SOOO long.

 

[lucadiadis]

Lena has him masturbate to her poses. (Actually, I think that was the hottest scene in the game after the two Seymour scenes.)

 

[swiver]

I haven't really played Stan scenes/dialogues since he was reworked. From the brief moments where he appears in my current plays I'm not noticing the incel-y bit. What characteristics/actions we meaning here?

By having him deliver the toxic, pathetic, incel confession.

Still insane that there are no decent men in this game aside generic Ian. Guess Eva doubled down on all the assholes (which are fine to an extent and with good guys to counteract). Even Ian can be a asshole chad.

Man, I miss Dave, the legend.

Meh I think Dave is the only LI I didn't have any interest in playing, save for the stealing/seducing bit which I wanted to see the build up to. I see the point though though I wouldn't completely agree as several happy endings make the guys/gals of LI quite wholesome, even those that start out preverse. One that doesn't have to be perverse at all is the boss character what's his face where she works for a company, I first played him before checking the gallery, and it was quite vanilla up to marriage. I was quite surprised there was a very whore/sugar-daddy route. It was quite confusing as well because I couldn't reconcile the character in the two playthroughs, like it wasn't just a different interaction and result with the same person, rather a different story with a different character altogether..

Darn, I feared as much.

As much as Eva kiss seems to handle black people less stereotypically then most of the games on this site, I was hoping that she would take a character first fetish second approach. Like, giving options to play along with the fetish as Jeremy has or engaging with his authentic self and gettng him to drop the act a bit like Jack did in GGGB at least. (I know several black men that have been forced to play up the fetish in the dating world to mixed results.) I mean sure, its not the gold standard that was Dave, but I'm not so naive to expect any developer to give us a Dave-like with a BBC bonus in his pants to keep the fetish lovers happy.

So what are the current endgame options being hinted for him?

I mean, Jeremy is still a normal dude in the game.. as character he's not a racial stereotype at all. The problem is as a LI of Lena he's a fetish. I think in the Alison sharing route from Ian's perspective he's less of that, like just a fellow horny guy who happens to have a larger penis which is not a point of focus unless Ian is being insecure..

 

[Xupuzulla]

Is obvious EK hates Stan,nasty dick Robert gets to fuck Holly and Stan cant even get a pity blowjob?
I wonder what is the deal of Evakiss and Robert,one of the most deranged decisions made over a very unpopular character.

 

[Da¥e]

Is obvious EK hates Stan,nasty dick Robert gets to fuck Holly and Stan cant even get a pity blowjob?
I wonder what is the deal of Evakiss and Robert,one of the most deranged decisions made over a very unpopular character.

I find it funny that in certain playthroughs Roberts gets to fuck Lena and Holly and Ian doesn't get any pussy.

 

[Andrea9999]

Is obvious EK hates Stan,nasty dick Robert gets to fuck Holly and Stan cant even get a pity blowjob?
I wonder what is the deal of Evakiss and Robert,one of the most deranged decisions made over a very unpopular character.

It is likely that Robert is a generous donor to EK through Patreon.

 

[varpep]

I know Jack is a character from GGGB but how is he as a potential LI for Lena? And is John a returning character from GGGB or an original one? He seems like a bland option for Lena but you never know. I'm not even sure if these characters are gonna be made into full fledged LI.

 

[Andrea9999]

I find it funny that in certain playthroughs Roberts gets to fuck Lena and Holly and Ian doesn't get any pussy.

How does Robert get to take Holly? (Might want to reply in a spoiler.) Thanks.