VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

It just occurred to me that GGGB did not have the option for the Ashley to tan herself. Do you think Eva will give us the option for Lena or Ian to go for a tan as a customisation? Although it could be a challenge for her to pull it off in this artstyle .

I don't think Eva colours her own work these days, hires someone for that part.
So I don't think that it would be a production issue limiting the implementation of tanning, but keep in mind that every single alteration in the game will need alt art and sprites. We have piercings and tattoos already and with tanning options those tattoos might need recolours of their own to appear right on tanned skin too.

So I don't think we will get tanning as I am assuming we will get other alteration options.

 

[mannice431]

So i'm a little bit iffy about how the scenes are drawn, are they entirely of the artists making or are they images found online that the artists uses as a "base"?

 

[TamaMountain]

So i'm a little bit iffy about how the scenes are drawn, are they entirely of the artists making or are they images found online that the artists uses as a "base"?

Base. She basically draws over real life porn images. It's why some characters have uncanny resemblances to real life pornstars.

 

[lipe2410]

So i'm a little bit iffy about how the scenes are drawn, are they entirely of the artists making or are they images found online that the artists uses as a "base"?

Well, Eva definetly should use references to draw as inspiration, like any artist. But the draws are, as far as i known, 100% original arts made by her

 

[dundun]

It just occurred to me that GGGB did not have the option for the Ashley to tan herself. Do you think Eva will give us the option for Lena or Ian to go for a tan as a customisation? Although it could be a challenge for her to pull it off in this artstyle .

No. All the sprites and every image with Lena would have to be done twice. Tattoos and piercings are often not visible and can be simply overlayed. A new skincolor can't be overlayed, the whole image has to be redone. Coloring is different, lighting is different. Twice the work. It's easy to do with renders because you only have to render the same scene twice but you can't do that with paintings.

 

[slightchance]

No. All the sprites and every image with Lena would have to be done twice. Tattoos and piercings are often not visible and can be simply overlayed. A new skincolor can't be overlayed, the whole image has to be redone. Coloring is different, lighting is different. Twice the work. It's easy to do with renders because you only have to render the same scene twice but you can't do that with paintings.

You don't know what you are talking about. Changing colours of sprites is an easy thing to do. And much easier than adding a bunch of tattoos for different angles.

 

[Jun Sung Ahn]

Android update please

 

[mannice431]

Base. She basically draws over real life porn images. It's why some characters have uncanny resemblances to real life pornstars.

Doesn't that kinda limit what scenarios you can come up with, because of the limited amount of material you can work with? (Although you have plenty of HTML games on this site that maybe prove me wrong...)

 

[BlandChili]

Doesn't that kinda limit what scenarios you can come up with, because of the limited amount of material you can work with? (Although you have plenty of HTML games on this site that maybe prove me wrong...)

She's admitted that it does, at least in some scenarios. She talks about it in her behind the scenes patreon posts about Holly's sex scenes (I can't recall if it comes up for both her Ian and Lena scenes).

 

[mannice431]

She's admitted that it does, at least in some scenarios. She talks about it in her behind the scenes patreon posts about Holly's sex scenes (I can't recall if it comes up for both her Ian and Lena scenes).

If it really starts crimping her style, she should probably find a more versatile artist to work with, there's plenty of people that are capable of supplying her that "need".

 

[BlandChili]

If it really starts crimping her style, she should probably find a more versatile artist to work with, there's plenty of people that are capable of supplying her that "need".

Don't disagree as such, but given the quality of the Holly scenes, all 3 of them, I'd say she's come out of the whole thing with grace.

Of course I'd more agree that one should consider your advice were these difficulties set to repeat. Hopefully Eva has learned a lesson from the Holly content she's made so far that aids her in any future hiccups.
I think her main difficulty with the Holly scenes is that she wanted to properly portray tender sex between her and her two possible lovers, where I think Eva is more used to the more typically "obviously depraved" scenes that dominated GGGB and take better after tracing porn scenes.

 

[mannice431]

I think her main difficulty with the Holly scenes is that she wanted to properly portray tender sex between her and her two possible lovers, where I think Eva is more used to the more typically "obviously depraved" scenes that dominated GGGB and take better after tracing porn scenes.

I second that, it's strange (in a good way) to see the all of the depraved shit that Eva did in GGGB be redirected to writing such an adorably cute lovey-dovey scene with Ian/Lena.

 

[BlandChili]

I second that, it's strange (in a good way) to see the all of the depraved shit that Eva did in GGGB be redirected to writing such an adorably cute lovey-dovey scene with Ian/Lena.

I was talking about Holly/Ian and Holly/Lena, but sure those are good too. I think ORS has really showed what quality looks like overall.

 

[Zedire]

This is maybe a little off-topic, but Alison's eyelashes always kinda bothered me so I decided to tweak her a little bit.

This was just for fun, no harm intended. Alison forever .


View attachment 1408408 .

Your edit looks pretty good, honestly - the nose is really big improvement, for sure, and the subtle lines you added here and there look good too. The only thing that looks a bit off in your edit is how it looks like she has no eyelashes at all, just eyeliner on. I'd add a few lashes on the outer corner of each eye to remedy that. Otherwise, great!

 

[dundun]

You don't know what you are talking about. Changing colours of sprites is an easy thing to do. And much easier than adding a bunch of tattoos for different angles.

Maybe. I know nothing about editing. But still I could recreate one of her tattoo overlays in like 2 minutes.

Spoiler: tattoo

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With Paint3d. Simple with resizing and rotating. Now you might need tilting and 3d-forming for some of these overlays but I am confident a decent editing software gives you ample tools for that. But how would you change 'colors', meaning just the skin-colors in a painting? I have no idea.
And, at the risk of repeating myself, tattoos are rarely visible, skin is always visible.

 

[thedude]

If I'm not mistaken, Ian has a beard variable, which would also be always visible. So, if a beard isn't really an issue, I don't think skin colour would be (but I don't remember seeing a skin variable, though).

 

[Osodrac13]

I'm commenting just to reach page 900 of this forum

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Someone like Holly perhaps?

Well... correction. I prefer innocent and naive for that kink. Though guarded, uptight and prudish work very nicely as well. Holly's sexually inexperienced, but I wouldn't call her naive, prudish or uptight. She's the character I'd most likely gravitate towards IRL for a good relationship, but isn't quite my ideal embodiment for a corruption fantasy.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I agree. This is one of those games where sure, the scenes by themselves are nice to look at, but without the context they're not that special. For instance, the Cindy scene. Does everyone find that scene so hot only because of the art itself? I would wager not. It's the fact we know about Cindy's situation, we know her as a person, and we know how it got to that point of sex. Same can be said for all the other scenes in the game. Though, I would imagine many people don't find Robert's scenes hot with or without context

Yeah. Eva's not the best writer in the world (though she's Shakespeare compared to the average adult-game writer). But she's very good with build-up, making scenes that much more erotic when they happen. One of the reasons I stick around for her content.

 

[dundun]

If I'm not mistaken, Ian has a beard variable, which would also be always visible. So, if a beard isn't really an issue, I don't think skin colour would be (but I don't remember seeing a skin variable, though).

1. A beard could still be done with an overlay, something like a moustache would be easy. A full beard would probably have to be created for every picture
2. it's not always visible
3. a variable doesn't guarantee it will happen

But ok, I don't know anything about editing. But take this example. How would you create an overlay that darkens Lena's skin but not Holly's.

Spoiler: LenaXHolly

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