VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Amahl Farouk]

Release Date: 2021-06-05

Today: 2021-10-20

These past months = FOUR months and 15 days = 19 weeks and 5 days = 137 days, 96 of which was working days
but it still need a week more... oh boy.

Wolfenstein 3D was made from zero point for 6 months, with development of its own engine.
first ever Doom was developed on hardware of 1993 for 12 months.
Doom 2: Hell on Earth was fully ready for 8 months.

and just 1 chapter of these 2D... "game", which is actually a visual novel, which uses a well known, adapted for manga-kids and anime-schoolboys (not professors, you know) ready to use by manuals engine of easiest thing ever, like RenPy, which displaying 2d pictures with text, page by page, need THAT ammount of time on hard hard hard long long long milking development.

i don't mind. really. he can make it as long as other dudes pay for it. just please don't tell that it is becoming so more complex. it uses all the same blocks of code, all the same technics of tracings, all the same all the same. so naturaly, every persone who do anything constantly - should actually become possible to make it better and faster, whatever it is. that's how people do actually grow in professionalism. but if a persone become only slower in that type of activity in which he is working - that is what they call - a degradation. so all that topic of discussion just don't fit to a word development. to be correct and consistent with reality - all that should be called a degradation of a project. than it's fine, when we call a pikestaff a pikestaff, then we got no questions "why" about all these past months. )))

You quite obviously have never actually tried to make a game yourself.
1. Basic Plot
2. Storyboard Development
3. Artwork - image sourcing, tracing, basic coloring, finishing, sorting out multi-layer overlays to display correctly
4. Coding - one word for a massive amount of workload in a multi-path, multi protagonist game
5. Variable tracking, bug testing, and corrections

That's not a complete nor entirely correct list but if you think this stuff is easy to do at the standard Eva works at, by all means, give it a go. People download a game and play it with no idea of all the work that goes into making it, and usually, some of your points wouldn't be far off, but with a project like ORS you simply have no idea of the complexity of it.

Mickey Mouse and Van Gogh's sunflowers were both 2d art, one took minutes to draw and one tore the artist's soul to shreds as he painted it.

 

[Alex25ww]

I wouldn't worry about Eva losing interest in the game or decreasing quality of the updates. The first option is just unimaginable because of the ambitions Eva has for this game that I think are too big for her own good. On technical level, they'll only be better. If you compare Chapter 2 Alpha with Chapter 8 Alpha, then Chapter 8 in the Alpha stage was already proofread and fairly polished, comparable to the state of Chapter 2 Final. If by "piss-poor updates" you mean the content, then this game is structured in such a way, that Eva, even if she wanted to, can't really back down on the content. Each Chapter moves the timeline forward which means plot lines also need to develop at the same time (doesn't mean at the same pace). And because the game has so many different branches and paths, Eva will have to account for all of them in some capacity while writing each update. There's just no way she could release an update with only one or two scenes (like some updates of GGGB were) without having to think about convoluted plot reasons each time the content for a certain romanceable character is not available. You could say that Eva wrote herself into a corner with this one where she HAS TO deliver a big update for each chapter. It's possible that some of the less important routes will be cut short due to sheer amount of them (I struggle testing every path, imagine writing them), but it's impossible to do that for the main characters without causing a massive outrage among patrons.

The only real danger for Eva that you may worry about is the increasing development time. And even that will have its limits. If Eva takes too big breaks, then it will make her writing even harder, because the events won't be fresh on her memory anymore. And I know that both Eva and I are more productive when we take small breaks in-between to recharge, but are still focused on the task at hand. If I have to take a one-month break from something, it's extremely hard to pull myself back into a working mode. The brain gets rusty like that and Eva knows that.

Please share some estimations about the release date.
Thank you!

 

[zeuswargrave]

we got no questions "why"

The reason many do not have that question is because most in the thread already know the answer. I would request you to read past few pages to get a sense of how fast the updates generally are, and why this one was stretched. The developer is fairly active on their Patreon, which regularly get posted here as well.

 

[drakeberg]

Just checking, our old saves will work with chapter 9 right? I was going to do a replay of the game but I won't do it now if I need to start over when 9 comes out.

 

[MaliPizdek]

if Cindy and Ian fuck in ch9 will she allow him to cum in her? i mean he would have if that Dbag and slut haven't interrupted them

 

[TamaMountain]

Just checking, our old saves will work with chapter 9 right? I was going to do a replay of the game but I won't do it now if I need to start over when 9 comes out.

No the old saves will most likely not work with ch 9. It's been like that with every release of ORS.

I suggest you start a new game for ch 9.

