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Gicoo
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As you said, we can only speculate.
Gillian did invite Ian for a coffee and added him on instagram, with her account having no pictures of her boyfriend. Not a subtle hint for him that she may be available, just reaching out for him for pure friendship would be a wasted plotline. If the boyfriend is Mike, then he is cheating her. If not with Lena, at the very least with Ivy. So that could be an additional motive that she is already considering to get back to Ian.
She couldn't have control over getting a job in the same place as Ian, this is a coincidence that fits the narrative of the Red String, with people surrounding Ian and Lena coming together by fate. Another argument that she can play a larger role in the game, especially if she is with Mike, who is a character from Lenas side, while she is one of Ians.
As funny as it would be to affirm cuck Ians nightmares of her fucking others in front of him, its questionable if she is that wild in reality and if it isn't just his insecurity nurturing his cuck fetish, with Lena being the only woman who can take full advantage of it. Gillian seems authentic enough that she is sorry and she was with Ian for years, so we can also rule out that she doesn't feel anything for him. Else they wouldn't be together for years in a happy relationship (which was pointed out by others).
Still, Ian can react very different towards her, so there may be multiple routes. Perhaps one where he is clingy and she realizes it and can take advantage of it, maybe one where he is more confident and they treat each other as equals. Or chad Ian getting revenge on her. The most likeliest is a reconciliation in which we get both characters perspective on the breakup. Because we were never told what exactly happened either from Gillians PoV and not even Ian's PoV, so obviously this plot thread can be adressed sooner or later, instead of being a mystery forever.
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You didn't really ask if it was after weed?
Am I weird because I immediately realized that it's an “easter egg” and not a bug? I would really be interested in an honest survey.
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SearingFive
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On this note, i'm a little surprised there wasn't any Lena/Mike content in both Ch.12 and 13 so far. Even if they didn't sleep together Lena has potentially the music collab with him lined up, so you'd expect at leasts some texts regarding that... but there's literally nothing.
Maybe Gillian has found out he's been cheating on her and decided to resolve the matter... permanently.
Gicoo
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Didn't Mike called Lena out after she was mad for him fucking Ivy? So now the two have some "break", ignoring that they don't have an official relationship, with Mike being taken.On this note, i'm a little surprised there wasn't any Lena/Mike content in both Ch.12 and 13 so far. Even if they didn't sleep together Lena has potentially the music collab with him lined up, so you'd expect at leasts some texts regarding that... but there's literally nothing.
Maybe Gillian has found out he's been cheating on her and decided to resolve the matter... permanently.
SearingFive
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FFive's talking about the non-relationship path with Mike. Where he asks Lena to collab with him. For Mike/Lena relationship path it makes sense.
Gicoo
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He always asks for a collab, thats independent from the romance/fuck path.
So the collab is happening either way as long as Lena agrees. The question was why there wasn't content before it and my assumption is that Lena and Mike are currently not into it after the Ivy mess.
SearingFive
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I don't think Lena gives a rats ass about Mike's relationship if she is not with him romantically. She even says it in her monologue that it's not her problem or concern but eh..it doesn't matter Mike got sidelined for a reason. Pretty sure he will be popping up more in MMA and after Billy's arc.
I don't have Lena fucking Mike in my playthrough so i wouldn't know, but it doesn't really explain complete lack of contact if they agreed to have the music thing going and didn't have a fight over Ivy. But as it is, he's only very briefly mentioned that Lena "hasn't heard from him for a few days and that's for the best" if they had a fight. And offhand mention as possible candidate for MMF threesome.
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I don't know what is the term called when things are introduced in plot, but later either not explored (forgotten/abandoned) or changing trajectory (bait and switch?), but I have noticed it increasing within ORS unfortunately. I'm reaching a point where I hope this gets wrapped up no matter how shitty ending and Eva Kiss starts new project with rejuvenated passion/creativity. Am I just an asshole? I dunno. "Big Dogs" in the industry have left me quite disappointed lately...
From the sounds of that status update. Ian will be having his second bout while Lena is out doing Billy's thing. It will depend on how the events line up timewise, but it sounded like both events were happening next chapter.
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But in this case they aren't close to begin with, so why would he constantly text her every week that he is looking towards the collab? He texted her even once about it after she agreed to it. I don't see a strong need for Mike to communicate with her regularly if she isn't on his path, doesn't seem to be in-character to be as communicative and talkative either.
I also suspect Eva is a bit burned out of it, since five years is a good chunk of your life and creative artists usually want to explore other and new areas. Unless the cynicsm wins and its just milking this game for retarded patreons who effectively want to consoom this game forever and dictate its course through payment. Some plotlines stall, some have run its course, some need to find they end. Its currently the middle section of the story, which is usually the hardest to get around. You may not want to rush to the end and reward and have to keep the MCs busy somehow.
I'm not too excited about the open relationship and swinging paths, when the game will become a fuckfest and everyone fucks everyone without any emotion behind it. While moving out can open up many routes due to the many partners, I hope its just an epilogue thing, so the game doesn't drag out even further by branching it in several flats and new roommates Ian and Lena can share. So yeah, wrap it up and have it end rather in chapter 16 than chapter 20. Should the game end in 1,5 years or another 5 years? I hope Eva goes for the former.
Not constantly texting the same thing, but there being some progress on that path. Like maybe Lena texting him this time with her feedback on what he'd sent her. Or Lena spending some time on this project in her spare time instead of just running off for another round of shopping.
It just feels a bit too much like another Robert thing, who falls off the face of Earth until Lena wants to scratch an itch and is looking for a dick. Which is fine in case of Robert, but a little disappointing when the game seemed to have Lena/Mike as more than just that.
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To be completely honest I get the feeling Eva is struggling with how to structure Lena's story material outside of Seymour.
The way Ian randomly got a major update after Lena barely had any story progression after the beach house, thrown in right when Lena was actually going to go do something that wasn't optional. But also how her StalkFap content barely progressed in terms of perversion, and how a lot of time seems to pass between new events such as this Mike thing and whatever independent modelling efforts she might get to attempt. Add to that, that recently things at the cafe develop more in regards to Perry instead of Lena, a detail Ian influences rather than her, and there isn't a lot left for her besides litteral sex to fill out content with.
The bigger problem is the lack of content for defying Seymour. Going against Seymour isn't just a "eww, old man, hard pass" choice, its supposed to be a whole statement about how Lena won't sell out and then Seymour showing his true colors trying to fuck with her life and then...she doesn't really do anything?
Considering we got a Lena x Emma scene, couldn't that have been tied into a larger event where Lena starts getting involved with Emma's political activism or helping out in that old movie theater they are repurposing? We also still have that whole Charles the bum silver bullet against Seymour, I know EK is probably saving it for a larger event but I wouldn't have minded seeing that side of the plot developed some more if Lena is opposing Seymour.