VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

I mean, it's ultimately a porn game and any weak complaints about possible lack of realism how a scene comes about aren't going to survive confrontation with "see Lena honestly romancing Stan". If that could come to pass, so can Lena/Cindy.

I think Louise getting ready to jump Ian after a single compliment displayed that nothing is really off limits. Yes, Louise is a little attention-whore, she's of course a different unit compared to Cindy, it's no surprise with her at the end of the day. But narratively it wouldn't have hurt for her and Ian to require a bit more than a single bump in approval to be able to jump straight to sexting, and if sexual developments can happen spontaneously with one pairing they can with another as well.

In summary, Cindy and Lena don't know each other to justify a romance. Lena only sees her as a proxy to Axel, Cindy only as a proxy to modelling.

Lena and Emma didn't know each other to justify anything either at one point, it has still come about. If Lena isn't receptive to Louise she doesn't monologue about being attracted to her, neither does she with Holly if nothing sexual is ever really initiated with her, they're just friends. Lena doesn't consider Eli's attractiveness either unless you choose to flirt with her.

That an opportunity with Cindy has not yet presented itself is not the same as one will never come. Whether one will come is of course up to Eva at the end of the day and I wouldn't be surprised if it indeed never comes about either. I just don't think it should be entirely rejected just because of a silly little thing like their history

 

[Hungover00]

I think Louise getting ready to jump Ian after a single compliment displayed that nothing is really off limits. Yes, Louise is a little attention-whore, she's of course a different unit compared to Cindy, it's no surprise with her at the end of the day. But narratively it wouldn't have hurt for her and Ian to require a bit more than a single bump in approval to be able to jump straight to sexting, and if sexual developments can happen spontaneously with one pairing they can with another as well.


Lena and Emma didn't know each other to justify anything either at one point, it has still come about. If Lena isn't receptive to Louise she doesn't monologue about being attracted to her, neither does she with Holly if nothing sexual is ever really initiated with her, they're just friends. Lena doesn't consider Eli's attractiveness either unless you choose to flirt with her.

That an opportunity with Cindy has not yet presented itself is not the same as one will never come. Whether one will come is of course up to Eva at the end of the day and I wouldn't be surprised if it indeed never comes about either. I just don't think it should be entirely rejected just because of a silly little thing like their history

I didn't realise Louise would simp over Ian without the threesome. Do you just have to be nice to her at the Fortress show? Damn, girl is thirsty.

Lena and Emma has been telegraphed for many chapters, she's closer to her than anyone else in the friend group.

It's not that Lena/Cindy is impossible, it just doesn't have any textual support yet, and that's 13 chapters in. EK has to either start laying the groundwork fast, pull it out of their ass, or not have it happen.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Eloquent rebuttal!

not fan of long arguments lol people will stand to their opinion.Whatever i think cindy+lena+ian can be hot. Fuck axel,soon or later cindy will realist he is just a player.She can count on ian to open her eyes lol why people think all blonde are dumb.

sorry for using the f-words lol

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Lena is cindy's competition, for both axle and Ian they ain't about to start scissoring no matter how much the players might want it

 

[BlandChili]

I didn't realise Louise would simp over Ian without the threesome. Do you just have to be nice to her at the Fortress show? Damn, girl is thirsty.

Yeah exactly, Ian just had to give her that compliment and she'll text him at the beach house. It's of course up to Ian to respond, but so far I've only ever played him with the "it's free real estate" meme on his mind when she pops up in his dms.

Lena and Emma has been telegraphed for many chapters, she's closer to her than anyone else in the friend group.

Absolutely, I only see that as an argument for Lena/Cindy being a possibility however. It just requires scenes setting them up, something that could easily come about if they begin to intersect more for example through modelling. It's just up to Eva to decide to go in that direction of course.

It's not that Lena/Cindy is impossible, it just doesn't have any textual support yet, and that's 13 chapters in. EK has to either start laying the groundwork fast, pull it out of their ass, or not have it happen.

I think they have the bones to build upon though, the drama with Axel, but more importantly; their intersecting professional potential, is a solid base to start from. Like I said, it's just a open question about "if" and only Eva can answer that.

Lena is cindy's competition, for both axle and Ian they ain't about to start scissoring no matter how much the players might want it

Hey now, Perry pointed out what a dream-boat Axel is, Ian just has to realise his bro is right!

