Gicoo

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How did Holly manage to get away for the beach house vacation from her parents? I imagine it was a bit of a fight to go to her author events, but a mixed house vacation with no chaperone? That doesn't sound like the overbearing Fundies that her parents sound like.
They can only control Holly while she is in their home. Which is understandable to an extent: You live at someone, you have to do so under their rules. Disagree with it? Simple, just move out, no one if forcing you.

So Holly isn't allowed to do anything in her home, but at work, in her free time, at bookfairs, at vacations? The parents are neither there nor have they a justification to be there.

While Holly is treated as a child, its entirely on Holly to emancipate herself from them. So I wasn't that astonished at her getting home arrest.
 

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They can only control Holly while she is in their home. Which is understandable to an extent: You live at someone, you have to do so under their rules. Disagree with it? Simple, just move out, no one if forcing you.

So Holly isn't allowed to do anything in her home, but at work, in her free time, at bookfairs, at vacations? The parents are neither there nor have they a justification to be there.

While Holly is treated as a child, its entirely on Holly to emancipate herself from them. So I wasn't that astonished at her getting home arrest.
They can only control her because she allows it (unless they are physically locking her up). So if she allows them to control her some of the time, why was the vacation not one of those times? Being gone for days at a time feels like it'd trigger some Fundie parents.
 
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They can only control her because she allows it (unless they are physically locking her up). So if she allows them to control her some of the time, why was the vacation not one of those times? Being gone for days at a time feels like it'd trigger some Fundie parents.
Short is answer is we don't know.

Else, a vacation doesn't necessarily implicates sex and drugs. If Holly phrased it carefully and cleverly (which would be very much in her character), the parents are likely sold on that it will be a very safe place. Holly also has no criminal record the parents know of, so they thrust their well-behaved child and won't suspect it would go in as debaucherous ways as she will on some routes.
 

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They can only control her because she allows it (unless they are physically locking her up). So if she allows them to control her some of the time, why was the vacation not one of those times? Being gone for days at a time feels like it'd trigger some Fundie parents.
I get the feeling people are bit confused here. Holly's parents don't have her chained to a radiator 24/7 "because they're fundies". She can leave her house normally, go to book signing trips, visit friends and spend night with Ian if she wishes to. In short, live pretty normal life. She attended the beach trip because perhaps her parents simply trusted her to be mature enough (in their sense of the word) not to do anything stupid while vacationing with friends for a few days.

Her parents only got pissed off and grounded her because --while she was gone-- they discovered birth control in her room and concluded from this she's having pre-marital sex. :whistle:

Who knows, with this cat out of the bag maybe Ian/Holly arc ending will be shotgun wedding...
 
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I get the feeling people are bit confused here. Holly's parents don't have her chained to a radiator 24/7 "because they're fundies". She can leave her house normally, go to book signing trips, visit friends and spend night with Ian if she wishes to. In short, live pretty normal life. She attended the beach trip because perhaps her parents simply trusted her to be mature enough (in their sense of the word) not to do anything stupid while vacationing with friends for a few days.

Her parents only got pissed off and grounded her because they discovered birth control in her room and concluded from this she's having pre-marital sex. :whistle:
I think she was probably lying about the Ian part for any overnights, because if they are going to freak out about BC, a night at the boyfriends is going to be just as bad.

And no, I didn't think they were chaining her up. More discussing where their line of control was, and where it will be now. Work would be a hard one to take away. Book related trips are likely grudgingly tolerated, as were some of the late nights out with Lena/Ivy (though she still had to leave early, like Cinderella). I'm very curious how slutty Holly and Ivy worked around, or through, that issue.

But now on an Ian/Throuple playthrough the jig is up. I don't know what happens on a nerd Holly single playthrough. And slutty Holly didn't come out, but never explained why. So the decision point is upon her, tolerate the control or break her chains.
 

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Minnie is a short nickname for Minerva. Yeah it might not make sense but at least it's better than Robert,Bobby and Dick. Yes those are all the same name.
Richard may be one of the worst. Richard, Rich, Rick, Richie, Ricky, Dick, Dicky.

Robert has Robert, Rob, Robby, Bob, Bobby. William has William, Will, Willy, Bill, Billy, Liam (more Irish). And even then, they were so common they'd get an additional identifier, like Daft Will, or Short Billy, or whatever creative shit their social group decided on.
 

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And no, I didn't think they were chaining her up. More discussing where their line of control was, and where it will be now.
I mean the chaining up in the sense that her parents, despite some people's preconceptions, weren't actually overly strict with Holly before. Hence the whole discussion "how comes they allowed her to go on vacation for a few days" is imo just a self-induced issue that was never an actual issue.

