VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[aAgabBer]

Can I suggest a threesome with Emma if I am in a relationship with Ian? Thanks.

 

[Xupuzulla]

It was. Then it was revised back to 20 when the patreons moaned about it. Then it was revised to "Ummmmmmmmm, oh look a birdie!"

I highly doubt is going to be 20 through,it will take many more years of development.
Time will tell i guess...

 

[Allan Trumbull]

Can I suggest a threesome with Emma if I am in a relationship with Ian? Thanks.

Playing on Android but on Seperate port. Check Android/ data folder I guess

 

[Hungover00]

EK should probably go back and expand the relationship talk when Ian and Lena decide on an 'open relationship' in the park. They never really define what that means, and it isn't the normal definition since Ian feels guilty about cheating. (the implication seems to be, even though it was never said, they might try threesomes. Is that accurate?)

Is the chapter 12 open relationship more clear in the boundaries or lack of them going forward?

 

[Hungover00]

Does anyone else get the issue when making a save that the phone shows up instead of the choices? Or just the image? Trying to figure out how to avoid it, it's annoying.

 

[bfc233]

Trinity is pretty boring . Just go for each and every girl who has a GF flag and make a separate save files for them.

I shall henceforth call this the Quantum Ian path.
Because we can only ever confirm the nature of his relationship status if we observe the save file.

 

[ffive]

EK should probably go back and expand the relationship talk when Ian and Lena decide on an 'open relationship' in the park. They never really define what that means, and it isn't the normal definition since Ian feels guilty about cheating. (the implication seems to be, even though it was never said, they might try threesomes. Is that accurate?)

Is the chapter 12 open relationship more clear in the boundaries or lack of them going forward?

When Ian and Lena talk in the park they only agree to "experiment together". It's not open relationship at that point, and "experimenting together" is clear enough that it doesn't involve fucking other people without your partner present. People simply read too much into the name of variable used to encode that state.

It is then potentially and explicitly redefined in Ch.12 as actual open relationship, if Ian either agrees to Lena's suggestion, or makes such request himself.

 

[SearingFive]

When Ian and Lena talk in the park they only agree to "experiment together". It's not open relationship at that point, and "experimenting together" is clear enough that it doesn't involve fucking other people without your partner present. People simply read too much into the name of variable used to encode that state.

It is then potentially and explicitly redefined in Ch.12 as actual open relationship, if Ian either agrees to Lena's suggestion, or makes such request himself.

Exactly! Ch.9 relationship status meant, experimenting with both of them involved. Ch.12 was "IDGAF, do whatever you want! I am going to have fun with or without you."

 

[Night Hacker]

Is this game finished? As in completed?

Not yet, but this dev has a history of finishing his games. "Good Girl Gone Bad" was the first of his me (and my wife) played and loved. It had multiple endings and was well done, but it was finished, so I fully expect this to be finished provided the dev's health improves. He's had a few issues lately, and I wish him all the best in that regard.

 

[Night Hacker]

>>>BEGIN RANT<<<
While I like this game for the most part, when examining the walkthrough (PDF version) and the variables required to achieve certain outcomes, it is INSANE! For example, I was interested in a Lena, Ian, Holly threesome, so I started to backtrack what I would need to do and not do, in order to achieve that and I was amazed at the stupid things you would have to avoid and do to achieve this. If Lena sleeps with Axel... forget it. If Ian sleeps with Minerva, forget it. And I'm still not sure how you get to this point as if you have any sort of relationship with Lena, Holly avoids you and Lena feels perpetually guilty about even kissing Holly, though she had ZERO problems fucking Ian's "friend" Jeremy multiple times but... don't kiss Holly. In the past I slept with Holly which caused problems with your relationship with Lena... so I am like... how in the flying fuck are you supposed to get to the point of a threesome between all of them?!

I may do some serious backtracking through the variables in the game to see what exactly you have to do, but this is REALLY messed up. How Minerva plays a part when NOBODY KNOWS IAN IS SLEEPING WITH HER is beyond my comprehension, or how ANYONE knows that Lena slept with Axel?! Yet in my current playthrough (which is basically, everyone's a whore, LOL) somehow, Jeremy knows that Lena slept with Axel even though niether Lena nor Axel told anyone, and I still don't see the logic on how that remotely effects a threesome with Ian, Lena and Holly, if anything it makes her more open to doing anyone and everyone.