 

[Eleanorduval]

Yeah exactly, Ian just had to give her that compliment and she'll text him at the beach house. It's of course up to Ian to respond, but so far I've only ever played him with the "it's free real estate" meme on his mind when she pops up in his dms.

Absolutely, I only see that as an argument for Lena/Cindy being a possibility however. It just requires scenes setting them up, something that could easily come about if they begin to intersect more for example through modelling. It's just up to Eva to decide to go in that direction of course.

I think they have the bones to build upon though, the drama with Axel, but more importantly; their intersecting professional potential, is a solid base to start from. Like I said, it's just a open question about "if" and only Eva can answer that.

Hey now, Perry pointed out what a dream-boat Axel is, Ian just has to realise his bro is right!

i think it is possible as eva give a multiple paths before: louis/lena lena/holly. I didn't play all the games,so i dunno if there other alternative than the 2 i mention it.Is there a lena/emma scene? the only impossible paths is lena/cherry or lena/gillian

 

[Eleanorduval]

Lena is cindy's competition, for both axle and Ian they ain't about to start scissoring no matter how much the players might want it

In competiton for what? a lot of people are in competiton and respect each other.Cindy admire lena,she want to be like.Remenber the text when she was with ian in the musuem

 

[Gicoo]

Lena and Emma didn't know each other to justify anything either at one point, it has still come about.

Emma sells Lenas guitar, which sparkles her past love for the craft and starts the entire music path. That is a very positive introduction. Emma is also easy to talk to and very likable overall. Lena sympatises with her plight, since she also struggles with getting a job, paying her rent and worrying about less rich people like Molly and Ed losing they business. Emma is also open about her sexuality and her desires, so the opportunity for the two of them to mingle is also higher.

Nothing of this applies to Cindy, she and Lena are at best polite to each other. Recall all scenes Cindy reacts to Lena. She is popular? The guys have no taste. She is modelling? She better tell Cindy everything so that Cindy can become famous. She sings? She probably sucks and the guys are just simping for her. Meanwhile, Emma adores Lena, finds her hot, kind, talented, shares her worries about the state of the city etc.

 

[BlandChili]

Emma sells Lenas guitar, which sparkles her past love for the craft and starts the entire music path. That is a very positive introduction. Emma is also easy to talk to and very likable overall. Lena sympatises with her plight, since she also struggles with getting a job, paying her rent and worrying about less rich people like Molly and Ed losing they business. Emma is also open about her sexuality and her desires, so the opportunity for the two of them to mingle is also higher.

Nothing of this applies to Cindy, she and Lena are at best polite to each other. Recall all scenes Cindy reacts to Lena. She is popular? The guys have no taste. She is modelling? She better tell Cindy everything so that Cindy can become famous. She sings? She probably sucks and the guys are just simping for her. Meanwhile, Emma adores Lena, finds her hot, kind, talented, shares her worries about the state of the city etc.

Yeah, so presumably if anything between Lena and Cindy were to occur it stands to reason that either something positive needs to be built first, or Eva could structure an intense rivalry between them, which could potentially turn sexual as well.

Like I said, the lack of this content being present isn't the same as it never coming about. I think it's perfectly reasonable to doubt that it ever will come about too, I just personally think the chance of this is at least better than 0...
And I think it's more fun to hope that it does come about, but that's just because it's a pairing I'm into.

 

[ffive]

Emma is also easy to talk to and very likable overall. Lena sympatises with her plight, since she also struggles with getting a job, paying her rent and worrying about less rich people like Molly and Ed losing they business.

Lena and Emma can easily be at each other's throats over their respective attitudes towards Seymour and life in general. It largely hinges on Lena's posh variable.

 

[Hungover00]

Yeah, so presumably if anything between Lena and Cindy were to occur it stands to reason that either something positive needs to be built first, or Eva could structure an intense rivalry between them, which could potentially turn sexual as well.

Like I said, the lack of this content being present isn't the same as it never coming about. I think it's perfectly reasonable to doubt that it ever will come about too, I just personally think the chance of this is at least better than 0...
And I think it's more fun to hope that it does come about, but that's just because it's a pairing I'm into.