Like, obv. i don't think Holly would outright tell her parents "hey i'm going to spend few days with my boyfriend and we're going to fuck like rabbits while there" because few normal daughters make announcements like that when they go ob vacation with their friends. Even if their parents aren't fundies. But simply telling them that she's going to spend a few days with her friends probably wasn't something that her parents would deem absolutely unacceptable for their adult daughter to partake in.
 
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I mean the chaining up in the sense that her parents, despite some people's preconceptions, weren't actually overly strict with Holly before. Hence the whole discussion "how comes they allowed her to go on vacation for a few days" is imo just a self-induced issue that was never an actual issue.

Like, obv. i don't think Holly would outright tell her parents "hey i'm going to spend few days with my boyfriend and we're going to fuck like rabbits while there" because few normal daughters make announcements like that when they go ob vacation with their friends. Even if their parents aren't fundies. But simply telling them that she's going to spend a few days with her friends probably wasn't something that her parents would deem absolutely unacceptable for their adult daughter to partake in.
Now that the cat's out the bag I wonder if they're going to lock her in a chastity belt. :devilish: That would be funny if it happened. And also fucked up.
 

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Yes, one of these days mister "balm for the soul" will finally take her for the ride to Pound Town and through this Ivy will see the light of righteousness and goodness.
You're something else :ROFLMAO:... And I'm guessing your referring to a Chad Ian. I wasn't aware his sexual prowess offered life changing decisions to that extent ;)..... but tbh I wouldn't be mad at it , if it resulted in Ivy character having more depth. So far Ivy's manipulation hasn't been working in her favor (career wise) but I digress I'm hoping the next update focus on giving her some form of branching either good or bad. Idk if the good path would be similar to Jessica's redemption arc in GGGB but in that scenario... Ashley was dating Jessica.
 

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You're something else :ROFLMAO:... And I'm guessing your referring to a Chad Ian. I wasn't aware his sexual prowess offered life changing decisions to that extent ;)..... but tbh I wouldn't be mad at it , if it resulted in Ivy character having more depth. So far Ivy's manipulation hasn't been working in her favor (career wise) but I digress I'm hoping the next update focus on giving her some form of branching either good or bad. Idk if the good path would be similar to Jessica's redemption arc in GGGB but in that scenario... Ashley was dating Jessica.
Good Jess can also end up with Dave in GGGB. Provided Eva went all-in in degen mode. There are two variants of good Jess dating partners in ORS, too. The non-Seymour path is Ash and Seymour's path is Dave.
 
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People don't know that there is truth and "truth":

- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation with my friends to a beach town. I'll go with Ian, a writer; Perry, the mayor's son; Emma, a sweet girl who helps those in need; Wede, who's going through a rough time right now; and Lena, a great composer.

- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation to the beach with my boyfriend to fuck like rabbits and take drugs, accompanied by the good-for-nothing Perry; Emma, the radical leftist who supplies us with acid; the unemployed Wede; and the onlifans model Lena, with whom I'm hoping to have a threesome.

Technically, both are true, but only one would allow your parents to let you go.
 

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People don't know that there is truth and "truth":

- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation with my friends to a beach town. I'll go with Ian, a writer; Perry, the mayor's son; Emma, a sweet girl who helps those in need; Wede, who's going through a rough time right now; and Lena, a great composer.

- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation to the beach with my boyfriend to fuck like rabbits and take drugs, accompanied by the good-for-nothing Perry; Emma, the radical leftist who supplies us with acid; the unemployed Wede; and the onlifans model Lena, with whom I'm hoping to have a threesome.

Technically, both are true, but only one would allow your parents to let you go.
The whole point is that she is 23 not 15. She shouldn't need her parents permission to do anything. It would be another situation if she were a jobless loser like Perry, but she could be financially independent. She just has to tell her parents that she's an adult and if her parents don't like it, she can leave their home.
 

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People don't know that there is truth and "truth":

- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation with my friends to a beach town. I'll go with Ian, a writer; Perry, the mayor's son; Emma, a sweet girl who helps those in need; Wede, who's going through a rough time right now; and Lena, a great composer.

- Mom, Dad, I'm going on vacation to the beach with my boyfriend to fuck like rabbits and take drugs, accompanied by the good-for-nothing Perry; Emma, the radical leftist who supplies us with acid; the unemployed Wede; and the onlifans model Lena, with whom I'm hoping to have a threesome.

Technically, both are true, but only one would allow your parents to let you go.
If you are 12 and still ask for permission, yes
 
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