In other areas...if Ian is a cuck (which I went for just to avoid the stupid jealousy garbage), he STILL gets jealous!!! I'm like, what the actual fuck?! I really dislike the cuck thing, at least the way this game does it, but I hate jealousy more.

I don't know... I am to a point where I may just finish my current playthrough and call it a day. Move on to games which make more sense. This is seriously convoluted and overly complicated. I MUCH prefer GGGB.
>>>END RANT<<<

 

[Night Hacker]

i would be simple if ian and lena are open couple

The game does seem to be leaning in that direction. Bit I am very annoyed that it still treats them as an exclusive couple even though, at least by my route, Lena rejects Ian as her boyfriend and they are basically just friends with benefits, yet the game STILL treats them as if they are a couple, especially in the Lena + Holly + Ian department and it drives me up the wall. If Ian is being cucked, he gets jealous. If he is not a cuck, he gets jealous. When presented with Holly's feelings to Lena, a threesome is rejected for various, convoluted reasons even though they are NOT a couple.

I think the dev messed up in this way. It is getting seriously annoying to try and follow all the convoluted reasoning in this game and where in the past I had many different paths I had saved, now, I just want to get through the update and move on to something else as this is getting WAY too frustrating to navigate, especially with P-P-Perry and his stupid dialog.

 

[ffive]

I may do some serious backtracking through the variables in the game to see what exactly you have to do, but this is REALLY messed up. How Minerva plays a part when NOBODY KNOWS IAN IS SLEEPING WITH HER is beyond my comprehension, or how ANYONE knows that Lena slept with Axel?! Yet in my current playthrough (which is basically, everyone's a whore, LOL) somehow, Jeremy knows that Lena slept with Axel even though niether Lena nor Axel told anyone, and I still don't see the logic on how that remotely effects a threesome with Ian, Lena and Holly, if anything it makes her more open to doing anyone and everyone.

Jeremy only knows if Lena fucked Axel if she does it at the club where he works. His co-worker Marcel catches you there literally in middle of the act with Axel's cock up your Lena's snatch. Guess what, people gossip with co-workers.

As for the throuple, it's not just some sort of casual threesome. This path is for Lena and Ian who love each other (and both have feelings for Holly) and don't get distracted by hookups with other people. If either Ian or Lena sleeps around with other people or especially if they develop feelings for other people, like Lena can with Axel if you choose for her to sleep with him repeatedly, then they lack feelings/commitment for this "pure" throuple.

It's not exactly rocket science, when both protagonists repeatedly spell out their thoughts on the matter in their internal monologues.

 

[Gicoo]

Always indicating of porn rot when people complain about not getting characters in a relationship, when they have these characters sleep with other characters beforehand. Sure, in most porn games the MC can fuck everyone and rarely gets repercussions, its ignored or leads to harem, because as we all now, people in RL love to be shared.

EvaKiss games have a huge emphasis on repercussions, even a minor decision much earlier can be adressed.

You want Ian, Lena and Holly in a throuple? The easiest way to do so is have the three of them not sleep with anybody else. That it is possible to have them fuck some other people for some time, is a bonus if anything.

The throuple is fairly wholesome and on the romantic side, so its obvious that it is less likely to be formed if the three participants fuck around a lot. Ian and Lena are also very careful around Holly. Ian won't even commit to Holly if he is sleeping with someone else.

 

[ffive]

i don't understand if ian/lena/holly can't sleep with other people?

Generally, not if your goal is for these three to get into what's a three-way exclusive relationship with each other. Which is what the "Holly trinity" is in this game.

If you don't care about forming this throuple then Ian, Lena and Holly can fuck around (and find out) all they want.

 

[Blurpee69]

It's not exactly rocket science, when both protagonists repeatedly spell out their thoughts on the matter in their internal monologues.

Yeah but then I have to read and stuff. Where's the fun in that? Just CTRL and Go baby!