I don't think anyone is really disagreeing with you. The consensus is that it isn't there now, not that it is inherently impossible. Things would have to change for it to be feasible.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I don't think anyone is really disagreeing with you. The consensus is that it isn't there now, not that it is inherently impossible. Things would have to change for it to be feasible.

the sexual attraction is already here,but they don't know it yet. Cindy admired lena model picture. They share same passion,the same boy (ian).They are similare in a lot point

 

[Hungover00]

the sexual attraction is already here,but they don't know it yet. Cindy admired lena model picture. They share same passion,the same boy (ian).They are similare in a lot point

I don't think recognising someone else is attractive is the same as sexual attraction. In this case it's more respect for a worthy adversary.

That could change though. Enemies to lovers is a trope. The story just hasn't done any of the 'to' part to justify lovers anytime soon. But there's a handful of chapters left to go, and it could happen. Just seems thin to me.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

In competiton for what? a lot of people are in competiton and respect each other.Cindy admire lena,she want to be like.Remenber the text when she was with ian in the musuem

Yea... no. Cindy wanted what Lena had at the museum. Now that Cindy has access to that modeling lifestyle, she clearly doesn't respect or even have time for Lena.

 

[Gicoo]

Lena and Emma can easily be at each other's throats over their respective attitudes towards Seymour and life in general. It largely hinges on Lena's posh variable.

Sure, I focused on the path in which they end up having a relationship, since this was the route BlandChili contested about being just as unplausible as the potential Cindy one.

Not that I'm arguing that it can't exist, I merely point out that there are currently no grounds for that.

Regarding Ian/Louise being rushed as well: I agree and if the potential Cindy/Lena is introduced just as rushed, I will criticise it just as much.


Ian/Louise makes largely more sense if it would be a consequence of the threesome and Louise believing Ian was into her (which he was to an extent, considering he fucked her ). I suspect Louise got desperate at home: Her relationship with Jeremy was either long over or she correctly suspected Jeremy would leave her for Lena and finally understood that he didn't take the relationship seriously. Hence she reached out to the only decent available man who is charismatic and complimented her. But thats just that, my suspicion, the game didn't conveyed any of it, so Louise making an aggressive move on Ian with little context is highly questionable, especially if he is with her friend Lena.

 

[BlandChili]

Hehe, I kinda appreciated that tiny blush Cindy had after witnessing Lena sing. If nothing else it was nice to have a reaction out of her like that, even if it isn't ultimately sexual.

I'll just say as a woman with a preference for women that indicators of attraction between women are often downplayed in media. I don't think that necessarily applies to ORS, but that's just because we get Lena's monologues served freely, so when she is actually attracted to someone and realises it we know for sure.

I'd have loved for Lena to "appreciate" female traits more widely though. Even if nothing sexual would ever develop between them, recognising Alison or Nat (if they ever meet) or Jess as women she could be attracted to would just be a nice thing to have. Lena is supposed to be bisexual but our ability to express this is only applied every so often.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Hehe, I kinda appreciated that tiny blush Cindy had after witnessing Lena sing. If nothing else it was nice to have a reaction out of her like that, even if it isn't ultimately sexual.

I'll just say as a woman with a preference for women that indicators of attraction between women are often downplayed in media. I don't think that necessarily applies to ORS, but that's just because we get Lena's monologues served freely, so when she is actually attracted to someone and realises it we know for sure.

I'd have loved for Lena to "appreciate" female traits more widely though. Even if nothing sexual would ever develop between them, recognising Alison or Nat (if they ever meet) or Jess as women she could be attracted to would just be a nice thing to have. Lena is supposed to be bisexual but our ability to express this is only very applied every so often.

who is nat? a new girl in last update?

 

[BlandChili]

who is nat? a new girl in last update?

Nah, she's the GGGB cameo who works at Ian's new job together with Clark.

She has a nude sprite in the files and I think a page in the gallery, so the assumption is that she'll have content. More likely with Ian or Clark than Lena, though she was bi in GGGB and presumably still is in ORS.

 

[ffive]

More likely with Ian or Clark

Or both! It's kind of Nat's thing, after all.

 

[BlandChili]

Or both! It's kind of Nat's thing, after all.

Indeed. Splayed out over a desk in the office, with a guy at either end going at his own hole, is probably not a first for her!