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Is there a way to stop Lena from cucking Ian with Wade? It seems unavoidable, if you let her cheat on Ian with someone else (Jeremy, in my playthrough of it). I don't really like Wade that much, and it just sort of happened without any input from me.
 
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Is there a way to stop Lena from cucking Ian with Wade? It seems unavoidable, if you let her cheat on Ian with someone else (Jeremy, in my playthrough of it). I don't really like Wade that much, and it just sort of happened without any input from me.
Ian has to reject Lena's idea of MMF. Otherwise just play as a committed couple then no cucking, no cheating, only fluffy romance.
 

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Is there a way to stop Lena from cucking Ian with Wade? It seems unavoidable, if you let her cheat on Ian with someone else (Jeremy, in my playthrough of it). I don't really like Wade that much, and it just sort of happened without any input from me.
Lena doesn't do anything with Wade beyond some public teasing. If even that little counts as "cucking", well. She'll also refrain from even teasing if you have her opt to stop cheating instead of deciding she wants to keep doing it. Any further developments with Wade are left for the player to decide.
 
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Speak for yourself, Hambre

Ian has to reject Lena's idea of MMF. Otherwise just play as a committed couple then no cucking, no cheating, only fluffy romance.
Yeah, I must have screwed up somewhere. I guess I did let her slide a bit too far into the sluttiness side. I did the Onlyfans thing, because I wasn't sure if this game had some sort of game over fail state for going broke, and I didn't want her to be in debt to the creepy older guys. Oh yeah, I let her bang Jack too, because he was my dude in "Good Girl Gone Bad".

Lena doesn't do anything with Wade beyond some public teasing. If even that little counts as "cucking", well. She'll also refrain from even teasing if you have her opt to stop cheating instead of deciding she wants to keep doing it. Anything other developments with Wade are left for the player to decide.
I might be misremembering some stuff (I was a little high while I was playing it), but back at the house, isn't it implied that Lena and Wade do something while Ian goes to bed? She straight up tells him to go to bed, even if I try to make him stick around to keep an eye on them.
 
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I might be misremembering some stuff (I was a little high while I was playing it), but back at the house, isn't it implied that Lena and Wade do something while Ian goes to bed? She straight up tells him to go to bed, even if I try to make him stick around to keep an eye on them.
Do you really think that Wade would immediately fuck his friend's girlfriend as soon as she offered, literally next door to his friend's room, despite being in relationship himself?

Lena tells Ian after she returns that she has talked with Wade about possible threesome, and that Wade said he would be up for it if he was single. There's little reason to think she'd be lying -- if Ian is on cuck path then Lena would have no reason to keep from him sexual stuff she's doing with other guys.
 

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Do you really think that Wade would immediately fuck his friend's girlfriend as soon as she offered, literally next door to his friend's room, despite being in relationship himself?

Lena tells Ian after she returns that she has talked with Wade about possible threesome, and that Wade said he would be up for it if he was single. There's little reason to think she'd be lying -- if Ian is on cuck path then Lena would have no reason to keep from him sexual stuff she's doing with other guys.
Fair enough, I did forget the discussion afterward. I've got a bad habit of playing a movie or a podcast or something in the background while I go through these VNs, just to keep my brain engaged while clicking through story beats that I don't care about but the game is still forcing you to engage with, and sometimes I get more into whatever I'm listening to than the game.
 
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Depending on how much drugs they are consuming, something could happen. I even had the suspicion that it could happen to Perry. :whistle: :unsure: :HideThePain:
Well, if something did happen then you could realistically expect Lena mention that in the later part of her side of the story. But when she comments/thinks about all her relationships and other events there's no mention about doing anything with Wade. So there's really no reason to insist there was anything.
 

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Technically, Lena is only a cheater if you as the player make her act this way. She can be fully faithful in exclusive relationship if you so choose. But as far as the others go, yeah.
Of the three he listed, only Cherry is a cheater, and it's... Kind of vague.

Lena is only a cheater I'd the player chooses for her to be a cheater.

Cindy is a cheater only if the player (as Ian) chooses to cheat with her, or doesn't do anything to help Wade and Cindy's relationship. Even if Ian doesn't get involved in the Cindy/Wade drama it's still unclear that she is cheating on Wade. All we have is a picture of a hand on a butt. Which isn't great optics, but not confirmed she's cheating.

And Cherry admits to ruining Lena and Axel's relationship. But it sounds like their threesome might have happened first and then there is some ambiguity on if Cherry actually knew how much damage that caused to Lena. Like she knew they were in a relationship, but maybe didn't know what kind of a relationship it was or if Lena was OK with Cherry and Axel getting together without Lena involved. That part of their past is still somewhat shrouded in mystery.
 
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And Cherry admits to ruining Lena and Axel's relationship. But it sounds like their threesome might have happened first and then there is some ambiguity on if Cherry actually knew how much damage that caused to Lena. Like she knew they were in a relationship, but maybe didn't know what kind of a relationship it was or if Lena was OK with Cherry and Axel getting together without Lena involved. That part of their past is still somewhat shrouded in mystery.
Lena mentions that Cherry was being friends with her while she fucked Axel behind her back, before the threesome. I really don't think Cherry was somehow unaware about the nature of relationship Lena and Axel had. When Cherry talks with Ian she makes it clear she understand and regrets she was doing shit thing to Lena. None of that "i didn't know their relationship was like that" apologism. :sneaky:
 
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Lena mentions that Cherry was being friends with her while she fucked Axel behind her back, before the threesome. I really don't think Cherry was somehow unaware about the nature of relationship Lena and Axel had. When Cherry talks with Ian she makes it clear she understand and regrets she was doing shit thing to Lena. None of that "i didn't know their relationship was like that" apologism. :sneaky:
Yes, but we're not really certain of the exact timeline. And that does sort of matter here in this instance. We don't know when Cherry realized what she was doing was hurting Lena, we don't know when Lena found out, or when her and Cherry became friends, when the threesome happened.

That's not me making a definitive statement that Cherry isn't a cheater, because she likely is. But there is enough ambiguity to make the argument she might not be.
 

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That's not me making a definitive statement that Cherry isn't a cheater, because she likely is. But there is enough ambiguity to make the argument she might not be.
There honestly isn't any ambiguity about it, Cherry explicitly admits she was doing shitty thing to Lena and she was doing it knowingly, because she prioritized her own feelings for Axel. She was willingly the girl Axel cheated on Lena with.

When Ian tries to run the same line by her, that she maybe didn't quite know what she was doing, she tells him point blank to stop huffing copium. :sneaky:
 

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Any info about when this game will be finished? I would love to play it but i don't like to wait every update
No. Currently on chapter 13. 16-20 chapters are planned. A chapter can take at least half a year. So at least 2 years, but 4 and more are quite likely, if the development speed doesn't change.
 
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No. Currently on chapter 13. 16-20 chapters are planned. A chapter can take at least half a year. So at least 2 years, but 4 and more are quite likely, if the development speed doesn't change.
Still so so much better than A Wife and Mother. I'm probably looking at another 2-4 years just for the next major Sam scene.
 
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So, just tested the beta, and on the Trinity path it is still possible for the Holly gloryhole scene to happen. Is anyone familiar with the discussions on Patreon or discord to know if this will be left in for the final?

Also, are there more than one path to reach the Holly Trinity? I thought it was date Lena, go on trip with Holly, kiss, but stop there, tell Lena, let Lena and Holly kiss, and then finalise it or something on the beach. But it seems on that old playthrough, because Ian and Holly weren't together, Holly hung out with Ivy? It's honestly hard to recall one particular playthroughs choices when there are multiple ones over the years.
 
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