 

[Hungover00]

When Ian and Lena talk in the park they only agree to "experiment together". It's not open relationship at that point, and "experimenting together" is clear enough that it doesn't involve fucking other people without your partner present. People simply read too much into the name of variable used to encode that state.

It is then potentially and explicitly redefined in Ch.12 as actual open relationship, if Ian either agrees to Lena's suggestion, or makes such request himself.

That still seems pretty vague to me, as it could be interpreted literally, 'only have new sex while both of us are present' (which Lena almost certainly breaks to be able to offer up Louise), or figuratively, 'you can experiment, but we are together, ie. primary partners.' Which is what it sounds like at the time, and if it isn't supposed to be that, 1-2 extra lines to talk about boundaries would have been nice. Because if it is only 'new sex while we are both present' they never actually say examples or how that may come around. Swingers club? Not mentioned. Threesomes? Comes up much later than that conversation.

My point is, it's such an easy fix, why wouldn't you make it clearer? Unless the point is that they have bad communication and don't set it up well, inviting more pain on themselves, but the game doesn't narrate it that way.

 

[Night Hacker]

That still seems pretty vague to me, as it could be interpreted literally, 'only have new sex while both of us are present' (which Lena almost certainly breaks to be able to offer up Louise), or figuratively, 'you can experiment, but we are together, ie. primary partners.' Which is what it sounds like at the time, and if it isn't supposed to be that, 1-2 extra lines to talk about boundaries would have been nice. Because if it is only 'new sex while we are both present' they never actually say examples or how that may come around. Swingers club? Not mentioned. Threesomes? Comes up much later than that conversation.

My point is, it's such an easy fix, why wouldn't you make it clearer? Unless the point is that they have bad communication and don't set it up well, inviting more pain on themselves, but the game doesn't narrate it that way.

Every time someone else starts to refer to them as an exclusive couple, they always respond with "no, it's not like that", indicating they are not. So any excuse which states they are, it just bullshit.

Anyhow, I'll probably get through this playthrough as fast as possible and move on to something else as this game is getting beyond annoying.

 

[NewSeal]

I highly doubt is going to be 20 through,it will take many more years of development.
Time will tell i guess...

In the first years of development, we'd get 2~3 chapters per year, nowadays we're down to 2~3 chapter updates per year. If the game does indeed go on to have 20 chapters (unlikely) with this current development pace, we'll only be seeing the final, completed version in the late 2020s.

So yeah either Eva locks in with her development process or reduces the amount of chapters, otherwise we'll only be having discussions about the full product during the 2032 Australia Olympics.

 

[Hungover00]

Every time someone else starts to refer to them as an exclusive couple, they always respond with "no, it's not like that", indicating they are not. So any excuse which states they are, it just bullshit.

Anyhow, I'll probably get through this playthrough as fast as possible and move on to something else as this game is getting beyond annoying.

I'm still a fan. Shame it's about 1-1.5 chapters a year.

Actually just went from a park open relationship, had Ian hook up with Cindy and Allison (first time, at her folks place), decide he wants it all, had Lena fuck Jack (no other 'cheating'), then decide to commit to the relationship, then Ian called for an open relationship without ever being caught (just kissed Cindy at first).

The pathing gets super convoluted and weird at this stage though. I think because Lena sat on Ian's face once, that opens up the cuck path? Not super cuck, but more feet stuff and teasing happens for some reason. But he's still dominant to her, so I guess it's Schrodinger's Dom.

Interestingly enough, Lena doesn't take the opportunity to talk to John, even after the relationship is open, but will fuck the hell out of Emma (one that's kinda sorta with Perry).

 

[Xupuzulla]

In the first years of development, we'd get 2~3 chapters per year, nowadays we're down to 2~3 chapter updates per year. If the game does indeed go on to have 20 chapters (unlikely) with this current development pace, we'll only be seeing the final, completed version in the late 2020s.

So yeah either Eva locks in with her development process or reduces the amount of chapters, otherwise we'll only be having discussions about the full product during the 2032 Australia Olympics.

Yeah.
I think the only reason she backtracked about the 16 chapters is because the patreons cried about it
I think is going to be 16-18 chapters and 18 is even a stretch...