 

[LoneVoyage]

No the old saves will most likely not work with ch 9. It's been like that with every release of ORS.

I suggest you start a new game for ch 9.

No it's not. The heck are you talking about.
The only time saves doesn't work when 0.5 version or something. Other than that there is no problem with saves. Unless if you are use the alfa version save.

 

[godoff95]

No it's not. The heck are you talking about.
The only time saves doesn't work when 0.5 version or something. Other than that there is no problem with saves. Unless if you are use the alfa version save.

To be fair, some saves don't work but most do.

 

[Rickster82]

Short question: will this "JD Mod" also work with 0.9 and does it always need a new version of this mod?

 

[Icekatana]

I heard that the number of save slots is getting reduced with this impending chapter. Any advice on what to do to make this transition smooth? I can back them up, of course. Any tips on how to make it straightforward?

 

[patachoucs]

It'd be better to start the game fresh anyway because of the gallery.

The way the code works, it requires you to unlock the scene by playing it. So better to start fresh (plus it'll allow for some cleaner saves too with the change of slots). And you never know when some new lines of dialogues have been changed in the earlier chapters too to fit the narrative better. I find that I am appreciating updates more when I start fresh everytime (even if of course it's starting to take some time with how long the game is already, but that's what skip button is for so there's that too).

 

[maaarco2014]

The thought of Cindy spreading her legs on camera is making me absolutely weak

ehy man who's the girl in your signature?

 

[JoJoPool]

Short question: will this "JD Mod" also work with 0.9 and does it always need a new version of this mod?

It needs to be updated to work with 0.9... And unless you're a patreon you will have to wait for a while (2+ weeks).
However Eva said she is implementing her own gallery in the new version and if it has a cheat to unlock everything we will no longer need that mod.

 

[St0rm1]

Rename them, so you have 9 on each site.

 

[NukaCola]

I heard that the number of save slots is getting reduced with this impending chapter. Any advice on what to do to make this transition smooth? I can back them up, of course. Any tips on how to make it straightforward?

I wonder what leading to this decision? Usually people ask to have more save slots, not the other way around.

 

[godoff95]

I wonder what leading to this decision? Usually people ask to have more save slots, not the other way around.

The 4th column in the save slots will be deleted. But I think there could be an increase in the number of pages in the save slots.

 

[Nifferman]

The 4th column in the save slots will be deleted. But I think there could be an increase in the number of pages in the save slots.

It's only for the android version and u can rename your save to get them back

 

[TamaMountain]

No it's not. The heck are you talking about.
The only time saves doesn't work when 0.5 version or something. Other than that there is no problem with saves. Unless if you are use the alfa version save.

So you're telling you've been using the same save file since v0.5 final for all subsequent final releases? Sure you're not missing out on any sex scenes, or dialogue changes, or even encountered any bugs? You're telling me you've not started a new game since then?

Sound advice mate, real sound. FYI I was merely telling the guy that given the choice between starting a new save now, or starting a new save for when ch 9 drops, it's better to do the latter. Don't need to be an asshole about it .

 

[NukaCola]

So you're telling you've been using the same save file since v0.5 final for all subsequent final releases? Sure you're not missing out on any sex scenes, or dialogue changes, or even encountered any bugs? You're telling me you've not started a new game since then?

Sound advice mate, real sound. FYI I was merely telling the guy that given the choice between starting a new save now, or starting a new save for when ch 9 drops, it's better to do the latter. Don't need to be an asshole about it .

I have been use an old saves file from 0.4 until now with no problem. Unless the dev themself stated that new save is recommended I'm not gonna believe a random paranoia freaks on the internet and wasted time replay from the beginning.

 

[cognu]

Just to clarify, to avoid confussions!

PSA: Chapter 9 has a new save slot UI. The new UI has 3 rows and 4 columns i.s.o. the previous 4x4. This effectively means that you can't access any saves that were on row 4. You might want to move them/rename them before ch9 releases.

The 4th column in the save slots will be deleted. But I think there could be an increase in the number of pages in the save slots.

It's not the 4th column!, it's the 4th row that will be removed!.

Just don't delete the 0.8 version, and see for yourself which saves you have in the 0.9 build.
If your end save is not there, then launch the 0.8 and save in a position that you will be able to see.

And FYI, due to saves:
My saves are OLD, like 0.4 or something like that and never had problems at all (I usually keep one save from final, play through alpha to see the content, and redo when the final is released with the defintive choices for each save, so all my saves essentially comes from a Final version, and that way works perfectly)

The PSA from PilotLara should be in the frontpage tbh.